MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #2

[MyBelle]

Yeah, how'd that work out? Let's just instate a full police state/lockdown and every civilian be damned. Good solution. Or, maybe the police could do what they're doing tonight and show restraint. Despite the fear mongers (http://new.livestream.com/timcast/events/3295551) who are waiting breathlessly for a riot, it seems the police who have tried to practice solidarity instead of repression have managed to keep the peace!

I'm not there looting and torching. Those are crimes. I'm pretty sure when officials have locked down neighborhoods, schools, businesses during the commission of a crime in order to PROTECT citizens, those citizens have complied and been pretty appreciative of those who are trying to protect them. After Kent State, my college told students that any protests, sit-ins on campus would result in dismissal from the school. As I stated earlier, in America there are consequences for actions.

JMO

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Threatening media at "the link" trying to make them pay. Threatened to hit them with bottle.

If they aren't doing anything bad, why would they care if they are being recorded? Just my thoughts.

 

[SwampMama]

According to Twitter, that video was from June, and the police changed the dates to make MB look poorly (as if a two month difference in dates of the crime, would matter).

I promise this is the last idiocy nugget from Twitter I'll share. I couldn't keep it to myself.

Thanks for sharing. There is so much going on and so much idiocy to keep up with and so many justifications, denials and such that I enjoy being able to privy to what others here have found to be ludicrous. Rather amusing that someone feels that if this had been videod 2 month ago that it would have no relevance. Ridiculous! How would that even help the situation if it was from 2 months ago??? And so the conspiracy/coverup story begins.

 

[MyBelle]

I remember Kent State. I am from Cleveland, OH. A sad day.

The Ferguson Chief of Police CLEARLY stated in a news conference today, " the officer was not aware of the robbery incident"..."the subject was engaged (stopped)for walking in the street"...jaywalking. Besides, even if the officer was aware of the incident, he shot ( numerous times) an unarmed individual. This is not a cause and effect situation...the cop just lost all restraint.

I guess you missed the part about the suspect going for the officer's gun and assaulting him in the face.

 

[katydid23]

I was just watching some LIVE FEED from CNN. I have to APPLAUD some of the local citizens. Many of them have taken it upon themselves to guard the looted stores and defend them from the criminals. WELL DONE ~~~I hope there is no more violence and it works out.

I also think they will learn how it feels to be in law enforcement. It must be kind of scary trying to make the looters back down. I think they might become more compassionate towards first responders by taking their places tonight. ~~~~~just so hoping anyway

 

[Muffet]

I was afraid tonight's events would turn out bad when I saw this man and others interviewed today.

You can see it in the bottom video (under the surveillance video) at the 1 minute mark.

He was saying that the release of the surveillance video was reopening wounds and.. Well, you all can see... I'm on my phone in bed, and hubby won't let me do a transcript.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/08/15/watch-surveillance-video-strong-arm-robbery-tied-michael-brown

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[IndDia]

What they are choosing to believe is that a white police officer without probable cause stopped two angelic teenagers for no other reason than because they were black, he then slaughtered one for no reason other than he was black. Now everybody knows that didn't happen. The gig is up, thus the violence.

The escalating violence is going to result in deadly force, imo. It's pretty obvious that the Governor's solution to place a black officer in charge wasn't the solution because these folks looting and torching businesses aren't all black, imo. I think the aldermen have figured out the common denominator isn't race, it's that they are criminals.

JMO

It has been established WITHOUT A DOUBT that Michael Brown was NOT stopped for "probable cause" in a robbery. It has been stated unequivocally that Michael Brown was not known to the officer who stopped him and it was NOT based on any suspicion of him being a SUSPECT!!! Please people, READ the FACTS of the case before commenting! http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

 

[MyBelle]

I was just watching some LIVE FEED from CNN. I have to APPLAUD some of the local citizens. Many of them have taken it upon themselves to guard the looted stores and defend them from the criminals. WELL DONE ~~~I hope there is no more violence and it works out.

I also think they will learn how it feels to be in law enforcement. It must be kind of scary trying to make the looters back down. I think they might become more compassionate towards first responders by taking their places tonight. ~~~~~just so hoping anyway

Bravo! They must feel an incredible sense of betrayal by those who have spent days insisting this was something other than what it really is. A similar reaction is what often what happens when young inmates land in prison. It represents structure very often for the first time in their lives.

Of course, this is all my opinion. No links.

 

[MyBelle]

It has been established WITHOUT A DOUBT that Michael Brown was NOT stopped for "probable cause" in a robbery. It has been stated unequivocally that Michael Brown was not known to the officer who stopped him and it was NOT based on any suspicion of him being a SUSPECT!!! Please people, READ the FACTS of the case before commenting! http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

Brown was walking in the street. That's probable cause to be told by a police officer to move to a sidewalk. I have read the facts.

 

[IndDia]

I guess you missed the part about the suspect going for the officer's gun and assaulting him in the face.

Source, please.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

Missouri must not have same laws as South Carolina pertaining to foul language. I am hearing a lot of protestors use the F work on the live media link http://livestream.com http://livestre.am/4VB4Y

From twitter earlier today: Houston News ‏@abc13houston
SC mom arrested, accused of using f-word in front of her kids while shopping for groceries http://abc13.co/1m32wOU #abc13

 

[SwampMama]

It has been established WITHOUT A DOUBT that Michael Brown was NOT stopped for "probable cause" in a robbery. It has been stated unequivocally that Michael Brown was not known to the officer who stopped him and it was NOT based on any suspicion of him being a SUSPECT!!! Please people, READ the FACTS of the case before commenting! http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

It has been established that they were in the wrong. They were in the road, were told to get out of the road and did not. The cop was leaving and something happened to cause him to turn back. It has been established that MB was exhibiting some very brazen, aggressive and provocative behavior just before encountering the cop.

So what if the cops did not know that MB had just robbed the market - MB KNEW he had just robbed the market and HIS behavior was very likely a result of that because he didn't know that the cop was unaware. MB was likely afraid that he was going to be apprehended for his crime (with evidence clearly in hand) and so HE reacted aggressively against the officer. No doubt the officer could sense that something was amiss in the attitude and actions of MB and his friend.

 

[SwampMama]

Source, please.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...el-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/

Michael Brown, 18, was unarmed, St. Louis County Police Chief Joe Belmar says in a news conference. Belmar says Brown physically assaulted the officer, and during a struggle between the two, Brown reached for the officer's gun. One shot was fired in the car followed by other gunshots outside of the car.

 

[katydid23]

It has been established WITHOUT A DOUBT that Michael Brown was NOT stopped for "probable cause" in a robbery. It has been stated unequivocally that Michael Brown was not known to the officer who stopped him and it was NOT based on any suspicion of him being a SUSPECT!!! Please people, READ the FACTS of the case before commenting! http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

Well, it is probably not going to make a big difference, but you might want to check your facts again as well. :wave:

It has been posted here a few times already, the sequence of events. When the cop FIRST made contact, and asked them to get out of the road, he did not know they were the robbery suspects. HOWEVER, midway through hid interaction, he saw the cigars and the clothing fit the suspects description.

the 'probable cause' was initially for blocking traffic. Then within minutes it changed to robbery suspects.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

And since he didn't he was shot multiple times??? I'll be sure to let my 3 yr old know that if he rides his bike in our cul-de-sac and doesn't move he's eligible for capital punishment.

Hopefully your 3 year old has adult supervision while riding his bike on a public street.

 

[katydid23]

And since he didn't he was shot multiple times??? I'll be sure to let my 3 yr old know that if he rides his bike in our cul-de-sac and doesn't move he's eligible for capital punishment.

No need to tell your son anything about riding in a cul-de-sac. But as he grows, you might warn him against trying to grab a gun from a cop's holster. THAT is a big NO NO. :cop:

 

[MyBelle]

Source, please.

See upthread. It has been linked multiple times.

 

[AuburnTxTiger]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...el-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/

Michael Brown, 18, was unarmed, St. Louis County Police Chief Joe Belmar says in a news conference. Belmar says Brown physically assaulted the officer, and during a struggle between the two, Brown reached for the officer's gun. One shot was fired in the car followed by other gunshots outside of the car.

Thanks for finding this link. It was posted several times earlier on this thread. Unfortunately, some only read and retain what is convenient for their personal agendas. All of us have the right to our own opinions. Some opinions are harder for me to understand than others.<mod snip>

 

[SwampMama]

And since he didn't he was shot multiple times??? I'll be sure to let my 3 yr old know that if he rides his bike in our cul-de-sac and doesn't move he's eligible for capital punishment.

As long as your child does not reach into an officers vehicle, assault them and struggle with them over their gun, causing the gun to go off in the car, then you shouldn't worry. Plus I doubt you 3 year old is 6 ft 4 and 300 lbs. And hopefully you have taught your child not to walk up the middle of the street and disobey cops when they tell you to get out of the road.

 

[MyBelle]

If your 3-year-old is injured while riding his bike on a public street, you'll be held responsible. That's the way the law works. I don't know anybody who would allow a 3-year-old to play in the street. Period.