MO - Police officer fatally shoots Vonderrick Myers in south St. Louis #1

[reedus23]

Teenager shot by St. Louis police officer was awaiting trial on gun case



How does this guy know that Myers didn't all ready have the gun on him. Does he search all of his customers for weapons before making them a sandwich? GMAB.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_cc12182d-3405-5bc2-8817-9d4c5ab1ebb2.html#.VDfOdNZfDkg.twitter

He doesn't know. He is only making his statements based off of his observations. I'm sure if follow up questions were asked and he were pressed, he'd have to admit that he doesn't know if one was tucked down his pants.

 

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Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 4m4 minutes ago
Mo. Rep. Jeff Roorda says Vonderrit Myers "would be alive today" if he'd been kept in jail on his weapons charge. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-st-louis-braces-after-latest-shooting-of-black-man-20141009-story.html#page=1 …

 

[DebinGA]

Teenager shot by St. Louis police officer was awaiting trial on gun case



How does this guy know that Myers didn't all ready have the gun on him. Does he search all of his customers for weapons before making them a sandwich? GMAB.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_cc12182d-3405-5bc2-8817-9d4c5ab1ebb2.html#.VDfOdNZfDkg.twitter

Article yesterday said the officer suspected teen had a gun by the way he held his hand at his waistband while running away the first time. The article iirc also said the teen's sweatshirt came off in the struggle when the officer finally caught him, and the officer saw the gun then. If true, the sandwich maker wouldn't have seen the gun.

 

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He doesn't know. He is only making his statements based off of his observations. I'm sure if follow up questions were asked and he were pressed, he'd have to admit that he doesn't know if one was tucked down his pants.

Of course he doesn't know. That's why his statement is ridiculous. He made his statements for a reason. To cast suspicion on the officer who shot Myers. JMO.

 

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[popsicle]

KMOX St. Louis News ‏@kmoxnews 2m2 minutes ago
North County lawmakers concerned KKK may counter-demonstrate: http://cbsloc.al/1tJZF08

 

[bettybaby00]

Article yesterday said the officer suspected teen had a gun by the way he held his hand at his waistband while running away the first time. The article iirc also said the teen's sweatshirt came off in the struggle when the officer finally caught him, and the officer saw the gun then. If true, the sandwich maker wouldn't have seen the gun.

Oh, I know, he was doing that b/c those pesky pants are always falling down, and geez c'mon he was just trying to save his sandwich while emulating "pants up, don't loot!"

/sarcasm

Hmmm, SMH, realistically I'm betting officers are trained to see the signs of someone carrying a concealed weapon, whether it be in their pants or a pocket.

 

[krimekat]

stealing flags & then burning them

how is this peaceful?

 

[reedus23]

Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 4m4 minutes ago
Mo. Rep. Jeff Roorda says Vonderrit Myers "would be alive today" if he'd been kept in jail on his weapons charge. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-st-louis-braces-after-latest-shooting-of-black-man-20141009-story.html#page=1 …

Yeah, Roorda has issues of his own. How these guys get elected is beyond me.

He spent spent eleven years as a police officer in Arnold before the department terminated him 2001. According to court filings from a later appeal, Roorda was accused in 1997 of trying to cover for another officer by filing a report containing false statements about a suspect's apprehension and arrest. That incident earned him a reprimand.

Four years later the department fired him after a dispute with his police chief over paternity leave grew heated. Roorda claimed that the chief verbally intimated him, but an audio recording proved that this claim, too, was a "false report."

Oh, and I love the duplicity when it comes to traffic violations. Abhorrent criminal acts when done by citizens but when they're done by LE, they better described, in Roorda's own words:

In any case, Roorda sees the push for body cameras as a way of harassing officers who commit minor infractions, like rolling a stop sign or not buckling their seat belt. He opposes the use of body cameras for the same reason.

"Our experience with the dashboard cameras has been that they haven't been used to find out the material facts of the situation. They've been used to pile petty discipline on our officers," he said.

So in this context, they are minor infractions, harassing and petty.

 

[reedus23]

Of course he doesn't know. That's why his statement is ridiculous. He made his statements for a reason. To cast suspicion on the officer who shot Myers. JMO.

I think he'd be the first to tell you that. In fact, I think the article even said as much. Based on the guy knowing the victim for a decade and based on what he observed earlier in the evening, he was having a hard time buying the cops version. So what? If it were someone I had known for a decade and I had never seen the violent side of them and I had just seen them an hour beforehand and didn't see any weapon and everything seemed normal, I'd probably have my doubts too. If there's a gripe, maybe it's with the media reporting it in that fashion, but I see nothing wrong with him questioning it. Now, denying hard and cold facts as they're established is a different story. Such as forensics proving the gun was fired 3 times at the officer.

 

[reedus23]

KMOX St. Louis News ‏@kmoxnews 2m2 minutes ago
North County lawmakers concerned KKK may counter-demonstrate: http://cbsloc.al/1tJZF08

Watch the Klan be the ones that actually went and got permits to protest.

 

[reedus23]

stealing flags & then burning them

how is this peaceful?

Your relative ok? My brother is fine. Protesters did in fact, at one point, pass by his place down there. I kept an eye out for him but the live streamers never had an angle I could see.

 

[krimekat]

Your relative ok? My brother is fine. Protesters did in fact, at one point, pass by his place down there. I kept an eye out for him but the live streamers never had an angle I could see.

yeah, Matt's okay but the "protesters" who paraded in Flora Place area left a $h*t ton of trash & trampled lots of flora/flowers/plants; many had their flags taken from their property & a few cars parked along the street had their windshields busted

So now KMOX is revising the 30K coming to StL for Ferguson October (or whatever they're calling it) to 10K -- they're headed to Clayton this afternoon at 3p to converge on McCulloch's office. Not a place to be on Friday afternoon as traffic will be a nightmare; I guess this is an opportunity for the "protesters" to use Metrolink & the bus system :laugh: and I hope they brought their rain gear/rubbers & ponchos 'cause it's gonna be a wet weekend

Honestly, these mobsters are stealing the show IMHO & not in a good way for the "peaceful" movement. I have a feeling that there will be many arrests in the next few weeks based on social media comments inciting violence. This is way out of control !!! MB has been lost in this maddness IMHO

 

[krimekat]

Here we go again. I'm sensing a theme. Both Brown and Myers weren't living with their parents AND had issues with their education.

Jackie Williams, 47, said Myers was his nephew and lived with him. He said Myers worked at a warehouse and attended high school. According to school records, Myers attended Confluence charter schools and transferred out in the 2011-12 school year as a freshman.

Myers enrolled in the virtual education program in St. Louis Public Schools last year, said district spokeswoman Meredith Pierce. The Virtual Academy allows students to get credits from home or from several locations. Myers did his work from Gateway STEM Academy.

Myers completed summer school through Virtual Academy, but was dropped from the program on Sept. 9 after missing some days, Pierce said.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_cc12182d-3405-5bc2-8817-9d4c5ab1ebb2.html#.VDfOdNZfDkg.twitter

thanks for pointing this out!!! Lack of education, lack of parental support, growing up in a "gang", "livin' the life", etc. IMHO it's a lost generation

NOTE that this area of south StL has seen its fair share of crime -- too funny but someone last night was crying racism because the StLtoday article used the word gangway :laugh:

 

[DebinGA]

thanks for pointing this out!!! Lack of education, lack of parental support, growing up in a "gang", "livin' the life", etc. IMHO it's a lost generation

NOTE that this area of south StL has seen its fair share of crime -- too funny but someone last night was crying racism because the StLtoday article used the word gangway :laugh:

I've never heard "gangway" used apart from meaning "Out of my way!" It seems an odd choice, but I've never been a city dweller where "gangways" may exist.

MB, DJ, and now Myers were all enrolled in "virtual academies" and not in regular schools. Not sure what that indicates, but it indicates something informative about them imo.

 

[reedus23]

yeah, Matt's okay but the "protesters" who paraded in Flora Place area left a $h*t ton of trash & trampled lots of flora/flowers/plants; many had their flags taken from their property & a few cars parked along the street had their windshields busted

So now KMOX is revising the 30K coming to StL for Ferguson October (or whatever they're calling it) to 10K -- they're headed to Clayton this afternoon at 3p to converge on McCulloch's office. Not a place to be on Friday afternoon as traffic will be a nightmare; I guess this is an opportunity for the "protesters" to use Metrolink & the bus system :laugh: and I hope they brought their rain gear/rubbers & ponchos 'cause it's gonna be a wet weekend

Honestly, these mobsters are stealing the show IMHO & not in a good way for the "peaceful" movement. I have a feeling that there will be many arrests in the next few weeks based on social media comments inciting violence. This is way out of control !!! MB has been lost in this maddness IMHO

I thought the number had always been reported between 2,000 and 10,000 with 7,000 being the most common figure given. Regardless, I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's 700. But, to look at the positive...if 30,000 were to come in to town, they all have to eat somewhere. They all have to get gas somewhere. They all will drink somewhere. Keep spending those dollars in Missouri and help us pay for this stuff.