MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #12

[TheDuchess]

I can't even get the video, hitting refresh like a crack monkey and there is nothing, waaaaah!

I'm so sick of this commercial!!

Really didn't miss anything....no bombshells or anything of the sort.

 

[bwt42]

On MSNBC interview (8-21-2014) with Michael Brady, Lawrence O'Donnell talks about the video that M Brady had taken from his front door. Lawrence O said "we (MSNBC) don't have the video ready to play, but we got the audio of what you said on that video, but it begins (and now Lawrence O is reciting the words M Brady says on his video of the scene):

M Brady says on video: 'He just got shot, he just ran up to the car, he ran up to the car. He was punching on him.' The interview goes on, asked who was punching whom, M Brady says he just "assumed he was punching on him" the MSNBC interview goes on and on for 12 minutes. Not clear who "he" is when he said he was punching.

I want to know where is the actual video Michael Brady gave to MSNBC. They never published it?? I cannot find it anywhere if they did, only this interview where the video runs in the background, but I really wanted to hear M Brady in his own words the day he took that video.
If Lawrence O read correctly the audio of what M Brady said that day from his video, he says "He just got shot. HE JUST RAN UP TO THE CAR, HE RAN UP TO THE CAR."

Here is the link, this video hasn't been on youtube that I could find, I do see the A Cooper interview on there but not this one.

Please look at this and let me know what you think, everybody. Thanks!

If you skip to about 3:00 mark, this is where they begin talking about what exactly Brady was saying as he begins speaking the day of the shooting.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word-...from-new-witness--320758339514#twitter_signin

If my memory is right, in the AC interview, Brady said he saw MB clutching his stomach & taking a couple steps forward. In the MSNBC interview he doesn't mention the couple steps but says OW shoots as he going down to his knees.

 

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Camille Phillips ‏@cmpcamille 1m
Johnson: used beanbags but not rubber bullets. Belmar: we used stingers which have rubber balls but no rubber bullets #Ferguson



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Erica Smith ‏@ericasmith 1m
For at least the third time, MSHP Capt. Ron Johnson says he won't talk about "operational plans." #Ferguson

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Camille Phillips ‏@cmpcamille 1m
Johnson: we're not going to talk about our operational planning. #Ferguson ... No details on when unified command will end.
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[Frydaddy]

Gotta say, you're too much my friend. You could have simply told me to go through your post history to find it or run a search. Many many many thanks for pointing me to the specific posts.

Haha, if I am gonna give you homework, I am not going to have you wasting all that time looking for the homework!

 

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Camille Phillips ‏@cmpcamille 1m
Johnson: we are aware of the event on Saturday and will adjust accordingly. #Ferguson

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Erica Smith ‏@ericasmith 1m
MSHP Capt. Ron Johnson says there was a "balance" of in-state and out-of-state arrests in #Ferguson
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Camille Phillips ‏@cmpcamille 1m
Johnson: going forward this is my community and I will still be around. #Ferguson
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[CHERIE.T]

What event Saturday?

 

[katydid23]

Another question because I may have missed this. Did the witnesses in the car that DJ was hiding behind ever come forward? I would think they had a good view of what happened.

This is purely speculation on my part, but I believe that the closest witnesses, like those in the cars that were stopped by this incident, are the ones that are corroborating OW's version of the story. They would have been watching from the very start. And if they were sitting in their car, right there, and they saw MB suddenly shove the cop into his car and punch him in the face, and then saw the struggle, and heard the shot, they would not have been so shocked and surprised by the officer shooting at MB.

And they have not commented or come forward publicly. I am pretty sure, if they saw OW roll up, grab MB by the neck with no provocation, then yell that he's going to shoot him, as he pulled his gun and aimed at him out the window...and began shooting him as he broke free, these witnesses would have spoken.

And OW would have been sitting in jail already, imo.

 

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STL Public Radio ‏@stlpublicradio 23s
RT @cmpcamille: Belmar: I don't regret our actions when I was in charge. Tear gas is preferable to nightsticks. #Ferguson

 

[Phoebeb]

What about him saying "he ran up to the car"? That sounds like MB was running toward OW's car, like the unidentified witness said in Black Canseco's video. imo Mike Brady said that the moments after the shooting which is lot more believable than an interview days and weeks later.

If my memory is right, in the AC interview, Brady said he saw MB clutching his stomach & taking a couple steps forward. In the MSNBC interview he doesn't mention the couple steps but says OW shoots as he going down to his knees.

 

[nomoresorrow]

On MSNBC interview (8-21-2014) with Michael Brady, Lawrence O'Donnell talks about the video that M Brady had taken from his front door. Lawrence O said "we (MSNBC) don't have the video ready to play, but we got the audio of what you said on that video, but it begins (and now Lawrence O is reciting the words M Brady says on his video of the scene):

M Brady says on video: 'He just got shot, he just ran up to the car, he ran up to the car. He was punching on him.' The interview goes on, asked who was punching whom, M Brady says he just "assumed he was punching on him" the MSNBC interview goes on and on for 12 minutes. Not clear who "he" is when he said he was punching.

I want to know where is the actual video Michael Brady gave to MSNBC. They never published it?? I cannot find it anywhere if they did, only this interview where the video runs in the background, but I really wanted to hear M Brady in his own words the day he took that video.
If Lawrence O read correctly the audio of what M Brady said that day from his video, he says "He just got shot. HE JUST RAN UP TO THE CAR, HE RAN UP TO THE CAR."

Here is the link, this video hasn't been on youtube that I could find, I do see the A Cooper interview on there but not this one.

Please look at this and let me know what you think, everybody. Thanks!

If you skip to about 3:00 mark, this is where they begin talking about what exactly Brady was saying as he begins speaking the day of the shooting.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word-...from-new-witness--320758339514#twitter_signin

Quote from above link^ "After the officer got out of the car and was running down the street, and we know recklessly firing the gun because he hit someone's house with this shooting..." (1) Reckless endangerment

And, contrary to what Darren Wilson supporters think in reference to the significance of the pause when firing his weapon... if it is established that Michael Brown was disabled (no longer a threat) by the first round of bullets and was slumping to the ground as witness claims (top of head shot...) and yet Darren Wilson began a second phase of shooting, I'm very confident Wilson will be charged. And rightly so.

MO ~

 

[Lovejac]

Someone suggested the other day that MAYBE MB was headed towards OW AND bent down to pull his pants up. Look at the pic of him laying in the road....where are his pants?
Below his bum.

I'm glad I wasn't around to hear that suggestion :facepalm:

 

[katydid23]

Lawyers and prosecutors have always said that premeditation can occur in the blink of an eye. A lot less than 2 or 3 seconds. So that is what I believe.

For those who asked if we would feel differently if races were reversed, it is my contention the shooting would never have happened if that was the case

Wasn't there a case posted upthread of a black officer shooting a white kid outside a minimart in Utah, last week?

 

[KEVINinTO]

I just saw this tweet:

Camille Phillips @cmpcamille · 4m
Johnson: five shots fired (none by police) one fatal during time of unified command. #Ferguson

One fatal! Who is this person who was killed? I recall on one of the nights someone was critically injured by gun shots. Why has there been no coverage of this fatality? Aside from the one fatality I wonder how many others were injured by gunshots? I know that a young teen girl was shot in the head (fortunately her injuries were not serious).

 

[Lovejac]

Kind of strange no one has brought in the height of the LE vehicle OW was in as far as the "alteration".

From what I can tell, OW's vehicle was a 2011 Chevy Tahoe SUV. That has a height of + 6'4 from ground to roof, "Standard", who knows if LE is using 20" wheels. Makes the open window line up right about where OW could get a grip on MB's throat really easy, specially if OW reversed right up to them, swung the door open against them, bounced back,......and MB's neck is right there for OW to grab with ease. Also makes it a little bit hard for MB to get "into" the vehicle to go for OW's gun, considering his weight and the height of the bottom of the window.

Still find it unusual that I haven't heard anything about OW's height and weight. Can't imagine he was 5'1 and 100 lbs, specially since he played hockey in High school, and most of those Fergusen LEO's seem to be pretty "well fed" and around the 5'10-6' height.

I suppose these are just "non-issues".:thinking:

I think it's a non issue because Dr. Baden, who did the 2nd autopsy at the request of the Brown family said there were no signs of a struggle on MB body.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Quote from above link^ "After the officer got out of the car and was running down the street, and we know recklessly firing the gun because he hit someone's house with this shooting..." (1) Reckless endangerment

And, contrary to what Darren Wilson supporters think in reference to the significance of the pause when firing his weapon... if it is established that Michael Brown was disabled (no longer a threat) by the first round of bullets and was slumping to the ground as witness claims (top of head shot...) and yet Darren Wilson began a second phase of shooting, I'm very confident Wilson will be charged. And rightly so.

MO ~

If it isn't established that Michael Brown was disabled and Officer Wilson began a second phase of shooting, I'm very confident Wilson WILL NOT be charged and rightly so.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Wasn't there a case posted upthread of a black officer shooting a white kid outside a minimart in Utah, last week?

Yes Katy and that shooting death has been ignored in MSM.

 

[popsicle]

What event Saturday?

There is a lg protest planned.

 

[SStarr33]

Kind of strange no one has brought in the height of the LE vehicle OW was in as far as the "alteration".

From what I can tell, OW's vehicle was a 2011 Chevy Tahoe SUV. That has a height of + 6'4 from ground to roof, "Standard", who knows if LE is using 20" wheels. Makes the open window line up right about where OW could get a grip on MB's throat really easy, specially if OW reversed right up to them, swung the door open against them, bounced back,......and MB's neck is right there for OW to grab with ease. Also makes it a little bit hard for MB to get "into" the vehicle to go for OW's gun, considering his weight and the height of the bottom of the window.

Still find it unusual that I haven't heard anything about OW's height and weight. Can't imagine he was 5'1 and 100 lbs, specially since he played hockey in High school, and most of those Fergusen LEO's seem to be pretty "well fed" and around the 5'10-6' height.

I suppose these are just "non-issues".:thinking:

We discussed it numerous times back at the beginning. He has been described as tall and slim--there are photos/video of him accepting an award that has been posted in the media thread so you can see him.

 

[TheDuchess]

Quote from above link^ "After the officer got out of the car and was running down the street, and we know recklessly firing the gun because he hit someone's house with this shooting..." (1) Reckless endangerment

And, contrary to what Darren Wilson supporters think in reference to the significance of the pause when firing his weapon... if it is established that Michael Brown was disabled (no longer a threat) by the first round of bullets and was slumping to the ground as witness claims (top of head shot...) and yet Darren Wilson began a second phase of shooting, I'm very confident Wilson will be charged. And rightly so.

MO ~

Did you happen to see my post above about how unlikely it would be for OW to be charged, let alone convicted? Now, I really don't know what will happen and I don't really know what all of the evidence is. But just by looking at "the odds" they are very, very slim that this is going to happen. Now...it might actually happen based upon the tremendous amount of pressure being placed on the GJ at this time and so we may end up in a trial. But I think that standard of proof to say that OW is guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt? When you have a suspect that just committed an armed robbery 15 minutes prior, the officer has been injured and the star witness is a known liar?? It is just not going to happen. Not in this country. No matter how many marches take place. No matter how many talking heads get on the tv. No matter how badly the community wants it.

A jury will be selected of OW's peers. So that doesn't mean 12 people who are "seeking justice for Michael Brown." This will be a cross section of the community. And then a prosecutor will need to convince all 12 of these people beyond a reasonable doubt that a decorated officer, with a perfectly clean record just so happened to come upon a suspect who has just committed an armed robbery 15 minutes prior, been beaten by that suspect and just decided to become a cold blooded murderer??? I know you want it. I know a lot of people want it. But...IT IS JUST NOT GOINNG TO HAPPEN.