MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #13

[feistygurl]

I wonder about jeremy not showing much emotion. I know at one time I was on a low dose anti depressant lexapro. During this time my gmother passed away. I felt so bad at the funeral, I could not cry, couldn't make nyself cry and felt really bad about it.

 

[davehead21]

What! My vet suggested getting my dog chipped!

Yeah, same here. You can find studies that say anything and everything causes cancer. :twocents:

 

[Bon]

But these are only good when you bring them in to be scanned. It's not like you can magically find anything with these chips - only verify.

Like I said my thinking was probably off the wall

 

[Duke Fan4]

teen is probably a minor

 

[stilettos]

in a very notorious case, out of Virginia, a mother's daughter went missing from college. In interviews the mother was critisized for this very thing. In one interview she called her daughter "that girl". Her daughter was murdered by an acquaintance. You just never know.

I just do not know if I could judge...I looked crazy to the LE and Judge that were involved in my daughter's case...they flat out told me so...and I told them I was flipping crazy. They would be too! I pray that they find this baby and she is ok...I don't have alot of hope...but I am praying. My DD would say.."look at me, Mom"...and she would be right.

 

[mysteriew]

It's not that far fetched at all.
I believe John Walsh was advocating putting a GPS on young children at one time. If it could be done safely, I think it would be a very good thing for parents to do.

The biggest objection I have to this..... If this was being done to a lot of kids, it would be common knowlege. And if it was common knowlege, what do you think a kidnapper would do and how far would they go to remove the device?

 

[JeannaT]

Exactly how many times has Lisa's mom plead for her babies return?

Every interview I've seen - she tearfully pleads for someone to drop her off, in some safe place, anywhere, her family misses her. Her brothers miss her, everyone loves her, she comes from a good family, drop her off somewhere safe.

Every time I've ever seen her interviewed.

 

[marge_rita]

Not many "my baby," "my pumpkin pie," "my ______," etc. either. "She" and "Her"---very noticeable distancing given the dire situation. For me, one too many red flags. Not buying mom's version of the evening. Nope.

epiphany, :seeya: I agree.

 

[Patty G]

Lisa Irwin Story on Issues 10/10/11

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un2s5TXzLps"]Lisa Irwin: Issues 10/10/11 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[stilettos]

Only thing I can think of re: DNA is to rule out everyone's DNA that was in that house. So if they find some DNA there that is not a match to who was in the house that day.

So if the teen is a minor, his parents would have to consent to DNA being taken?

 

[Wishbone]

Hmm. I know they frequently lead to the death in teeny tiny puppies, in areas where it's the law that puppies be chipped at birth. Like, maltese or exceptionally small yorkie puppies. Puppies that are the size of mice, and the chip is the size of . . . like a good n plenty candy.

Human babies are bigger than the largest breed dogs, though, and I was unaware of any health issue with large breeds.

Are you talking specifically of the microteeny dogs?

Plenty of info out there on all size animals....here's an example

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=131533

 

[essies]

I think we are micro-analyzing everything we can because there has been no forthcoming breaks or leads yet and it's been a week!! I've fallen off the fence (on to both side too) and climbed back on so many times I can't count em all!!
I've been stymied by the lack of emotion on JL's part-then I rationalize it by thinking it's just the man being stoic for his wife who needs support. Then I see DB crying and most of the time JL doesn't hug her (I know there was a hug a time or two) most times she just leans on him and buries her face in his chest!! Then I've been baffled by DB's statements about we "need" her home and that she "completes" our family or she's the glue that holds us together (something like that) and I think maybe there was some tension in the family that Lisa was hopefully the answer too. Then I think "oh stop it!! It's just the Yours, mine and ours factor of a blended family!"
Then I start to think of this B&E&kidnapping with no leads and the craziness of the lights left on!! What intruder comes to break into a house without their own flashlight? Time and stealth is of the essence and you're gonna hope you find the light switch and not make any noise while stumbling around?
AAAAHHHHHH!!!!:banghead:
Please Lord let Lisa be found safe and sound and soon!!!

 

[cluciano63]

I have a question....why is is okay to say "the kids" when referring to one's children, but people freak out if it is singular, i.e "the kid"?

Just wondering...

 

[MissJames]

When my 4 year old got out of the backyard and went across the street to the neighbors, the first thing from my mouth to my husband where is masen, he's gone. I was running around crazy and my neighbor yelled out he is here... Now the backyard gate stays padlocked. I kept saying he's gone while I was the house and yard. Very scary

We have an Autism service dog that also tracks . Very scary when you realize your child is gone.Panic .

 

[raine1212]

So if the teen is a minor, his parents would have to consent to DNA being taken?

Not sure about Kansas, but in Georgia yes

 

[EllaMae]

Well, Thank Goodness we haven't heard DB or JI refer to baby Lisa in those terms - because I agree, to refer to your baby as "that child" is distancing language, IMO. The word "that" is always a distancing word, and refers to something that is not near, linguistically speaking.

Again...it depends. "That Child" is another Southern term, and it is often used in place of a child's name. I have heard a lot of people using it instead of a child's name my entire life, so to me it does not sound the least bit odd. It sounds familiar.
To someone in Colorado, however, it may seem cold.

 

[JeannaT]

The biggest objection I have to this..... If this was being done to a lot of kids, it would be common knowlege. And if it was common knowlege, what do you think a kidnapper would do and how far would they go to remove the device?

A GPS device can't be implanted inside a child. It's too big. We do have them on the market, for people with alzheimers who wander or criminals under house arrest - they're a little big bigger than the biggest men's watch. They can't be implanted inside the body because their batteries have to be changed, and they're huge.

If someone is likely to go missing - again, the examples above - they can be strapped around the ankle and an alarm sounds if they are cut off.

A bit much for regular kids to wear around.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Two things which I think are very weak when it comes to figuring people out: "analysis" via body language, or via "statement analysis" - both examples of pop psychology, and both of which don't get the job done.

Body language as in micro expressions? No disrespect, but my understanding was that that is legit, with support from cross-cultural and comparative (animal) research. ...Not that I don't think it couldn't be misapplied.

And can someone give me a quick synopsis of the research behind statement analysis? I'm not at all familiar with it, but I've seen a lot of references to it in Lisa's and others' threads.

 

[passionflower]

Just heard on JVM, mom sid she failed poly........

 

[4BB]

I think I read 2 different things..

Did DB state she left the door unlocked or that she was unsure if she left it unlocked?

It was unlocked when JI got home. If the window was the point of entry, then maybe the perp unlocked and ran out the door for a faster getaway.