MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #24

[LambChop]

I haven't found anything else. Last thing I've seen was from Umar on Twitter. He's so important now that he's been arrested for the cause. Oh yeah, the last was a picture of him lying handcuffed like a slug.

I believe that once a protestor is arrested they can no longer participate in protesting until they go before a judge. So if all the leaders/organizers have been arrested that may be why there was not much going on last night. I would say the threats to the families of the police officers are being taken seriously by LE and that would be some serious prison time those in charge of the protests that did not try to stop it. jmo

 

[Klood-N]

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...e-bf9c-5678dcd8d326.html#.VCbD-FTGCt0.twitter

Ferguson police chief sees self, department as misunderstood

He retired from the county police in 2010, after 31 years, and considered becoming a corporate pilot or attending an offshore medical school. Then, he heard Ferguson was looking for a new chief. He got the job that March.

He started a log of complaints against officers, with an average of 15 annually for the past three years. Wilson’s name was never among them, he said.

He also focused on apartment complexes, including Canfield Green Apartments, where Brown was killed, because they generated the most calls for service.

Jackson said he pressured apartment managers to boost safety with cameras, entry cards and restricted parking. He pushed for eviction of troublemakers or revocation of their occupancy permits. Then came Aug. 9.

Great article! He seems so likeable. Two things jumped out at me: cameras at apartment complexes. I think I'd seen it reported somewhere that there wasn't footage of the shooting, but haven't been able to find that again. I hope they do have some. Second, that he's been working to remove troublemakers. Seems likely then that some of the rioters may hold personal grudges against Jackson. Could his efforts in conjunction with apartment managers to clean things up be why mom & Louis moved away, why Dorian was evicted, or why it's so hard to pin down where Michael lived? I respect and admire Jackson and pray he and his officers remain safe. There's an evil element in all this chaos that seems to hate it when more ugly truth is exposed.

 

[Klood-N]

I wasn't aware of this:



http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...e-bf9c-5678dcd8d326.html#.VCbD-FTGCt0.twitter

Oh, yeah. That's been reported before. I'll find more and post it later today. There was actually a meeting set up to discuss the robbery and video with the family before that information was released, but agitators blocked it, iirc.

 

[Klood-N]

@antoniofrench
If Chief Jackson is sticking with his story that media Sunshine requests compelled him to release the video, then produce the requests.
https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench/status/515864139403517952

Ugh! They have! Wish I was on twitter. I'd send him this. These agitators are too invested in their personal gains from the narrative to actually fact-find!

Ferguson City Attorney Stephanie Karr makes Statement on FOI Requests

Ferguson, Missouri – September 5th, 2014 - Within days of the tragic events on August 9, the City of Ferguson began receiving multiple requests for information and documents. While some of these requests were made in writing, many requests were made verbally due to the fact that the City’s website and email were down at several points during that week. City personnel cataloged all requests and treated them in the same manner as it would any Sunshine Law request. (The “Sunshine Law” is Missouri’s equivalent of the federal Freedom of Information Act).
Several reporters, news organizations and others asked for documents specifically pertaining to Michael Brown. One such request was made by the St. Louis Post Dispatch. On August 12, 2014, the paper requested “all documentation concerning the events leading up to and including the shooting of Michael Brown” which shall include “incident, arrest and investigative reports, 911 audio, photos and video retained by the police department.” Another request, made on August 14, 2014, by Judicial Watch requested all records relating to Michael Brown and dated between August 1, 2013, and August 9, 2014.
The Sunshine Law dictates that Governmental entities must respond to both general requests and specific requests and release all documents that are responsive to the those requests, unless those documents are otherwise closed.
The Ferguson police department retained the incident and investigative report of the store robbery which occurred less than 10 minutes before the shooting. The reports, which included the surveillance video, concerned Michael Brown. Under the Sunshine Law, the police department had no reason to close these records and withhold them from the public.
By the date of August 15, the City having reached its statutory deadline to respond to the information requests, released the store robbery reports, including the surveillance video.
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http://www.devinjamesgroup.com/ferg...ephanie-karr-makes-statement-on-foi-requests/


Update 9/15/14: Mayor Knowles specifically mentioned that days before the August 15 tape release, reporters from KTVI FOX 2 asked him about the existence of surveillance footage of Brown Jr. shoplifting. Daily RFT just heard back from anchor Mandy Murphey via email who said she is the one who asked: "I asked him about the robbery video because I had learned about it several days before it was released. I asked him the question and he gave me no information about it. He said he didn't know anything about it at the time. I put in a formal sunshine request for the documented information leading up to the shooting."
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/da...vent_met_with_the_family_of_michael_brown.php

 

[Klood-N]

A meeting between the parents of Brown and Chief Jackson was indeed scheduled for August 14, arranged by members of the St. Louis chapter of the NAACP. Chapter president Adolphus Pruitt acknowledged that he was the go-between, but he first organized a kind of pre-meeting with Jackson, several members of the NAACP and members of the U.S. Justice Department's Community Relations Services. The family was not present. It was at that meeting that Jackson revealed he was preparing to release a surveillance tape of Mike shoplifting at a local convenience store the same day as the shooting.

"We met with [Jackson] and in that meeting he told us emphatically that he had so much pressure on him from media wanting access to that tape that if we could assist him in any way to not do that, he would appreciate it," Pruitt told Daily RFT.

Pruitt said that after learning of the existence and potential release of the surveillance video, they decided to scuttle the meeting between Jackson and the parents.

"It would not have been a good thing for him to sit up in front of the family talking about reconciliation and he just dropped that bombshell trying to damage the guy's reputation," said Pruitt. "We decided that was probably not a good thing to do."

Daily RFT then circled back to Mayor Knowles who confirmed Pruitt's account of the meeting between Jackson and the NAACP. Knowles said the original plan had been for he and Jackson to sit down with the family and explain about the existence of the surveillance tape.

"The meeting was supposed to go down the day or two day before the release of the tape to let the family know what the situation was, what the request was and what we would have to do, so they could see and understand from our perspective what we're trying to do and not trying to do, which is defame them," said Knowles. "The hope was to meet before so they understood the sincerity that we didn't want to offend them, we didn't want to upset them, we wanted them to be able to see that."
http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/da...vent_met_with_the_family_of_michael_brown.php

(For the record, it was strong arm robbery, per police reports and video. Not shoplifting.)

 

[Klood-N]

So, IMO the outrage from the family and its representatives was not because they were unaware of the information; it was because they didn't want the public to know about it.

 

[katydid23]

So, IMO the outrage from the family and its representatives was not because they were unaware of the information; it was because they didn't want the public to know about it.

It made them look dishonest because they had just set out the story that he was a 'brand new college student walking home to his Grandmother's house.' The robbery video cuts deeply into that false narrative.

 

[Klood-N]

I'm so thankful for a quieter night for residents, businesses, and LE. The proactive approach seemed to work. There were some whispers around twitter about if they got locked up Friday night, they'd be stuck until at least Monday, so they might've laid low last night because they have protest plans for the weekend, but it'd be great if instead they just realized there are consequences to breaking the law.

 

[Klood-N]

You have ppl saying they're sleeping less than 3hrs a day and popping adderall to get through this. These folks need back ups #Ferguson
https://twitter.com/akachar---wade/status/515880483201490944


Resources need to be in place BEFORE mayhem ensues. We do not need another reactionary relief situation. We may not have the time to wait.
https://twitter.com/akachar---wade/status/515886842970116096

 

[bettybaby00]

I believe that once a protestor is arrested they can no longer participate in protesting until they go before a judge. So if all the leaders/organizers have been arrested that may be why there was not much going on last night. I would say the threats to the families of the police officers are being taken seriously by LE and that would be some serious prison time those in charge of the protests that did not try to stop it. jmo

I did not know this. If true it shows LE aren't as inept as many seem to believe.

There is a method behind the madness!

 

[Klood-N]

We are in #ferguson and we talmbout occupying Faraci’s. That’s the business of dude who pulled the gun on the protestors.
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515886998800699392

It opens at 4pm

We’ll definitely need jail support. A couple of ppl who have a C&C license will be nice too. #ferguson
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515888244731289601

 

[zoomom]

Re: taking down the Tent City - my hubby works for the govt. entity in our town that has had to do just that, multiple times. There were HUGE Homeless encampments. There is always lot's of drama, and the Agency video tapes every single second of what they are doing as proof against future potential lawsuits. There is usually PD involved, and Social Service workers on site, as well as EMT's. They have to give plenty of warnings (verbal and written) weeks and days and hours in advance. They don't just toss everything in a dumpster or cart it off, or let anything get ruined for that matter. It all gets bagged up, recorded, collected and stored indoors somewhere. The Local govt. has to store it for 60? (90?) days until the rightful owners come and collect their stuff and sign for it.

Nobody's $200 tents got junked. (Just in case THAT myth decides to surface.)

ETA- I'm in CA, but the first couple of times this took place there WERE civil lawsuits, and the City was found in the wrong. The Courts laid out the rules of when and how this all needed to be done properly. I'm fairly certain the rest of the country took notes in order to avoid their own lawsuits. At least I hope so.

 

[popsicle]

Charles Wade ‏@akacharleswade 1m
We need to prepare also for those who may not be happy about an indictment @ShaunKing. You know what I mean...

 

[popsicle]

We are in #ferguson and we talmbout occupying Faraci’s. That’s the business of dude who pulled the gun on the protestors.
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515886998800699392

It opens at 4pm

We’ll definitely need jail support. A couple of ppl who have a C&C license will be nice too. #ferguson
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515888244731289601

I don't even know what to say here.

 

[katydid23]

We are in #ferguson and we talmbout occupying Faraci’s. That’s the business of dude who pulled the gun on the protestors.
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515886998800699392

It opens at 4pm

We’ll definitely need jail support. A couple of ppl who have a C&C license will be nice too. #ferguson
https://twitter.com/WyzeChef/status/515888244731289601

This is not good. I hope the owner of this Pizzarria gets a heads up on this threat/

 

[popsicle]

This is not good. I hope the owner of this Pizzarria gets a heads up on this threat/

Give a heads up to LE maybe.

 

[Klood-N]

31 min ago

Every body is needed at Ferguson PD asap they done f--- up agian we need people and powerful pepole
https://twitter.com/therealjosh95/status/515886311102640128

the pork chops doing stole all our signs in stuff

 

[popsicle]

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Dr. Cornel Fresh ‏@WyzeChef 13m
We are going to protest at the license office in the meantime. That’s actually were Mayor Knowles works full-time.



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I’m being told that the police are about to make us move off of this lot. #ferguson

 

[Klood-N]

My apologies. Faraci's opens at 4 today. Protestors needed at 4 not immediately. #Ferguson
https://twitter.com/msugrl33/status/515891657854550016

Occupying a restaurant reminded me that Holder participated in an occupation of a building. Is that the inspiration?

That'd definitely bring clear danger if they do it. Breaking/entering, brandishing, kidnapping if they hold people there, trespass, and worse. Hoping this is a misdirect. One protestor mentioned that she thought the "large crowd wasn't needed til later".

 

[zoomom]

Sorry protesters. If it is Private Property the owner can throw you off immediately and call for PD assistance to do it. You will be cited for Trespassing. Yes you will only get a citation - but you will then be in the system. If you don't pay your fine or show up on your court date - well now you will have a warrant issued for 'Failure to Appear'. And the snowball will just keep rolling.....

Judges tend to get a little cranky when they keep seeing the same faces showing up in their courtroom, and they haven't got the message.