MO - Grief & protests follow shooting of teen Michael Brown #24

[LambChop]

Obviously the DOJ has made it's presence known.

 

[Klood-N]

To be fair, they were not dangerous. The protestors were just not properly prepared for what happened when the Chief decided to walk out with them. He took a long time in discussions with someone in the group before he decided to move out into the street among them. Frankly that takes a lot of guts. It sounds as if some of the protestors got a little too close to the officers and began pushing, which was unnecessary. They had the whole street to spread out in.

The problem is that the protestors may put themselves in danger because not all citizens feel as safe as the Chief did last night and may use force against them if they feel threatened. But as far as being dangerous no, threatening yes, guilty as charged. No one I saw last night appeared to present a clear and present danger. Biggest problem I saw were their darn cameras and them tripping over themselves trying to get pictures. jmo

I disagree, and I think that'll be borne out by the charges against those arrested. IMO, Jackson should not have moved into the mob threatening violence against him and his officers. And, before he did so, he should have discussed that decision with those there to protect him and how it'd be accomplished. His previous decision looked like courage to me. Last night looked like dangerously poor decision making. Pushing an officer isn't just unnecessary; it's a crime.

 

[Trident]

Obviously the DOJ has made it's presence known.

Quite obviously. After all Holder, the AG told us all he is also a black man. How much more "presence" do we need.

Do you mean the guy in whatever garb that was observing last night? I image he was there to watch LE, making sure the civil rights of the thugs were well protected.

If I'm misinterpreting your post, I apologize. Just delete, LOL

 

[popsicle]

KMOX St. Louis News ‏@kmoxnews 6m
U.S. Sen. Roy Blunt is planning to meet with law enforcement officers across Missouri in wake of #Ferguson http://cbsloc.al/1rooRLl

 

[Klood-N]

I don't know what to say. I must not have been clear enough in my post, but I don't know how to be any clearer. I wasn't only referring to your post, nor just to today/last night.

OK, one more try:

Does anyone not recognize that Chief Jackson is being directed, advised, jerked around, HANDLED by very powerful people - people who don't give two chits about him or Wilson, and object to the way he handled things that first week?

Judging his abilities or decisions made under those circumstances... I don't see the logic.

I think Holder and a lot of other people would love nothing more than for us to turn on the chief and Wilson.

The only decisions this man has made on his own that we know of have been good ones, imo, so I will support and defend him until I see him making a stupid choice not under their pressure.

He defends his men. Hug a was NOT his idea.


Anyway.

For anyone who missed his interview Deb posted last night, I recommend it. There's a lot to analyze.

I've got to go. :waves:

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Your response jumped to hyperbole and assumptions vs what my post said. The disclaimer was added later. It's illogical to think admitting a person made a mistake equates to turning on them. I've pointed out both his courage and stand for truth and those manipulating and pressuring him, LE, Nixon, and this narrative.

Do you believe he was ordered to march with the rioters last night?

 

[Klood-N]

Wow! Heard that someone's car was firebombed behind the Ferguson Police Dept last night

Don't worry. They're not dangerous. :eyeroll:

 

[DebinGA]

KMOX St. Louis News ‏@kmoxnews 6m
U.S. Sen. Roy Blunt is planning to meet with law enforcement officers across Missouri in wake of #Ferguson http://cbsloc.al/1rooRLl

"Blunt is co-chairman of the Senate Law Enforcement Caucus. His office says the tour also will touch on other law enforcement needs and issues besides those related to Ferguson"

 

[CHERIE.T]

We started off the night by putting up some reading material 4 the cops especially the Chief #Ferguson pic.twitter.com/SBVn2MU23e

After about 10 minutes some #police came & forcefully ripped them down agitating the crowd that's when we started chanting #Ferguson
https://mobile.twitter.com/bassem_masri

Protestors are referring to those arrested as "hostages". This appears to be a war to many of them.

When will order return to Ferguson?
The protesters are running the city. smh

 

[LambChop]

Don't worry. They're not dangerous. :eyeroll:

Okay, I was talking about those in front of the police station that did not have their faces covered because obviously they were not worried about being filmed. It is the criminals that take advantage of situations like last night to knock those protestors back a notch. I do not agree with some of the threats they made because it gives someone who has criminal tendencies a reason to act out because they think they are being part of the "movement". jmo

 

[Klood-N]

http://www.hashtagferguson.org/

#fergusonfridays

 

[Klood-N]

Okay, I was talking about those in front of the police station that did not have their faces covered because obviously they were not worried about being filmed. It is the criminals that take advantage of situations like last night to knock those protestors back a notch. I do not agree with some of the threats they made because it gives someone who has criminal tendencies a reason to act out because they think they are being part of the "movement". jmo

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on that. IMO, at this point, the protests/riots/movement overall appear dangerous and united in hate and a desire for Wilson's and others' deaths. Anyone else ever seen a candlelight vigil quite like that?

 

[DebinGA]

A great man died this week: http://www.postandcourier.com/artic...leston-police-chief-reuben-greenberg-has-died

Chief Reuben Greenberg, black and jewish, was one of a kind, and the link above doesn't mention one of my Greenberg favs. The tattered remnants of the KKK came to Charleston to march and the outcry was immediate. Greenberg met with the Grand Poobah and said he'd not only make sure the marchers would be safe, he'd march with them to make sure. Down the street they went with hoards of angry anti-KKKers, many young and black, trailing them on both sides all the way.

The article did include Greenberg's famous/infamous order to whack, but don't arrest, Hurricane Hugo looters, because the jail couldn't hold them all. Reuben Greenberg was a beloved figure to the day he died, and it wouldn't surprise me if Chief Jackson and others followed his incredibly successful LE career closely.

 

[Klood-N]

#Ferguson protestors telling #N4TM police caused overnight unrest that led to arrests @LauraKHettiger @KMOV 6:00 pic.twitter.com/cCVLxDgXon
https://mobile.twitter.com/KMOV

 

[popsicle]

Lilly A. Fowler ‏@LillyAFowler 21s
An open letter from protesters about last night's events in #Ferugson http://www.scribd.com/doc/241069325/Protester-Open-Letter-9-26-14-Ferguson …

 

[Klood-N]

Peaceful protestor expresses his strong feelings about #Ferguson Chief Jackson. @LBPhoto1 for @StLouisAmerican pic.twitter.com/aE9pdXZesD
https://twitter.com/chriskingstl/status/515496241862815744

This is one of the arrested protestors.

 

[nothingnew]

I agree....
be careful how you post. Apparently posters need to use AA instead of blacks.

Even if they're Jamaican? The only blacks I know socially are Jamaican & Ethiopian. How offensive- they're not American.

 

[SnoopyDawgDawg]

Thing is, some do not deal with facts, only perception. We have been told over and over we have to be more understanding, cognizant of "feelings". Well, we've seen and heard these "feelings". How can anyone live with them?

Well I'm a CBT girl myself (http://www.nami.org/Content/Navigat...nd_Supports/Cognitive_Behavioral_Therapy1.htm), i.e. let's deal with the behaviors first and how those behaviors affect one's ability to effectively function in society; then we'll deal with the feelings one has that incite one to inappropriate behaviors. This way one can properly function in society while learning to understand one's feelings.

 

[DebinGA]

Peaceful protestor expresses his strong feelings about #Ferguson Chief Jackson. @LBPhoto1 for @StLouisAmerican pic.twitter.com/aE9pdXZesD
https://twitter.com/chriskingstl/status/515496241862815744

This is one of the arrested protestors.

Were they stapling these banners onto in-place "business" signs, i.e. defacing property not theirs?

 

[krimekat]

Peaceful protestor expresses his strong feelings about #Ferguson Chief Jackson. @LBPhoto1 for @StLouisAmerican pic.twitter.com/aE9pdXZesD
https://twitter.com/chriskingstl/status/515496241862815744

This is one of the arrested protestors.

IMHO if you are arrested, you are not a peaceful protester

 

[Lovejac]

So, Umar Lee, the one who led the NoFootball distraction campaign, was one of several arrested last night.

:giggle: at distraction campaign.

I hope they lose the key to the cell that he's in.