Found Deceased MO - John Forsyth, 49, doctor, Mercy ER Clinic, Cassville, 21 May 2023 *car found*

[waldojabba]

This article has some information about the alleged kidnapping.

Missouri doctor found dead in Ozarks lake 'was previously kidnapped'

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was found dead of a gunshot wound in Beaver Lake in northeast Arkansas on Tuesday, nine days after he was last seen alive leaving work at a hospital in Cassville, Missouri.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Richard said he first learned about the kidnapping through a mutual friend, who only came forward to describe the incident to the family after John went missing earlier this month
The brother said he believed the kidnapping was 'crypto related' but that he did not know anything else about the perpetrators from the account of the mutual friend, who wished to remain anonymous due to ongoing safety concerns.

BBM "the alleged kidnapping" - the operative word being alleged.
A mutual friend - who refuses to be identified tells the brother Richard about the kidnapiping but the details are few. Hopefully that mutual friend has connected with LE and given every last detail they know.

If the victim went through that ordeal, I am having trouble wrapping my my mind around why he just let an incident like that go? Because he was scared makes no sense to me. If you are scared IMO you take measures to be less scared. Beef up your security, maybe buy a gun, get a guard dog and/or take other safety measures. Maybe park you RV closer to others, surely not in an isolated spot. The brother seemed to have very few details only to point to it being he believed "crypto related".

This alleged kidnapping leaves me with a lot of thoughts. JMO

 

[waldojabba]

Does anyone else find it odd that John mentioned nothing about the alleged kidnapping to his brother Richard? Particularly if it was business-related?

It's not the only thing I find odd JMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

It's not the only thing I find odd JMO

Pretty much this entire thing is odd IMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

Does anyone else find it odd that John mentioned nothing about the alleged kidnapping to his brother Richard? Particularly if it was business-related?

My first thought was, he didn't tell his brother because his brother or his brother's family was directly threatened.
Although I'm just not sure. It sounds more like a Netflix show than real life.
People don't usually get kidnapped and never tell anyone.

jmo

 

[neesaki]

Does anyone else find it odd that John mentioned nothing about the alleged kidnapping to his brother Richard? Particularly if it was business-related?

Maybe it wasn’t “business” related? I can‘t stop thinking, the Dr. might have been involved in some other type of business, that his brother knew nothing about. JMO

 

[waldojabba]

Maybe it wasn’t “business” related? I can‘t stop thinking, the Dr. might have been involved in some other type of business, that his brother knew nothing about. JMO

Yes agree. If he was indeed detained and roughed up ( I am having a hard time with the word kidnapped ) and told to keep his mouth shut, it is very possible that he innocently stumbled upon something illegal. He was then given a physical and verbal warning not to tell police. I can see that scenario and in that case why he did not go to police.
But the victim's brother who had so few details of the kidnapping, believed for some reason it was "crypto related". And he also remembered he was told it was cold. So the victim was driven around seemingly by some type of "leg breakers" to a bridge (? did they threaten to toss him in zip tied?) but instead they just let him go? IMO

Missouri doctor found dead in Ozarks lake 'was previously kidnapped'

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was found dead of a gunshot wound in Beaver Lake in northeast Arkansas on Tuesday, nine days after he was last seen alive leaving work at a hospital in Cassville, Missouri.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"The brother said he believed the kidnapping was 'crypto related' but that he did not know anything else about the perpetrators from the account of the mutual friend, who wished to remain anonymous due to ongoing safety concerns.
....
'It was cold. He was zip-tied. He was made to feel very unsafe and taken on a car ride with some people to a bridge and was threatened,' Richard told Fox News Digital, which first reported the alleged kidnapping.

'He did not file a police report because he believed he was in continued danger,' the brother added."

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Do we assume LE has taken and is analyzing phones/computers?.
Family would not be involved, right?

 

[Deleted member 718]

Elizabeth VanMetre​

June 6 update:

Dr. John Forsyth’s family will have a private funeral this weekend. The body is officially with the family.
A public vigil for Sunday evening at Monett City Park is being planned by family. I will get that time out as soon as it’s decided.

[email protected]

 

[Betty P]

Yes agree. If he was indeed detained and roughed up ( I am having a hard time with the word kidnapped ) and told to keep his mouth shut, it is very possible that he innocently stumbled upon something illegal. He was then given a physical and verbal warning not to tell police. I can see that scenario and in that case why he did not go to police.
But the victim's brother who had so few details of the kidnapping, believed for some reason it was "crypto related". And he also remembered he was told it was cold. So the victim was driven around seemingly by some type of "leg breakers" to a bridge (? did they threaten to toss him in zip tied?) but instead they just let him go? IMO

Missouri doctor found dead in Ozarks lake 'was previously kidnapped'

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was found dead of a gunshot wound in Beaver Lake in northeast Arkansas on Tuesday, nine days after he was last seen alive leaving work at a hospital in Cassville, Missouri.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"The brother said he believed the kidnapping was 'crypto related' but that he did not know anything else about the perpetrators from the account of the mutual friend, who wished to remain anonymous due to ongoing safety concerns.
....
'It was cold. He was zip-tied. He was made to feel very unsafe and taken on a car ride with some people to a bridge and was threatened,' Richard told Fox News Digital, which first reported the alleged kidnapping.

'He did not file a police report because he believed he was in continued danger,' the brother added."

In the Ozarks of SW MO, there's quite a bit of criminal activity, the usual violence, substance abuse, etc.

An ER doctor working in that area for many years will have seen the results of that activity coming through his ER. I don't know what protocol is for the health care providers in these situations, but it's probably not without problems and risks.

As a physician, he can't discuss what he sees with friends or family; only with LE, the hospital and the patients, themselves.

ETA for grammar

Links for some stats for Barry County

Crime Insight

Crime Reporting

showmecrime.mo.gov

Crime Insight

Crime Reporting

showmecrime.mo.gov

https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/county/missouri/barry

https://crimegrade.org/safest-places-in-barry-county-mo/

 

[Charlot123]

In the Ozarks of SW MO, there's quite a bit of criminal activity, the usual violence, substance abuse, etc.

An ER doctor working in that area for many years will have seen the results of that activity coming through his ER. I don't know what protocol is for the health care providers in these situations, but it's probably not without problems and risks.

As a physician, he can't discuss what he sees with friends or family; only with LE, the hospital and the patients, themselves.

ETA for grammar

Links for some stats for Barry County

Crime Insight

Crime Reporting

showmecrime.mo.gov

Crime Insight

Crime Reporting

showmecrime.mo.gov

https://www.bestplaces.net/crime/county/missouri/barry

https://crimegrade.org/safest-places-in-barry-county-mo/

This is highly likely

I am also wondering that Dr. F would be occasionally "prone to embellishment of the facts, when in the right mood". Probably something happened, and he told it to the first person, his friend, in a somewhat exalted way (not unusual if you are still anxious). Then the emotions are vented with the story, and he refuses to repeat it to his brother because he understands the story would sound exaggerated to the brother. By the same token, he understands any standard fact-gathering procedure from the LE would make the story sound strange.

 

[Charlot123]

This article has some information about the alleged kidnapping.

Missouri doctor found dead in Ozarks lake 'was previously kidnapped'

Dr. John Forsyth, 49, was found dead of a gunshot wound in Beaver Lake in northeast Arkansas on Tuesday, nine days after he was last seen alive leaving work at a hospital in Cassville, Missouri.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The phrase "tableaux of facts" is very interesting.

Either it is somewhat misused in a stilted manner, because, give or take, "tableau" is a picture or something visual. Placing it side-by-side side with logical, dry "facts", especially in the plural form, is unusual.

Or, indeed, Dr. F was painting his life with bold, broad strokes, and this is how it now looks like to his family: as several pictures covered with broad, eccentric, colorful strokes of facts. Definitely it would hint at the ability to compartmentalize different areas of his life.

 

[Rosiebones]

The autopsy is completed and the body released to the family for a funeral. LE continues to investigate this as a homicide, does that mean suicide is officially ruled out?

 

[?!?]

Question re Missouri requirements for doctor reporting their activities:

Is there a legal requirement for doctors to report any medical service or activity that they perform (regardless of location -- meaning outside of a hospital or office setting)?

Are they required to report any 'suspicious' activity or injury that they become aware of?

Seems there should be...and be available to LE.

 

[MrsWatson]

Question re Missouri requirements for doctor reporting their activities:

Is there a legal requirement for doctors to report any medical service or activity that they perform (regardless of location -- meaning outside of a hospital or office setting)?

Are they required to report any 'suspicious' activity or injury that they become aware of?

Seems there should be...and be available to LE.

I've found this regarding gunshot wounds. Doesn't address other wounds received during a crime, though.

~ETA this is also from 2014.

http://4e5ae7d17e.nxcli.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Mandatory-Reporting-of-Non-Accidental-Injury-Statutes-by-State.pdf

 

[?!?]

His official record: "Licensee failed to maintain adequate and complete patient records and failed to cooperate with the Board during an investigation." (2015)

https://pr.mo.gov/licensee-search-detail.asp?passkey=1955746

 

[al66pine]

Dr. F. Board Certified Specialty?

His official record: "Licensee failed to maintain adequate and complete patient records and failed to cooperate with the Board during an investigation." (2015)

https://pr.mo.gov/licensee-search-detail.asp?passkey=1955746

Thanks so much for posting link to MO. prof. registration site. From that site:

"Board Certification: Family Practice,"
"Board certification is provided by the licensee. It has not been verified by the Board of Registration for the Healing Arts. To verify visit ABMS and AOA."

ABMS* shows him as "Family Medicine - Specialty"
but "last reported location" as "Republic, MO." (but no date for last location).

If AOA** provides public access to dr. bd.-cert. specialty info, I'm missing it.
Anyone? TiA.

_____________________________________
* ABMS site = ABMS | American Board of Medical Specialties
then links to https://www.certificationmatters.org/
Enter John Forsyth in search bars--->>

https://www.certificationmatters.org/find-my-doctor/?dsearch=1&fname=John+&lname=Forsyth&state=MO&specialty=

** Home

 

[Vresia]

The autopsy is completed and the body released to the family for a funeral. LE continues to investigate this as a homicide, does that mean suicide is officially ruled out?

My understanding of the investigation is that it is a "death investigation". This does not rule out suicide. Richard and others have referred to this as a "homicide investigation"; this does not mean that Dr. F's death has been classified as a homicide. Owing to the unusual circumstances, it has to be investigated as if it could be a homicide.

The medical examiner's office will not release it's autopsy report until toxicological analysis on all of the biologic samples collected during the physical autopsy is completed. There is a reported backlog of at least 2 months at the Arkansas State Crime Lab. We aren't going to learn the official cause or manner of Dr. F's death for some time.

 

[Centaurus]

I wonder what other secrets he kept from his family?

 

[Deleted member 718]

Family slam officials mysterious death of Missouri ER doctor

John Forsyth was found shot dead in a lake in the Ozarks nine days after he disappeared on May 21. Many of his family members did not discover he had a pregnant fiancée until after the tragedy.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"The family of a Missouri ER doctor and crypto millionaire who died last month in suspicious circumstances have slammed authorities for keeping them 'in the dark' throughout the investigation."
(sbm)

"The father-of-eight, had just finalized a divorce from his wife on May 11, and proposed marriage to his new fiancée three days before he was last seen alive.

A source close to the family has now revealed that his fiancée, who wishes to remain anonymous, is eight months pregnant.

Many devastated family members were not even aware he was newly engaged and had not met her until after his disappearance.

His father Robert, who learned about the pregnancy and engagement after his death, said the situation is especially tragic for his fiancée.

'I have never cried and prayed so much as the last two weeks,' he said. 'They were planning their wedding.'

When John was last seen finishing his shift at Mercy Hospital at around 7am, he had been texting his new fiancée to tell her he would see her later that day."

 

[Deleted member 718]

I wonder what other secrets he kept from his family?

I can somewhat understand not revealing an eight months pregnant girlfriend while still married. What else do you think he may have concealed?