MO - Off-duty officer (Katlyn Alix) shot dead by on-duty officer (Nathaniel Hendren), Jan 2019

[PrairieWind]

@PrairieWind , is this at all "normal"? You'd think there would be some kind of protocol in situations like this that would require an outside investigation...
I'm beyond baffled, not to mention angry! Thanks for any insight you can provide!

There are at least two investigations going on here. The Circuit Attorney is investigating and prosecuting this as she would other crimes/defendants. However, much of the investigation, at least initially, was likely done by STMPD. Internal Affairs of the STMPD is also investigating for internal violations. Many jurisdictions have policies that when an officer shoots someone, that must be investigated by an outside agency. I don't know if that is the case here. Its seems that there was, at best confusion, at worst interference, in the obtaining warrants for blood samples for drug/alcohol at the hospital on the morning of the shooting.

 

[YESorNO]

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

Feb 26, 2019

"ST. LOUIS • After roll call, an assault report. Then a call for a burglary alarm.

Those were the first stops for St. Louis police Officers Nathaniel Hendren and his partner, Patrick Riordan, as they began their overnight shift on Jan. 24. At least on paper.

But Riordan said later that they never went to the alarm call at a business, according to sources familiar with his statements. Instead, they called another police officer by cellphone to check on the alarm while they hung out with off-duty Officer Katlyn Alix at Hendren’s house, about a 6-mile drive from the business, the sources said.

Hendren and Riordan are accused of drinking at the home while on duty, according to a police document obtained by the Post-Dispatch. And shortly before 1 a.m., Hendren killed Alix, 24, in a Russian roulette-like shooting, according to court documents....

Hendren was charged with involuntary manslaughter and armed criminal action. He has posted 10 percent of a $100,000 bail, and remains on house arrest at an undisclosed location while awaiting trial.

Riordan has not been charged, but is on administrative duty pending the outcome of an Internal Affairs investigation, sources say...."

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

(Officer Katlyn Alix in photos provided by her mother, Aimee Lyn Wahlers)
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[PrairieWind]

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

Feb 26, 2019

"ST. LOUIS • After roll call, an assault report. Then a call for a burglary alarm.

Those were the first stops for St. Louis police Officers Nathaniel Hendren and his partner, Patrick Riordan, as they began their overnight shift on Jan. 24. At least on paper.

But Riordan said later that they never went to the alarm call at a business, according to sources familiar with his statements. Instead, they called another police officer by cellphone to check on the alarm while they hung out with off-duty Officer Katlyn Alix at Hendren’s house, about a 6-mile drive from the business, the sources said.

Hendren and Riordan are accused of drinking at the home while on duty, according to a police document obtained by the Post-Dispatch. And shortly before 1 a.m., Hendren killed Alix, 24, in a Russian roulette-like shooting, according to court documents....

Hendren was charged with involuntary manslaughter and armed criminal action. He has posted 10 percent of a $100,000 bail, and remains on house arrest at an undisclosed location while awaiting trial.

Riordan has not been charged, but is on administrative duty pending the outcome of an Internal Affairs investigation, sources say...."

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

(Officer Katlyn Alix in photos provided by her mother, Aimee Lyn Wahlers)
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Wow, that is just appalling! Assault call and a burglary call. They didn't exactly take the "protect and serve" motto seriously did they?

 

[Psychofcrime]

Here is another reference to the officers call sheet being inaccurate (LIE). Now that throws the timeline into question. These guys were unbelievable! I am appalled and angered. Nothing would surprise me now.
St. Louis officers never went to burglary alarm call before Russian Roulette-style shooting death of off-duty colleague

 

[flute4peace]

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

Feb 26, 2019

"ST. LOUIS • After roll call, an assault report. Then a call for a burglary alarm.

Those were the first stops for St. Louis police Officers Nathaniel Hendren and his partner, Patrick Riordan, as they began their overnight shift on Jan. 24. At least on paper.

But Riordan said later that they never went to the alarm call at a business, according to sources familiar with his statements. Instead, they called another police officer by cellphone to check on the alarm while they hung out with off-duty Officer Katlyn Alix at Hendren’s house, about a 6-mile drive from the business, the sources said.

Hendren and Riordan are accused of drinking at the home while on duty, according to a police document obtained by the Post-Dispatch. And shortly before 1 a.m., Hendren killed Alix, 24, in a Russian roulette-like shooting, according to court documents....

Hendren was charged with involuntary manslaughter and armed criminal action. He has posted 10 percent of a $100,000 bail, and remains on house arrest at an undisclosed location while awaiting trial.

Riordan has not been charged, but is on administrative duty pending the outcome of an Internal Affairs investigation, sources say...."

St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

(Officer Katlyn Alix in photos provided by her mother, Aimee Lyn Wahlers)
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The timeline makes more sense now.

 

[Betty P]

Here is another reference to the officers call sheet being inaccurate (LIE). Now that throws the timeline into question. These guys were unbelievable! I am appalled and angered. Nothing would surprise me now.
St. Louis officers never went to burglary alarm call before Russian Roulette-style shooting death of off-duty colleague

The prosecutor should be able to verify this by reviewing the security cam footage at the business with the burglar alarm call. They should be able to view the car and officers that did respond, if anyone did. They need to go back and get video cam footage of everyplace those guys went that night after reporting for duty.

I'm also hoping they checked security cam footage at every house on Dover Pl. and in the neighborhood of Hendren's apartment. It should tell them when Katly arrived, when Hendren & Riordan arrived, how long they were in the apartment and when they left to take her to the hospital. Also need security video footage to see when they actually went to the hospital.

I'm beginning to question everything these officers have reported. JMO, they're covering up something serious.

 

[Betty P]

The timeline makes more sense now.

So did they just go straight to Hendren's apartment as soon as they left the precinct station? I wonder how often they did that? This explains a lot about complaints I hear from people who live in or own businesses in downtown St. Louis. The common complaint is that most don't bother to call police because they never come. Many businesses hire private security guards for certain events. The problem is that the private security companies employ off-duty St. Louis police officers. So, I guess they only show up if you're paying them as security guards.

 

[SuziQ]

Here is another reference to the officers call sheet being inaccurate (LIE). Now that throws the timeline into question. These guys were unbelievable! I am appalled and angered. Nothing would surprise me now.
St. Louis officers never went to burglary alarm call before Russian Roulette-style shooting death of off-duty colleague

Why hasn't Riordan been fired yet?

 

[Psychofcrime]

From the article... I find this absolutely horrific.

One neighbor, Tom Stockman, 57, said he had moved in two doors down in November — about the same time as Hendren. Having a cop living among them made most of the neighbors feel safer, he said. He and Hendren had made small talk a few times, Stockman said, and he had helped the officer dig his Ford Mustang out of the snow once. Stockman had met Alix while walking his dog just a few days before the shooting, he said. She introduced herself as “Kate.”

Early on Jan. 24, Stockman was watching a movie when he heard a gunshot, then heard someone shout “Help me!”

He rushed to his window and saw Hendren and another uniformed officer dragging a woman toward their police SUV. They were pulling her so forcefully that her hoodie came off. They left it in the street, loaded her in their SUV and sped away, Stockman said.

About two minutes later, Stockman said, police swarmed the block. He said he could tell Hendren was one of the officers dragging the woman, but assumed Hendren had responded to an issue at another house. He didn’t realize the woman was the woman he knew only as Kate until he saw news coverage the next day.
St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

 

[mickey2942]

Two police officers "dragging a woman so forcefully, that her hoody came off". This is terrible. And also brings up a few questions. If this is correct.

1. NH accidentally shoots Alix. Wouldn't the automatic thing to do would be to scoop her up, and carry her out to the SUV? Alix was not that large that NH couldn't pick her up. Even using a Fireman's hold would be better than dragging her.

2. Why were 2 men "dragging" Alix? If nothing else, two men could have rolled Alix onto a blanket and carried her out to the car?

That is an awful picture. I picture Alix being dragged by her heels, down stairs, her head hitting concrete. Getting scratches on her back, when hoody comes off her.

WTH? Were these guys drunk?

 

[Betty P]

Two police officers "dragging a woman so forcefully, that her hoody came off". This is terrible. And also brings up a few questions. If this is correct.

1. NH accidentally shoots Alix. Wouldn't the automatic thing to do would be to scoop her up, and carry her out to the SUV? Alix was not that large that NH couldn't pick her up. Even using a Fireman's hold would be better than dragging her.

2. Why were 2 men "dragging" Alix? If nothing else, two men could have rolled Alix onto a blanket and carried her out to the car?

That is an awful picture. I picture Alix being dragged by her heels, down stairs, her head hitting concrete. Getting scratches on her back, when hoody comes off her.

WTH? Were these guys drunk?

Or they could have called EMS and let professionals with the proper equipment and medications handle getting her to the hospital.

 

[SuziQ]

From the article... I find this absolutely horrific.

One neighbor, Tom Stockman, 57, said he had moved in two doors down in November — about the same time as Hendren. Having a cop living among them made most of the neighbors feel safer, he said. He and Hendren had made small talk a few times, Stockman said, and he had helped the officer dig his Ford Mustang out of the snow once. Stockman had met Alix while walking his dog just a few days before the shooting, he said. She introduced herself as “Kate.”

Early on Jan. 24, Stockman was watching a movie when he heard a gunshot, then heard someone shout “Help me!”

He rushed to his window and saw Hendren and another uniformed officer dragging a woman toward their police SUV. They were pulling her so forcefully that her hoodie came off. They left it in the street, loaded her in their SUV and sped away, Stockman said.

About two minutes later, Stockman said, police swarmed the block. He said he could tell Hendren was one of the officers dragging the woman, but assumed Hendren had responded to an issue at another house. He didn’t realize the woman was the woman he knew only as Kate until he saw news coverage the next day.
St. Louis officers skipped burglar alarm call before fatal shooting of off-duty colleague, sources say

Two strong men couldn't carry her out?

 

[GordianKnot]

Am I correct? Is the cop who killed the other cop while playing RRR still employed with the department, while the cop who stole a suspect's phone was fired?

Well, of course, SoCal!
The shot to KA's chest was purely accidental.
Stealing the phone was intentional.
So, when you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense that the phone thief received the harsher consequence from the SLPD.

Please, somebody pass the Kool-Aid. Make mine a double.

 

[bwt42]

Well, of course, SoCal!
The shot to KA's chest was purely accidental.
Stealing the phone was intentional.
So, when you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense that the phone thief received the harsher consequence from the SLPD.

Please, somebody pass the Kool-Aid. Make mine a double.

Make mine a double with a peach mango crystal lite chaser. The cell phone call to another unit to cover for them got me to thinking. This may have been common practice. SS (Kate) was known around NH apt. & I wouldn't be surprise if other officers new of their relationship. I saw the log of calls made the last night SS & NH rode together. For all we know, their officer buddies could have covered for them while they spent the shift @ Nathans' pad. jmo

 

[SoCalDavidS]

The shot to KA's chest was purely accidental.
Stealing the phone was intentional.
So, when you look at it that way, it makes perfect sense that the phone thief received the harsher consequence from the SLPD

I guess I'm old school. I think a cop who kills someone "accidentally," should be in another line of work, and should have been fired. But there are seldom repercussions.

 

[PrairieWind]

I guess I'm old school. I think a cop who kills someone "accidentally," should be in another line of work, and should have been fired. But there are seldom repercussions.

I'm sure he will be fired, eventually. He better be. But there are just so many hoops that have to jumped through to be able to do it. But I agree, someone who accidentally shoots and kills someone shouldn't be a police officer. I think completely blowing off their patrol responsibilities and drinking on duty should get both officers fired as well.

 

[Willow Knight]

IMO, just wondering if the three officers at the house that night might appear on that "exclusion" list of 28 officers?

Behind again, however is this something available to the public yet? My opinion is WE THE PEOPLE have a right to know how/when/why/where/who when it comes to public officials (servants). The constitution gives us the right, and I feel it is our duty to protect the constitution. If this were private individuals I can understand 'protecting an investigation'. We established a government, pay with our tax dollar their salary, so we can carry out our daily activities.

I have high respect for law enforcement, and do believe the majority of those serving are good people. As in any field there are going to be individuals that don't follow policy. So again, IMO it is our duty to make certain those responsible for serving and protecting are doing just that. I want to know exactly what happened, what those in charge are doing to make certain this will be handled properly.

For now, I'll leave it at that. And for the record, I'm proud of those in LE in my community. I don't worry about any of them at home drinking and playing with guns while they are on duty.

 

[jjenny]

I guess I'm old school. I think a cop who kills someone "accidentally," should be in another line of work, and should have been fired. But there are seldom repercussions.

This isn't "accidental." If the gun dropped to the floor and fired, that would be accidental. Pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger-how could it be possibly described as accidental?

 

[Willow Knight]

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[SoCalDavidS]

This isn't "accidental." If the gun dropped to the floor and fired, that would be accidental. Pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger-how could it be possibly described as accidental?

Pretty much exactly what the Judge said.....then he had to quit the case because the defense raised a fuss. Such is our "justice" system.