MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #17

[Lovejac]

The city council meetings have been announced in the newspapers routinely. Anyone can sign up for 2 minutes to speak. Most of them were complaining about things not having to do with MB. So there was nothing stopping any of them from speaking before the council earlier.

But, but, but those meetings weren't being live streamed and tweeted about

 

[Trident]

But, but, but those meetings weren't being live streamed and tweeted about

I'm just sorry last night's meeting wasn't broadcast on all the MSM so the entire nation and the world could see what is really going on.

 

[reedus23]

http://www.stlamerican.com/news/local_news/article_e5286198-3901-11e4-bc34-001a4bcf887a.html

St. Louis American is another St. Louis paper that is mainly circulated downtown and in north county. Seems to me to be a positive development, as long as the people of Ferguson (and even the other cities of north county) follow through with it. Essentially, some civic leaders trying to educate the citizenship, empower them to vote and to even groom new leaders to run for offices. Seems to be a pretty level headed approach, even saying that calls to recall the mayor may be premature.

 

[reedus23]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...4-8d03-4f347d1e2339.html#.VBB6-XTKaFk.twitter

Lacy Clay weighs in.

Clay went on to say he has "little confidence in" the local investigation into the shooting.

 

[LambChop]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...4-8d03-4f347d1e2339.html#.VBB6-XTKaFk.twitter

Lacy Clay weighs in.

But the FBI and DOJ are right in the middle of this investigation. They would get everything, I mean, everything.

 

[Klood-N]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...4-8d03-4f347d1e2339.html#.VBB6-XTKaFk.twitter

Lacy Clay weighs in.

A little background on Lacy:

Clay made headlines in early 2007 when, as a member of the Congressional Black Caucus (co-founded by his father), he objected to the possible inclusion of U.S. Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee, a Caucasian who represents the majority-African American district in Memphis and had made a campaign promise to attempt to become the first white member of the CBC. Although it is not part of the CBC's bylaws that members must be black, all members so far have been black.[5] Clay told Cohen "that he could not collaborate with the Congressional Black Caucus for the benefit of his black constituents 'until your skin turns black.'
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lacy_Clay,_Jr.

 

[Phoebeb]

Are there any live links to today's meeting?

 

[reedus23]

But the FBI and DOJ are right in the middle of this investigation. They would get everything, I mean, everything.

I don't think he was referencing the FBI's and DOJ's investigation. I took local to mean the County PD's investigation only.

 

[reedus23]

A little background on Lacy:

Clay made headlines in early 2007 when, as a member of the Congressional Black Caucus (co-founded by his father), he objected to the possible inclusion of U.S. Representative Steve Cohen of Tennessee, a Caucasian who represents the majority-African American district in Memphis and had made a campaign promise to attempt to become the first white member of the CBC. Although it is not part of the CBC's bylaws that members must be black, all members so far have been black.[5] Clay told Cohen "that he could not collaborate with the Congressional Black Caucus for the benefit of his black constituents 'until your skin turns black.'
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lacy_Clay,_Jr.

Clay certainly has his issues. JMO of course.

 

[Lovejac]

we're talking about voting b/c the discussion evolved?

I don't get the argument that it's restricting or unfair. What is so difficult about obtaining a photo ID? What happened when Texans received information about the new regulation(s)? Did they all figure it didn't apply to them?

They could just add a photo to their 'victim card'

Problem solved

 

[popsicle]

Retweeted by Craig Cheatham
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Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench 13m
Ald. Sharon Tyus: To the ppl who say "well, black ppl are killing black ppl": the community does not condone that. We are ones calling 911.
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[LambChop]

I don't think he was referencing the FBI's and DOJ's investigation. I took local to mean the County PD's investigation only.

But that would require the FBI and DOJ to verify the PD's investigation in order to conduct their own investigation. The PD's investigation would have been gone through with a fine tooth comb, no doubt about it. If there was corruption regarding this investigation the FBI would have uncovered it.

 

[Lovejac]

It can be. Many retired people DO travel out of the country. I had to stand in that line for a passport, but, once again I did it. It's amazing what people can do when they want something bad enough.

Kudos to you for not making excuses :loveyou:

 

[Klood-N]

Retweeted by Craig Cheatham
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Antonio French ‏@AntonioFrench 13m
Ald. Sharon Tyus: To the ppl who say "well, black ppl are killing black ppl": the community does not condone that. We are ones calling 911.
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You mean they're calling the police?! The same ones accused of being the KKK underground last night?

 

[popsicle]

Rachel Lippmann ‏@rlippmann 17m
Tyus vs. @ChiefSLMPD. Here we go.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 15m

Tyus - we question police shootings because it's a state-sanctioned killing.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 15m

An aunt of Michael Brown is a tenant of Tyus.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 14m

Tyus - I'm seeing a rush to kill.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 13m

.@ChiefSLMPD - police should be able to go home if they do their job legally, morally and ethically.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 12m

Tyus - I wanted to hear you say that citizens should have the right to go home, too.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 10m

Tyus to @ChiefSLMPD - I'm hearing an arrogance from you that everything is all right.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 7m

Tyus - should we have a special prosecutor for police cases? @ChiefSLMPD says they have talked about something like that.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 5m

Tyus asks how many excessive use of force cases have gone to IAD. Dotson says he'll get her that data.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 5m

Excessive use of force doesn't mean it was necessarily deadly. Just that it was inappropriate for the situation.


Rachel Lippmann @rlippmann · 26s

There are two parallel invest for deadly force. One from the Force Invest Unit goes to CAO. IAD is into policy, goes to @ChiefSLMPD.

 

[Klood-N]

One speaker promised more demonstrations if he didn’t see officer Darren Wilson face charges for the shooting death of Michael Brown.

“You all might as well bring back the army because there’s going to be chaos in the street again,” said the young man.
http://fox2now.com/2014/09/09/hundr...council-meeting-since-michael-brown-shooting/

There it is!

 

[Klood-N]

Wait, wasn't one of the initial demands that they withdraw the "Army"?

 

[popsicle]

Rachel Lippmann ‏@rlippmann 4m
There are two parallel invest for deadly force. One from the Force Invest Unit goes to CAO. IAD is into policy, goes to @ChiefSLMPD.


Rachel Lippmann ‏@rlippmann 1m
Kennedy - I'm trying to understand how race may play into use of force. How does that alter how officers perceive a threat?


Rachel Lippmann ‏@rlippmann 9s
Kennedy - it may be RIGHT, that is w/in guidelines, but not how a situation would have been handled if it was a white person.

 

[Sonya610]

Tyus asks how many excessive use of force cases have gone to IAD. Dotson says he'll get her that data.

Apparently not ENOUGH force has been used imo.

 

[reedus23]

But that would require the FBI and DOJ to verify the PD's investigation in order to conduct their own investigation. The PD's investigation would have been gone through with a fine tooth comb, no doubt about it. If there was corruption regarding this investigation the FBI would have uncovered it.

I won't argue that. To be honest, while that article was from today, I almost had the feeling those remarks were made early on. No idea because the article doesn't reference when they were made.