MO MO - Ricky McCormick, 41, St Louis, 30 June 1999

[Video1]

I'll bet a lot of body shops have all those manuals and catalogs going back at least to the 90's.

That's not my point, I can get the manuals, do you have any idea how much time that would take?.

There is a much bigger problem here if they did not recognize these codes as industry codes and know what they were, and now that they did a web launch they better be proactive because I am telling you that if someone does this its going to be a B***h for them to catch.

I have never seen this done, I think they made a big mistake.

K

 

[UdbCrzy2]

I'll bet a lot of body shops have all those manuals and catalogs going back at least to the 90's.

You're right. A body shop would have software they use to write an auto body estimate. They use to use Mitchell's Manuals before software, but now everyone has upgrade to the computer age.

Just wanted to mention also, that sometimes parts numbers supersede to another number. It's like they discontinue a certain number. So we are also faced with that situation also of seeing a current part number which may have been a different one years ago.

Here is the software I am talking about.
http://www.mitchell.com/auto-repair-shop-software/repair-mate-estimating.asp

 

[Video1]

You're right. A body shop would have software they use to write an auto body estimate. They use to use Mitchell's Manuals before software, but now everyone has upgrade to the computer age.

Just wanted to mention also, that sometimes parts numbers supersede to another number. It's like they discontinue a certain number. So we are also faced with that situation also of seeing a current part number which may have been a different one years ago.

Yeah, I mean the codes are out there but hell there is no underlying code, its to dam complicated for this dead guy. Even if you pulled all the code out its nothing. Its combined code, that's it.

Have a good night

Kris

 

[Me3]

I called the FBI lab at Quantico sic? two hours after this went up and left a voice mail telling them they needed a Nissan dealership and that it was not code.

Have not heard back from them and to be honest, I am just relieved as I have not stopped. Someone had to recognize this other than me, I saw it but the language was horrific and kept getting sidetracked trying to figure out what the FBI was doing tossing code up on the web.

They can't decode that. I need to adjust language a bit here and some of it is guess work as I am not in this guys shoes. But this guy seem to be employed, Ricky McCormick is not.

Best,

Kris

Fox News had a report last week where the FBI had been overwhelmed with tips and they reported that the automotive tip was one that they had found interesting (or something close to that). Wonder if Ricky could even drive? or if he owned a car? Maybe he took some type of car technical class in HS, prior to dropping out? Would be interesting to find out.

 

[Me3]

That's what I'm thinking, Soul. If some of the letter combinations have been found by the FBI in connection to a gang/auto theft ring operating now, it would explain their interest.

Auto theft rings, especially international auto theft rings, are a big deal today, and have been for at least 15-20 years or so. There was a major bust in Montreal just recently. I've known about car theft rings near Texas and NM selling cars to Mexican drug dealers, but something I learned last night is that Montreal is a major center for this kind of operation. Most of the cars are sold to big spenders overseas, mainly Arab countries.

Interesting that you mentioned Montreal...because what if it is both car notations and directions. What if the directions are to Canada. I kept looking at the stuff after 651 to see if I could come up with anything. MTL HTL....maybe suggest a hotel in MOntreal? Seems kind of far, though. Do we even know if Ricky could drive?

 

[Video1]

Fox News had a report last week where the FBI had been overwhelmed with tips and they reported that the automotive tip was one that they had found interesting (or something close to that). Wonder if Ricky could even drive? or if he owned a car? Maybe he took some type of car technical class in HS, prior to dropping out? Would be interesting to find out.

I have never met a street kid that could not drive, there are many street kids that like cars and these cars would fit perfectly for that application. I just cant imagine a street kid that could not drive a car.

There are probably omissions in the profile, maybe even a piece of misinformation is possible. I mean why when writing a 2 page note would I need to write page 1 on the top of the first?. There is more notes, the reason or possible reason for these two pages is that they might contain enough codes to act as a key for the other pages which they do not want to release.

Best,

Kris

 

[dotr]

Someone autistic or with Asbergers, who was into cars- to steal or otherwise, probably would have memorized the car's details...

 

[Video1]

One of the biggest problems that most will see is the fact that the profile says this man is unemployed. So he cannot work cause they say so.

There are possibilities for him working. He is collecting Social Security benefits, so he is not going to give them up by getting a job. but if he has interest in cars?.

He could be working in a dealership in a couple ways, the first way and most likely is on another Social security #. This would avoid his criminal record background and leave his benefits intact, and no one would know he is working but his friends. They said he was likable and sociable in some cases.

The second but unlikely scenario but it is possible, is that if he had any real talent or friends inside a dealership, they could have hired him and dump his pay on a friends payroll check. This would be really rare.

If you have talent as a tech, or if the dealership needs help bad enough, they will find a way to get you in. A little different today but it depends on that shop.

 

[Me3]

Someone autistic or with Asbergers, who was into cars- to steal or otherwise, probably would have memorized the car's details...

It took you posting this statement for me to really think about it and of all the two Autistic adults that I have known, you are correct. They can memorize boatloads of stuff...long groups of numbers. Coincidentally, neither two autistic adults drove or posessed a drivers licence (required too much coordination, which they didn't have). Would be nice if they told us his disability....maybe it is stricktly a heart and lung Social Security disability?

 

[Me3]

One of the biggest problems that most will see is the fact that the profile says this man is unemployed. So he cannot work cause they say so.

There are possibilities for him working. He is collecting Social Security benefits, so he is not going to give them up by getting a job. but if he has interest in cars?.

He could be working in a dealership in a couple ways, the first way and most likely is on another Social security #. This would avoid his criminal record background and leave his benefits intact, and no one would know he is working but his friends. They said he was likable and sociable in some cases.

The second but unlikely scenario but it is possible, is that if he had any real talent or friends inside a dealership, they could have hired him and dump his pay on a friends payroll check. This would be really rare.

If you have talent as a tech, or if the dealership needs help bad enough, they will find a way to get you in. A little different today but it depends on that shop.

Just tossing ideas around and raising questions....one of the articles http://www.sandiego.com/news/fbi-crru-seeks-coding-assistance-for-unsolved-murder-case mentions that he "had no car or transportation." Seems if he was that into cars that he would have had an old junk clunker of some kind. Have you ever known a car enthusiast that didn't have some type of transportation?

 

[grayjay]

I'm ok with crotch rocket and think that might be a more accepted term. In fact I've heard that on our scanner. LOL.

Since Ricky was on a disability in the articles linked on page 1 of this thread, he wasn't making much money legally, FWIW.

 

[dotr]

Just one possibility, thinking about a man who recently claimed to have figured out a code for the winning tickets in a scratch lottery.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...lottery-tickets-olg-110204?hub=TorontoNewHome
He won $3, and by the time he walked to the Petro-Canada near his office to claim the prize, he had a hunch about how the games were made.

If it worked the way he imagined, there would be a pattern of numbers on the face of the card that would allow someone to separate winners from losers, "not with certainty but with a pretty high degree of success," Srivastava said.

In the case of the Tic Tac Toe game, he said the trick hinged on where single numbers, rather than repeating ones, appeared on the unscratched card.

 

[RVM]

I wanted to post a quick note of agreement with Video1.

I too saw this code the day it was released. I felt that I could read it for some odd reason. The more I looked at it, the more familiar it felt. Then I realized that I was seeing car model and parts codes. That's been my hobby for the past... damn, nearly 20 years now. I'm a gearhead. I'm just an enthusiast and not someone who's worked professionally in a dealer, but the language was clearly there.

So I did a quick google of a few terms. NCBE returned some Nissan stuff. Other parts of the notes seem to be obvious automotive references. So I started thinking that it could be a page of shorthand from a random day of Ricky's life when he was working at a dealer. And then I found someone mentioning Nissan and mechanic work!

I registered last Friday and meant to post, but work got in the way. I think the mechanic angle makes the most sense. Car guys memorize acronyms and codes and spout them off constantly, as do mechanics. To a regular person, it looks (and sounds) like nonsense.

 

[dotr]

The Work
http://www2.fbi.gov/hq/lab/html/rrau1.htm
Cryptanalysis
Decrypt manual codes and ciphers found in letters, diaries, ledgers, and other types of written communications, records, and e-mails. Common users of codes ciphers include national and international terrorists, foreign intelligence agents, members, prison inmates, and violent criminals.

Racketeering Examinations
Examine and decode records from illicit businesses, such as loansharking, prostitution, sports bookmaking, and Internet gambling. Such violations are predicate offenses for RICO charges. Examinations may reveal the type of operation, dates of activity, wagering or loan amounts, types of wagers or loans, number and roles of participants, and accounting methods.
Drug Records Examinations
Examine and decode records pertaining to the type of operation, type of drug, quantity of drugs sold or purchased, unit prices, method of payment, transaction dates, roles of participants, gross and net profits, and operating expenses.

From the FBI site, thought I would post as a reminder the kinds of things they might be looking for.

 

[Video1]

Pr= Pair? SE= Seat, Trim, Package? RSE= Recaro seats?

Pr= Headlights SE-R, GXE, XE

RS= Part Brand?

HL= Halo??

LE= TRIM& LED Lights?

This is all builds with abbrev. used for multiple applications

 

[carbuff]

I wanted to post a quick note of agreement with Video1.

I too saw this code the day it was released. I felt that I could read it for some odd reason. The more I looked at it, the more familiar it felt. Then I realized that I was seeing car model and parts codes. That's been my hobby for the past... damn, nearly 20 years now. I'm a gearhead. I'm just an enthusiast and not someone who's worked professionally in a dealer, but the language was clearly there.

So I did a quick google of a few terms. NCBE returned some Nissan stuff. Other parts of the notes seem to be obvious automotive references. So I started thinking that it could be a page of shorthand from a random day of Ricky's life when he was working at a dealer. And then I found someone mentioning Nissan and mechanic work!

I registered last Friday and meant to post, but work got in the way. I think the mechanic angle makes the most sense. Car guys memorize acronyms and codes and spout them off constantly, as do mechanics. To a regular person, it looks (and sounds) like nonsense.

It seemed very familiar but not quite readable to me. My dad was a mechanic all his life -- still is, for that matter, even if he's not making a living at it -- and this is the kind of thing he had around him. (I'm more into the aesthetics than gear.)

The thing that gives me pause is that RM was apparently on disability and there's no indication he ever worked as a mechanic or anything else.

 

[Video1]

Just tossing ideas around and raising questions....one of the articles http://www.sandiego.com/news/fbi-crru-seeks-coding-assistance-for-unsolved-murder-case mentions that he "had no car or transportation." Seems if he was that into cars that he would have had an old junk clunker of some kind. Have you ever known a car enthusiast that didn't have some type of transportation?

Well?, not really but the autism like stated above may preclude driving but not enthusiasm. So a paraplegic may not drive but he could love Corvettes and may participate in another way, but his transportation would be a wheel chair.

K

 

[Video1]

I'm ok with crotch rocket and think that might be a more accepted term. In fact I've heard that on our scanner. LOL.

Since Ricky was on a disability in the articles linked on page 1 of this thread, he wasn't making much money legally, FWIW.

Maybe your right, it was a hip shot from my world of language, so crotch rocket is fine. But does not define the culture as well as far as this guys mentality and application. ;o)

 

[Video1]

The thing that gives me pause is that RM was apparently on disability and there's no indication he ever worked as a mechanic or anything else.

Check post # 458 for a possible explanation of that.

 

[Video1]

The Work
http://www2.fbi.gov/hq/lab/html/rrau1.htm
Cryptanalysis
Decrypt manual codes and ciphers found in letters, diaries, ledgers, and other types of written communications, records, and e-mails. Common users of codes ciphers include national and international terrorists, foreign intelligence agents, members, prison inmates, and violent criminals.

Racketeering Examinations
Examine and decode records from illicit businesses, such as loansharking, prostitution, sports bookmaking, and Internet gambling. Such violations are predicate offenses for RICO charges. Examinations may reveal the type of operation, dates of activity, wagering or loan amounts, types of wagers or loans, number and roles of participants, and accounting methods.
Drug Records Examinations
Examine and decode records pertaining to the type of operation, type of drug, quantity of drugs sold or purchased, unit prices, method of payment, transaction dates, roles of participants, gross and net profits, and operating expenses.

From the FBI site, thought I would post as a reminder the kinds of things they might be looking for.

Yeah, its really not hard to look at this as some kind of racketeering, but the problem is unless there is some large auto theft, parts thing here it would not really be efficient to build your codes this way. Racketeering is general a sport for the lazy really.

And to rule that out these very well may be broken down by individual build rather than lines of code, so there is your redundancy factor by code and abbreviations. If this guy were a runner for some kind of organization I am not sure he could do it.