MO - Lindsay, 8, & Samuel Porter, 7, Independence, 6 June 2004

[richandfamous]

Sam and Lindsey Porter still missing.

http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S=3340910

"KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- A man who has refused to reveal the whereabouts of his two children was ordered Friday to spend 10 years in prison on an unrelated gun charge, a stiff sentence prosecutors hope will convince him to talk.

Daniel Porter's sentence would run consecutively with a potentially lengthy term imposed as a result of state kidnapping charges, for which the 42-year-old Independence man is to stand trial in November."

"Porter was given a chance to speak Friday but said nothing, to the disappointment of his former wife and her family, who hoped he might give some clue about the whereabouts of the children."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There's only one reason he would take a 10 yr sentence for this and not say where they were.

if they were alive, he would say where they are...jmo

the pig!

there's also a video of the kids mother leaving the court house at the news link.

 

[sharon25]

This is sooooooooo sad.

It would be nearly impossible to just do a foot search wouldn't it?

That poor woman. my heart goes out to her!!!

 

[sharon25]

Where did you read that? Do you have a link? That is so awful!

Here it is! Answered my own questions! How sad! I had not heard that these people were missing!

IMO

http://www.journaltimes.com/articles/2004/06/20/local/iq_2948091.txt

And just for information about this other case that was posted here:

I looked this up and the only thing I could find were several articles citing a possible murder-suicide by the father.

you can google his name Kevin Amde.

 

[sharon25]

Has the mother hired a private investigator?

what about the police "tapping" phone lines of people who
were close with the father???
Like that *itch of a woman???

this is heart wrenching!
I wish I lived closer. I'd go knocking door to door.

 

[richandfamous]

Has the mother hired a private investigator?

what about the police "tapping" phone lines of people who
were close with the father???
Like that *itch of a woman???

this is heart wrenching!
I wish I lived closer. I'd go knocking door to door.

the *itch needs to be interrogated

by me!~

 

[dacqueri]

When i saw this case unfold on Dr. Phil's show, I think i expected that so-called friend to crack...she gave some insight and revealed things not known, so I truly hoped we would have closure. My heart ached for mom, and i pray that she holds on. No one can be that evil, although I have seen much of that on here...and i hope one day he will feel the pain and heartache she is now feeling.
I am curious as to why Dr. Phil has not provided an update to this case. Imagine what could happen if there was more exposure of this kind on television. I believe every show should sponsor at least one commercial devoted to a missing person...whether it is prime-time or day time. The pictures of these children should be seen daily, and maybe someone will see them or remember them...someday!

 

[sharon25]

When i saw this case unfold on Dr. Phil's show, I think i expected that so-called friend to crack...she gave some insight and revealed things not known, so I truly hoped we would have closure. My heart ached for mom, and i pray that she holds on. No one can be that evil, although I have seen much of that on here...and i hope one day he will feel the pain and heartache she is now feeling.
I am curious as to why Dr. Phil has not provided an update to this case. Imagine what could happen if there was more exposure of this kind on television. I believe every show should sponsor at least one commercial devoted to a missing person...whether it is prime-time or day time. The pictures of these children should be seen daily, and maybe someone will see them or remember them...someday!

I am e-mailing Dr. Phil and asking him to please do an update, or to re-air the show!!!!!

Even just showing the pictures and taking just 5 minutes out of his show would help!!!!!!

http://www.drphil.com/email/email_ask_phil.jhtml

 

[sharon25]

the *itch needs to be interrogated

by me!~

I think that she either has Direct knowledge of where the children are, or has helped hide them. Alive or dead
I think it's odd that she decided to inform the detectives Later on that their "father" said they kids were fine.

Maybe she's just saying that so that they don't try to convict him and give them time to hide the bodies even better?? God this is so horrible.

I hope and pray that they are alive.. but do you really think that someone would really keep them hidden for so long???

And would it be just one person keeping them??? What would they have had to tell the children to keep them from trying to call the police or run away???
Do they really think that they can keep them forever??

It really doesn't seem likely, at this point, that the children are alive.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that I am wrong.

But I think that the night the mother got those weird, and scary text messages, was the night that he killed them. And I think he was planning on killing himself as well but chickened out at the last minute.

He is obviously a coward.

Throw him in a cell with a few Bubbas, maybe then he'll decide he wants to talk.

 

[Bobbisangel]

It sounds like the father really wanted to get back at the mother. It's doubtful that he has the kids hidden out somewhere for this length of time.
I wish LE would turn their backs for just a few minutes and put some great big guy in the cell with this father. Then the big guy could beat this father senseless or beat him until he tells where those kids are.

That father probably didn't bat an eye over the 10 years....the way the system works he'll be out of prison in 2-3 years. If he hates the mother so much it would probably be worth it to him. Makes a person wonder how a piece of slime like him could even father children.

 

[sharon25]

It sounds like the father really wanted to get back at the mother. It's doubtful that he has the kids hidden out somewhere for this length of time.
I wish LE would turn their backs for just a few minutes and put some great big guy in the cell with this father. Then the big guy could beat this father senseless or beat him until he tells where those kids are.

That father probably didn't bat an eye over the 10 years....the way the system works he'll be out of prison in 2-3 years. If he hates the mother so much it would probably be worth it to him. Makes a person wonder how a piece of slime like him could even father children.

Or how their marriage lasted for 15 years.. I believe it was that long.
and why the hell does he hate HER so much? From what I've read
HE was the one having the Affair!!!!

I don't think he's going to get out so quickly.
And if he does he'd better go run and hide as well..

 

[lisag]

But I think that the night the mother got those weird, and scary text messages, was the night that he killed them. And I think he was planning on killing himself as well but chickened out at the last minute.

I agree. I think he wanted to hurt the mother very bad - and he knew what it would take to hurt her in the worst way possible. I think he was willing to do anything to hurt her and Ibeleive he did it.
This is so heartbraeking... I can not even begin to imagine the pain and frustration that this poor woman is going through. I honestly do not know how she makes it through every single day. Bless her.

 

[richandfamous]

I am e-mailing Dr. Phil and asking him to please do an update, or to re-air the show!!!!!

Even just showing the pictures and taking just 5 minutes out of his show would help!!!!!!

http://www.drphil.com/email/email_ask_phil.jhtml

Sharon, please let us know if you hear anything back from the Dr Phil show!
I hope he doesn't drop the ball on this...Dr Phil at least put some pressure on the woman friend of the father and also on the cops in this case.

 

[CaliKid]

This man sounds very much like my ex. He is a narcissistic control freak with a victim complex who looks at the world and Tina as if they have wronged him. So he gets back in a way that hurts the most- stealing the children.

If I were LE, I would arrest and put that Lisa woman on trial for obstruction or something similar, dangling a long prison sentence in front of her in hopes of making her tell the truth. Sadly I don't think the dad is going to say anything, especially if he's killed the kids.

 

[KrazyKollector]

I cannot stand how the victims have so few rights but the offender has so, so many.
I think a few knitting needles, wire cutters and a good hammer should be able to be used in these cases to help "coax" information out of the creeps.:behindbar

I doubt if we'd even need to pay the interrogator. I feel more than a few volunteers would step forward, including me.

 

[GinaAngel435]

Why don't they just toture the father into telling them where the children are? Pull out his toe nails? Something? He deserves much worse then that, but I can't go into that here!

This case is so sad... I just keep thinking what I would do in Tina's situation and I can't even fathom what her life must be like now. What she must be thinking, wondering, hoping, praying. And her husband is right there, in the flesh, and he just won't say a darn thing.

I read this on another post ... and I liked it.

"There's a special kind of hell for parents like this". A very, very special place.

My heart & prayers go out to Tina & her family!!

 

[mysteriew]

A man who is set to stand trial in November after allegedly kidnapping his children told a newspaper that the children are with a "well-off family."

Daniel Porter has refused to tell police and his ex-wife the whereabouts of the two children since they disappeared in June 2004 when he picked them up for a weekend visit.

"The children are fine," Daniel Porter told The Kansas City Star in a telephone call from his jail cell.

Porter refused to say where the children are staying.

http://www.kctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3458166

 

[mysteriew]

“The children are fine,” Daniel Porter said in a 17-minute collect call from the Jackson County Corrections Center, where he awaits charges that he kidnapped Sam and Lindsey.

Authorities, however, have found no signs indicating whether the children are dead or alive. They also don't know whether the children are in Missouri or elsewhere.

Porter acknowledged that the children were in his care before they disappeared. However, he said, the public will view the episode differently after he tells his side of the story. He also said he doesn't plan to fully explain his motivations until after his November kidnapping trial.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/11858694.htm

 

[sharon25]

Sharon, please let us know if you hear anything back from the Dr Phil show!
I hope he doesn't drop the ball on this...Dr Phil at least put some pressure on the woman friend of the father and also on the cops in this case.

I e-mailed them and haven't heard anything since
Just got an automated reply about how they get so many e-mails a day but thanks for taking the time to write.

anyone else have any suggestions??

 

[sharon25]

A man who is set to stand trial in November after allegedly kidnapping his children told a newspaper that the children are with a "well-off family."

Daniel Porter has refused to tell police and his ex-wife the whereabouts of the two children since they disappeared in June 2004 when he picked them up for a weekend visit.

"The children are fine," Daniel Porter told The Kansas City Star in a telephone call from his jail cell.

Porter refused to say where the children are staying.

http://www.kctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3458166

Why wouldn't they call home???
Do you think he could've convinced them that their mother died or something???

Anyone believe him? I pray that he is right.
It just seems impossible though

 

[cvickers]

Is there any truth to 'truth serum'?

If so, for the life of me, I don't understand why there hasn't been more use of it in situations like this!! :banghead:

Truth serum doesn't work at all - the legend was invented by movie writers who thought it was a good gimmick. Sodium pentothal does nothing but put you to sleep (it's a common anaesthetic used in surgical procedures).

BTW, torture doesn't work either. There are reasons that goes far beyond 'rights' why torture isn't used these days; one is, it's horribly damaging to those who administer it (ie the police in this case). Being a torturer even once or twice is a virtual ironclad guarantee of future severe mental illness.

Also, torture is (like pentothal) much, much more effective in movies than it has ever been in real life. In real life, those tortured rarely if ever say anything other than what they've said before. This has been known for centuries; even today, torture is mainly used as a form of punishment and vengeance, generally by those who don't much respect life.

In other words, it's a sadist's tool to get back at people, not a legitimate form of investigation.