MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #12

[Amster]

I guess the teenage neighbor didn't fit as the perp.....along with the list of people provided by the parents as suspects....so, the local handyman is next?

 

[Nana46]

I've only followed one other case on WS--I think someone calling self Cubby moderated It was tightly moderated and comments seemed to stay on subject. Is this a fast moving case as some claim or is it because there are so many tangents? Is it acceptable for a newby to say: can comments please be kept on focus to the case? Is there a way to have conversations about dogs, clowns, etc on private messages but not on this forum? Not wanting to offend but...

I am sorry. My bad. Sometimes it takes my mind off the mess of little missing children when I interact with another poster. Sorry to offend. Will try to keep my comments on topic.

 

[BeanE]

This is interesting. Okay, well, maybe just to me.

I just did a search on Twitter for kidnapped baby and then for abducted baby. Not a single reporter or news station tweet came up since Oct 4 & 5. In other words, the reporters and news stations are no longer referring to Lisa as kidnapped or abducted, like they were at first.

In other vaguely related news, the FBI has still not listed Lisa on its Kidnappings/abductions page:

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/@@wanted-group-listing

 

[cachmo]

I learned a lot on black market adoptions when Baby Kate from Ludington MI was first reported missing. They are possible and it is very scary. The people receiving the "adoptive baby doesn't have to th know the baby is stolen. Google it, I guarantee you will be shocked and sick.
Im not saying this happened to Lisa. I am completely on the fence (almost always, I do teeter )

 

[krimekat]

If I understand your post correctly, you think Lisa could have been kidnapped in order for someone to adopt her? How would it be possible to adopt out a stolen baby?

Not adopt . . . SOLD! I don't know what goes on behind the scenes in adoption agencies or Catholic Charities (where my friend adopted).

I'm keeping all options open about Lisa's abduction until we have solid evidence. So far, IMHO, she could have been taken for whatever reason. Adoption is the only one I want to think about . . .

 

[Shelby1]

Thank you, it's something worth while. I cannot believe mothers would keep children up past 9p on a school night. We need to know who saw Lisa (except Mom, Dad) last . . .

I'll watch or find a transcripts . . . BTW I hate watching video! Love read transcripts -- rarely watch unless you fine people talk about body language.

BBM. ME TOO.


I cannot believe that they don't offer transcripts...sigh...

 

[Jacie Estes]

I've only followed one other case on WS--I think someone calling self Cubby moderated It was tightly moderated and comments seemed to stay on subject. Is this a fast moving case as some claim or is it because there are so many tangents? Is it acceptable for a newby to say: can comments please be kept on focus to the case? Is there a way to have conversations about dogs, clowns, etc on private messages but not on this forum? Not wanting to offend but...

We are discussing a beautiful little girl who is missing. I will admit that I am one of the people who is glued to my laptop wanting to know where she is. This topic is stressful and when you have been commenting for a few days, even though you don't know the other posters in person, you start to banter. It helps to break the tension.

 

[Soulmagent]

Marc Klaas interveiw. I dont know if it was posted but I just saw it.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/44842241#44801875

 

[liz b.]

This struck me as funny but can't tell you why!!

I'm the ''exception proves the rule'' kinda gal so I will go with the percentages for the moment. Has the family acted at all suspect since they reported her missing?

I think Lisa's parents are devastated that she is no longer there with them... MOO

 

[SilkySifaka]

I guess the teenage neighbor didn't fit as the perp.....along with the list of people provided by the parents as suspects....so, the local handyman is next?

Actually I think both are possibilities, obviously LE is checking into both.

The neighbor is still the one i think most likely but quite willing to look at the handyman too.

 

[krimekat]

Mother says neighbour over with child watching a movie on this video:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/12087643...ssing-baby-lisa-speak-out/?playlist_id=163706

link not available but thanks. I'm going to go get it! And watch . . .

 

[norest4thewicked]

I guess the teenage neighbor didn't fit as the perp.....along with the list of people provided by the parents as suspects....so, the local handyman is next?

Well they do have to follow up on all leads...

 

[Paige SC]

BBM I am sorry, but this one made me chuckle and my first thought was "oh Lordy, Paige has no idea of the can she just opened."

That question has been highly debated since day one on these threads.

Some find their behavior suspect, some don't. I m not sure what percentages a show of hands would reveal. But leave it at we are all pretty well split in our opinions of that.

Ok, I just listened to the parent's talking to Judge (?) on the Fox clip. Yes, I stand by my 1st impression of the dad... (=Josh Powell). So right now I say dad has something to do with this and the mother could go 50/50.. I'm not convinced she's NOt involved. My $ is on the dad until something else develops.

 

[Gardenlady]

I guess the teenage neighbor didn't fit as the perp.....along with the list of people provided by the parents as suspects....so, the local handyman is next?

Has LE said he/she was ruled out, or didn't fit?

 

[BeanE]

Missing Baby Lisa Irwin: Inside The Investigation
Former FBI agent Brad Garrett discusses the investigation of the missing baby.
02:18 | 10/10/2011

video from ABC - Good Morning America

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-baby-lisa-irwin-inside-investigation-14703712

 

[Shelby1]

Thank you, it's something worth while. I cannot believe mothers would keep children up past 9p on a school night. We need to know who saw Lisa (except Mom, Dad) last . . .

I'll watch or find a transcripts . . . BTW I hate watching video! Love read transcripts -- rarely watch unless you fine people talk about body language.

I'm not even sure I recall her saying an exact time...but, I could be wrong.

 

[Shelby1]

link not available but thanks. I'm going to go get it! And watch . . .

Dang, it worked for me (I didn't watch the whole thing, just made sure it started)

 

[elepher50]

link not available but thanks. I'm going to go get it! And watch . . .

Not sure why the link isn't working - I just clicked it again and it brought it up.

Justice with Judge Jeanine
Exclusive: Parents of Missing Baby Lisa Speak Out

Oct 9, 2011

- 4:08 -

Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin sit down with Judge Jeanine Pirro

http://video.foxnews.com/v/12087643...ssing-baby-lisa-speak-out/?playlist_id=163706

I just wrapped it in quotes in hopes it will provide easier access to it instead of hunting for it.

 

[Soulmagent]

This is interesting. Okay, well, maybe just to me.

I just did a search on Twitter for kidnapped baby and then for abducted baby. Not a single reporter or news station tweet came up since Oct 4 & 5. In other words, the reporters and news stations are no longer referring to Lisa as kidnapped or abducted, like they were at first.

In other vaguely related news, the FBI has still not listed Lisa on its Kidnappings/abductions page:

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/@@wanted-group-listing

They just listed Hailey Dunn last week and she has been missing a few days shy of 10 months. I am not sure we can tell alot about investigations though what police say to the media or how they list a case.

The media is a tool investigators use to put whatever investigative spin on the case that meets the needs of the investigation. IMO.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

There was a live, onsight report by Peter Alexander this morning during Today's 3rd hour where he stated the handy man had a criminal background.....as opposed to ML saying he 'may' have a criminal record during the first hour.

I have looked for a link to this and cannot find one.

The original report this am (7am EST) showed Peter in front of the residence reporting this info last evening about the handyman, then Matt and CVS discussed it.

But there was a live update in the daylight this am during the 3rd hour during a news segment where PA stated this as tho it is a fact.

My apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

wm