MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #6

[dog.gone.cute]

That is a mystery. If all of their cell phones were gone, how did he call? Another cell he had with him? As far as I know there is no report of going to a neighbor's(?)

Yes ... we have no report of him going to neighbor ...

Has it been confirmed if there is a landline in the home ? Is it possible the father had a "company" cell phone ?

Just thinking out loud here.

MOO ...

 

[Cazzie]

Whenever a call is made, there is some type of answer on the other end. Either a person or voice mail. LE would be able to track that record and find out who the call was made to. That person should remember who called them at 2:30 am.

Not if there is not an answering machine turned on and functioning properly, and no automated voice mail/note system that is activated (and functioning properly)....



I have placed plenty of calls to numbers that just rang and rang...even to businesses, which is pretty amazing. Don't they wonder how much business they lose...

 

[Melanie]

BBM: Not dreaming ... I read that also -- the mother stopped a police car ...

Hmmm ... how "lucky" can one get to have a "police car" passing on your street just about the time you need to call 9-1-1 ?

So, they must not have had a landline -- or would have called 9-1-1 from the landline ...

moo ...

snipped from : http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-pol...-search-of-baby-lisa-20111007,0,5538504.story

ETA: According to the parents, baby Lisa was taken from her crib in her Northland home in the 3600 block of North Lister sometime between the hours of 10:30 p.m. Monday night and 4 a.m. Tuesday morning. The baby's father called police around 4 a.m. Tuesday when he came home from work and discovered her missing.

Just an fyi -- we don't pay for a landline phone, but we can still use it to call 911. Just plug in a phone and viola. I keep a phone by my nightstand (in a drawer) for such emergencies -- just in case I can't find a cell phone. Most homes are wired that way (not sure how this would apply to this home, however).

For most, there would be no need to get in your car and dial 911 or look for a police car.

MOO

Mel

 

[mysteriew]

Back in July of this year, my son-in-law (who is an electrician) was working on a job when his phone came up missing. He'd only had the phone for a couple of days but left it sitting somewhere on the job site. My daughter went online for an app that tells you where the phone is and was able to see where the phone was...not on the job site but at a residential area. My SIL called the police and he and the police went to the address where the phone was pinging. They knocked on the door and someone looked out the window but never came to the door. They waited. My daughter all this time is watching the app for the phone and it quit pinging momentarily and then appeared again in the backyard of a house a couple of doors down.

The guy who took it had been working on my SIL's job site and had stolen it. He brought it home but when he saw the police were there, he went out the back door and went to a back yard of a neighbor and hid it in a child's toy dump truck. That's where it was found.

I tried to find the interview that they did on TV, but its no longer there. This happened though, so that is my personal experience with cell phones and pinging.

It sounds like that phone had GPS on it. Those are great!

 

[Sleuths4Me]

I recently had my 16mo old in pj shorts and shirt and a sleep sack....I don't think that is uncommon

 

[annalia]

Lots of kids pj sets come with a top, a pair of shorts and a pair of pants. And they're pj's. There's nothing wrong with putting a baby to bed in shorts and a top - sounds like it was a matched set.

In fact, my daughter had pj's that fit the same description when she was a toddler. Purple top with a white kitten on it, and matching stretchy purple shorts. They were sold as pj's - think I got them from Target or maybe even Costco.

Believe me, I suspect the parents big time, but there's nothing about the bedtime outfit that is strange, IMO.

I agree, I don't see anything wrong with it. And mine, both boy and girl, had little pajama shorts sets as well. I was just asking because I was getting the impression that there might confusion about what type of shorts.

Also, if Lisa had been running a fever, I could see putting her in shorts to keep her body temperature cooler.

JMHO

 

[Mandy113]

The police have never released any type of timeline have they? I was just wondering if this is something they might typically do in a missing children's case, especially after days pass with no resolution. We just have the bare facts of what happened that night from an official source correct?

(And thanks to Shelby for your GREAT timeline you've shared with us on WS!)

 

[KathrynL]

Yes ... we have no report of him going to neighbor ...

Has it been confirmed if there is a landline in the home ? Is it possible the father had a "company" cell phone ?

Just thinking out loud here.

MOO ...

Didn't on of them say (the mom?) something like "they took the phones so we couldn't call 911 (or for help)"? I think I read that somewhere. If so, that makes it sound like there isn't a land line. Maybe.

 

[natsound]

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15642798/authorities-search-joco-landfill-for-missing-baby-lisa


"Irwin said he came home from his overnight shift around 4 a.m. Tuesday. He noticed a first-floor window open in the front of the house. After checking on his sons, 6 and 8, he went to the bedroom of his daughter, Lisa, and noticed her missing. Deborah Bradley said she ran through the house screaming for her daughter but there was no answer"

OK, something is wrong here. I watched the video on The Today Show, and their computerized image, IIRC, showed the baby's room more easily accessible from the front door. But according to this article, the dad bypassed the baby's room and checked on his two sons first (one was in his own room and the other sleeping with mom). Only after that he went to the room that was most easily accessible when he walked in the front door? Hmmm. He would have had to walk by the baby's room TWICE if he checked on one son, then the other.

 

[mysteriew]

Not if there is not an answering machine turned on and functioning properly, and no automated voice mail/note system that is activated (and functioning properly)....



I have placed plenty of calls to numbers that just rang and rang...even to businesses, which is pretty amazing. Don't they wonder how much business they lose...

But if you check your cell phone record, you will still see a record of when you made that call and what the number was. The number would indicate who the phone carrier was, and the carrier would have a record of the owner of that number. Unless it was a throw away phone, then you would have to trace down where they were buying the minutes and hope they used a credit or debit card.

It can get complicated, but it can and has been done. Most people have an idea of who might have tried to call them at 2:30 in the morning. That is not a time that most people would try to call.

 

[nursebeeme]

wiki says that metal detectors can detect cell phones with or without batteries

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just an fyi -- we don't pay for a landline phone, but we can still use it to call 911. Just plug in a phone and viola. I keep a phone by my nightstand (in a drawer) for such emergencies -- just in case I can't find a cell phone. Most homes are wired that way (not sure how this would apply to this home, however).

For most, there would be no need to get in your car and dial 911 or look for a police car.

MOO

Mel

Thank You, Mel !

This is interesting ... and something to check into that can come in handy for an emergency.

:seeya:

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Please no cherished gas cans. :floorlaugh:

With duct tape over the spout

 

[wfgodot]

Aggravated reporter who doesn't know mic is on currently swearing etc. on Fox4 streaming video, arguing with someone about something.

http://www.fox4kc.com/

Just handed the phone to someone else. Hilarious while it lasted though.

 

[shefner]

I've chased this thread all day.....I feel like I've been beat with a whip....

 

[Melanie]

Please no cherished gas cans. :floorlaugh:

As much time as that gas can got, and how certain family members blubbered over it, I think it should be officially part of the family. Have it's own room, cell phone, etc. Ya know

Sorry to get OT...carry on!

:great:

 

[CKSWarriorQueen]

http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_Blog_Amber_Alert_Issued_For_Missing_10-Month-Old#ixzz1a8IsyUSD

From the KMBC live blog, pic of police w/metal detectors.

 

[lauriej]

...do we know how long they had lived in that house ?

..thanks! if anyone knows.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/10/7/7fb7d802-9230-467c-a525-48e662ec7efe_400.jpg

picture from live blog.. says that they are searching behind home(s) ((plural)) with metal detectors..

they are obviously looking for these three phones.. they are the key imhoo

 

[LadyPirate]

Really, I can't believe the shorts are that important. My kids all slept in shorts, my grandkids sleep in shorts. Heck, my granddaughter sleot in her brothers shorts and t shirts as she grew into them. I sleep in shorts and t shirts. It's not a big deal. Really, it isn't.

At 60 degrees outside, the houses tend to hold in the heat of the day. Right now our temps are falling down into the 40's and 50's at night in the area where I live. However, with temps around 80 during the day, the house is hot. The windows are open and I sleep without covers. So a child sleeping in shorts would not be a big deal either. I'm sure they were comfortable.

As for the lights, my hubby works 3rd shift from time to time and I ALWAYS leave at least one light on, sometimes 2 in our livingroom. Many times I will also leave the tv on.

I do always have a landline and a cell phone by my side. I also have a dog that screeches like she is dying whenever something unusual takes place. She's worth her 12 lbs in gold.