MO MO - Ricky McCormick, 41, St Louis, 30 June 1999

[tamara]

I am not trying to disturb anybody's posts but what if we are looking at this from new angle, what if a guy was a serial killer ot rapist and the code is where he has droped off his bodies (sorry guys i am just an immigranat and trying my best). By the way all I wanted to say is please forgive my english but this is my perscpetive of the note.

 

[bessie]

i'm really confused here... why would the feds come to your house? what is a keurig machine?

what are k-cups? is that for coffee for the feds?...

Ha! The Keurig machine is a personal beverage maker. Flavored coffees, hot chocolate, etc, come in one serving k-cups you brew in the machine. So, if you like Brazilian roast and your spouse likes Hazelnut, you don't have to make a whole pot of one or the other. You each stick a k-cup of your choice in the machine each morning and everbody's happy.

 

[rosario]

tamara, that is the first thing I thought...

 

[chemcopout]

if rm had really written in codes since he was a child, would he consistently stick to the same codes and thus memorized how to write in them by heart? i would think we would have.

yet in these codes we have, many of the letters are as if someone wasn't sure on the their code and retraced over some letters to form another letter, as if they had to refer back to their key or made a mistake.

they are the darker letters, the ones that stand out on page 2, 3rd line down from the top for example,there is a "p w and then an r which originally may have been a t or something else.

some of the letters are written over forming another letter bolder than the rest, as if the person who wrote them had messed up the original letter, looked at their key, then changed the letter.

this bolder letter becoming letter pattern is through out the whole 2 different codes.

travis was internet savvy, he didn't think his killings got the attention he deserved. maybe he researched about the zodiac's code and got an idea.

also the code author wouldn't have been himself writing notes for himself, as the mess ups in the letters show that. someone writing a note to themself isn't going to go back over and correct their lettering. it's obvious the code is written for others to see (likely le) and was to get more attention for his killings.

he's also written in all caps, i don't see any lower case letters. writing in caps makes one's handwriting more clear (despite some of the code being messy) writing in caps could also be used to hide one's original handwriting style.

we know that travis was caught by the print out map he sent to le. traced right back to his house. he would have known not to leave fingerprints on the paper (past record) and he's mailed things to a judge asking for leniency. if thought his own handwriting style was unique he may have written in caps to disguise it.

if you look at the code, the E's through out it seem to have different strokes and styles, charactistics as if he is trying to hide his original handwriting.

this code was found before travis was caught and killed himself. he seemed to want attention for his heinous crimes, and probably thought he didn't get enough attention.

 

[Reannan]

Anytime, ME3. I'm not sure I agree with you about Ricky being familiar with Illinois, though. We don't know how far RM had travelled out of the St. Louis area.

SBM - Bessie, I had just read this:

"Authorities determined that McCormick had three addresses in the St. Louis area, including 1400 Choteau Avenue in St. Louis, and several Illinois addresses. "

http://coldcasesleuth.blogspot.com/2011/04/ricky-mccormick-mysterious-death.html

 

[UdbCrzy2]

I looked on casenet (missouri court records online) and this might be him. Ricky C. McCormick, DOB 1958 living on Pennsylvania Street, St. Louis, MO
https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/searchCases.do


In the docket of the rape crime reads:

MENTAL EXAM REQUESTED BY DEFENDANT ORDERED. EXAM TO BE PERFORMED ON AN INPATIENT BASIS AT ST LOUIS STATE HOSPITAL.

EVALUATION TO BE COMPLETED BY DR. MICHAEL ARMOUR. (EXAM ORDERED 04/22/93)

CT-01, RAPE - WEAPON OR INJURY - PRIOR OFF CHILD UNDER 14, (F).

**************************

While you are casenet - be sure to look up Vickie Young. Apparently she has children with Ricky and Charles.

 

[chemcopout]

Ha! The Keurig machine is a personal beverage maker. Flavored coffees, hot chocolate, etc, come in one serving k-cups you brew in the machine. So, if you like Brazilian roast and your spouse likes Hazelnut, you don't have to make a whole pot of one or the other. You each stick a k-cup of your choice in the machine each morning and everbody's happy.

lol bessie thank you for learning me on what a keurig machine! i had no idea..
the coffee flavors are endless it sounds like! you make me want coffee now lol

 

[chemcopout]

SBM - Bessie, I had just read this:

"Authorities determined that McCormick had three addresses in the St. Louis area, including 1400 Choteau Avenue in St. Louis, and several Illinois addresses. "

http://coldcasesleuth.blogspot.com/2011/04/ricky-mccormick-mysterious-death.html

i don't want to get ot here or anything, we know rm had a sexual assault on his record. would it be too far a leap to say he actually knew travis, and travis ended up killing him since he knew too much?

 

[Reannan]

i don't want to get ot here or anything, we know rm had a sexual assault on his record. would it be too far a leap to say he actually knew travis, and travis ended up killing him since he knew too much?

But if the note had been left by Travis or another serial killer, wouldn't they have made it more obvious??? It seems like a SK would have at least written something legible bragging about what they did - sort of like the letters BTK wrote. I agree that there must be more to this story than the FBI's desire to solve a puzzle that has bugged them for the last 12 years, and it sure seems like something more than pure chance that other bodies have been found in that same area.

 

[chemcopout]

Just FYI, I have been looking with all my paid programs, to find anything on his death, since the SSDI does not list him. DO WE KNOW HIS FIRST NAME WAS RICHARD? I was wondering if Ricky was short for Roderick or Frederick or Edrick, etc. I am not finding him that way either. Just wondering if we knew for certain it was RICHARD. Thanks!

paid programs or not, he still may not show up. my wife's brother passed in 97 and he doesn't show up in our program. yet my father and her great grandmother who passed respectively in 87 and 09 actually show up.

sometimes they reuse social security numbers. a detective told me this which kind of blew my mind. as for why some people show up and others don't it's anyone's guess.

i my guess as to the reason for this being that if ricky isn't showing up, it's likely he didn't own a house or land for very long if at all, or even have residence at one location for a long period of time.
my wife's brother lived pretty much almost off the grid, and he doesn't show up in the ss death index.
my father lived at his former address for decades almost and he shows up.

 

[bessie]

I have been thinking about what kind of 'secret code' Ricky could have learned about as a child that originally spurred his interest. Morse code came to my mind, so I went back and looked at the cypher pages again. There is no punctuation in the text except for some dashes, and a single apostrophe. Maybe the letters "SE" was Ricky's substitution for the "dots" in Morse code, and the other letters were simply placed there to seperate the "dots" from the "dashes". Does anyone know Morse code? Here is the "NOTES" page with all of the "SE" letters removed and a "dot" placed where they were:

ALPNTE GL.- ERTE
VL. MT.-CT.-W.-FRT.
PNRTR. ONDR.WLD NCBE
NWLDZLRCMSPNEWLDSTSMEXL
DULMT6TUN. NCBEXC
(MUNSAISTENMUNAR.)
KL.-LRSTE-TR.-TR.-MK.N-MR.
(SAE6N. . NMB.)
NMNRCBRN.PTE2PTEWSREBKN.
26ML.74SPRK.29KENOSOLE173RTR.
356LE CLG.OUNUTKEDKR. P.SHLE
651MTC.HTL.NCUTCTRS NMRE
99.84.5 5UNEPL.NCR.ADLT.NSK.NB.
NSREON. PVT.WLDNCBE (3XORL)
NM.NR.IN2NTRLERCBRN.NTSRCRBNE
LSPN.NGSP.MK.KB.PCBEAVXL’R
HMCRENMREFCBE 1/2MUNDPL.
D-W-M14HIL XDRLX

And here is each line with just the 'dots' and 'dashes':

.-
..-.-.-.
..

.
.
.--.-.-.-.
…
..
…
…
..
…….
..
…
….’
.
--

Ideas????

Interesting idea, Reannan. I don't know morse code, but I could look up a reference. The problem is the repetition of certain combinations makes me think they mean more than just random filler between dots and dashes. For instance, NCBE appears 18 times and WLD 11 times. Of those eleven instances, WLD precedes NCBE eight times. And then we have that one instance of <apostrophe s >following WLD. If your theory's correct, WLD and NCBE have to fit into it.

 

[Video1]

Anytime, ME3. I'm not sure I agree with you about Ricky being familiar with Illinois, though. We don't know how far RM had travelled out of the St. Louis area. Believe it or not, I know more than a few people who had never been farther than 30-40 miles outside of New Orleans until Katrina forced them to evancuate. RM didn't have much money, so I doubt he made many road trips. If he were planning a trip 355 miles away from home, I can see him looking at a map and noting key intersections.

I've also wondered if RM was smitten with a woman who lived in northern Illinois, or even Canada. A lady named WLD. He probably didn't have the means to actually make the trip, but he enjoyed daydreaming about it, planning for "one day". LE probably would've figured that out though, and realized his notes were insignificant.

Anyway, I didn't make it as far as Hwy 651 on my own little road trip last night. I'm going to dig around there later. I'm curious to see what you mean by "cut centers" of the lake. BTW, Canadian highways are measured in kilometers.

I put Cut Centers on another board and it was in my first translation. Its car language.

 

[bessie]

SBM - Bessie, I had just read this:

"Authorities determined that McCormick had three addresses in the St. Louis area, including 1400 Choteau Avenue in St. Louis, and several Illinois addresses. "

http://coldcasesleuth.blogspot.com/2011/04/ricky-mccormick-mysterious-death.html

Right, but Illinois is just across the river from St. Louis. I haven't mapped the addresses, but I think it was mentioned that they were in fairly close proximity to each other.

 

[Video1]

Here is another reference to cut centers that I just pulled, and first hit was Nissan which is what I keep hitting. http://caraudiomag.com/pictures/nissan-maxima-custom-center-stack-cut-center-0

There is another way to apply this to auto as well.

I am pretty sure or thought several short acronyms were easy and fit front to back from a tech position.

AL=alarm
CD= CD Player
CBE- Check breaks and fluids ( Engine )

There is what appears to be an internal trunk release install. This was most curious as around 99 or so they made these mandatory from the factory as kids were dying in trunks.

There a lot of this in there. It may be a stretch But TFRN could be turn but not for directions, Its a rotation, PE and SE could be Prep for service. These terms and more are continually repeated as if he is doing the same thing over and over and in the same order. There is a reason for that.

I have RCB as Return Car back and Enterprise Rental car, but while that is vague the term Aisle for where to put it. That is just too much. I mean after a few hours a blew through a whole workday of preps in the same order and proper order, and then installs intermixed. There has to be a mechanic in there somewhere.

 

[bessie]

I am not trying to disturb anybody's posts but what if we are looking at this from new angle, what if a guy was a serial killer ot rapist and the code is where he has droped off his bodies (sorry guys i am just an immigranat and trying my best). By the way all I wanted to say is please forgive my english but this is my perscpetive of the note.

Welcome to WS, Tamara! Those of us who think his notes include directions also suspect they involve some sort of criminal activity, and serial murder is a possibility.

Just want to add, I'm not set on any one theory yet, and am keeping my mind open to all angles.

 

[chemcopout]

But if the note had been left by Travis or another serial killer, wouldn't they have made it more obvious??? It seems like a SK would have at least written something legible bragging about what they did - sort of like the letters BTK wrote. I agree that there must be more to this story than the FBI's desire to solve a puzzle that has bugged them for the last 12 years, and it sure seems like something more than pure chance that other bodies have been found in that same area.

i guess that would depend on the serial killer as an individual. travis did send that tipand map to le. they had to catch him by tracing the computer generating map off a website. so it's likely he wanted anonymous attention for himself. he wouldn't want to be caught, as his worst fear was going back to prison.
he actually killed himself in a jail cell before le could question him more as he was so afraid of going back to prison.

travis' first prison experience didn't seem to go very well for him, as evidenced in the letters he wrote to the judge.

he did hint in the map and tip to le that he was real and there was more. yet due to his fear of prison, it seems he did what he could to cover up that it was him.

he would have prints on file, so i believe he would have been very careful not to get prints on the paper. otherwise le would have matched the prints to him. they had to catch him by the computer website generated map to his personal computer.

he was savvy enough to evade le for that long. had he not sent in a tip and map who knows when he would have been caught. yet it was the need for attention to be brought to him that made him send the tip and map in.
the attention would be anonymous, yet it still would be attention, and likely he would relish in the fact that he knew it was for him.

maybe the code was "safe" enough a "tip" for travis (if it's his) to leave for le yet still not give up who he was.

 

[bessie]

Here is another reference to cut centers that I just pulled, and first hit was Nissan which is what I keep hitting. http://caraudiomag.com/pictures/nissan-maxima-custom-center-stack-cut-center-0

There is another way to apply this to auto as well.

I am pretty sure or thought sever short acronyms were easy and fit front to back from a tech position.

AL=alarm
CD= CD Player
CBE- Check breaks and fluids ( Engine )

There is what appears to be an internal trunk release install. This was most curious as around 99 or so they made these mandatory from the factory as kids were dying in trunks.

There a lot of this in there.

Video, if the notes are car related, do you have any ideas about why LE would be interested? I mean, if RM was a mechanic or just liked to tinker with cars, LE would know that, and the FBI would've cracked the code in a jiffy. So there has to be something else.

 

[Video1]

Video, if the notes are car related, do you have any ideas about why LE would be interested? I mean, if RM was a mechanic or just liked to tinker with cars, LE would know that, and the FBI would've cracked the code in a jiffy. So there has to be something else.

LE is a trim package but I am using it as Lube, when this went up I immediately like many others saw things, but the codes are proprietary and mostly appear to be Nissan.

But Rental cars and used cars lingo is there, and I have a whole page or work orders in those notes.

I think we do not know everything, when they threw this out there was no profile, so not much to know about the guy. But I think they are on a serial killer, its just a question if the serial killer is dead or if this note system is linking up an investigation where they are looking for a live one.

If this is a live serial killer, he is a mechanic. I cant get off that no matter how much some of these other things may seem interesting.

Law enforcement may not have cracked this TFRN N LBE AND THEN PSE RCBRNSE That is work.

The second page looks like materials by code and in various formats but I do see 6 quarts of oil, his hand writing sucks and saw that written out several ways but believe its 5 weight motor oil. He is also taking 1/2 Monday but see that taken differently as well.

 

[Reannan]

I am still trying to figure out what kind of code Ricky would have invented as a kid.... I found a book published in 1963 called "Alvin's Secret Code" that actually gets really good reviews online. Anyone ever read it?

 

[Soulmagent]

I think it has to do with a large chop shop and gang related crimes that might included murder and extortion.

No need for a code if it was one serial killer. No need to know what the code is it is was one guy using it.

A chop shop would explain the FBI ,and directions in the paper, also would explain car codes. So maybe we should check out large chop shop bust in the area.

Rickys family may have made up the code since he was a kid thing if other family members were involved.