MO - Sherrill Levitt, 47, Suzie Streeter, 19, & Stacy McCall, 18, Springfield, 7 June 1992 #11

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

There’s many motives for Dusty and Riedel and others around them to want Suzie not to talk.

States don’t do extradition for two bit criminals. Riedel was coveted by cops for this case. He testified against because he just wanted to avoid trial. And the reasons why are open to interpretation.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Riedel was aware of who Suzie was. Don’t care what Mike says on the subject.

And most certainly aware of her when it was known she gave a witness statement to the cops. And it's definitely possible Joe Riedel was at a party Suzie was also at.

Dusty Recla dated the girl who lived with Steve Garrison. Dusty more than knew who Garrison was. He knew him a little better than a "bought weed off him once" situation.

Mike also dated a girl who was the daughter of a GGMC. These are circumstantial but make sense when you put the pieces together of Garrison's info that led to digs and why cops loved him so much.

 

[cherrymeg]

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Not being ruled out isn't the same as being a suspect or person of interest that police have named. Saying something like this is why they should have some say if they want. How many other people have willingly answered questions even while being treated like a suspect that knew these girls?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Not being ruled out isn't the same as being a suspect or person of interest that police have named. Saying something like this is why they should have some say if they want. How many other people have willingly answered questions even while being treated like a suspect that knew these girls?

Not many, that's why the grave robbers remain actual suspects/POIs.

They are literally suspects/POIs in this case. Allen Neal, Mark Webb, DA Moore, and Todd King all confirmed this in KY3/Crime Shows.

 

[Catmommy]

Two people can keep a secret if one is dead. I think only one is keeping this horrible secret.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Two people can keep a secret if one is dead. I think only one is keeping this horrible secret.

Many can keep secrets, especially if threats are used. (like FBI suggested was the case here)

See: Bible-Freeman case

 

[cherrymeg]

Two people can keep a secret if one is dead. I think only one is keeping this horrible secret.

It would be hard but mutually assured destruction is a motivator. I could see people rationalizing the coverup of a crime especially if they are family members. Also if didn't actually commit murder you can absolve yourself of being guilty.Look at the Lyon Sisters' case it involve relatives, some that participated maybe and some that ignored or denied what they saw or heard.
It's possible the person or persons that did this haven't been caught. Or haven't been caught for anything similar and have never been questioned or suspected in this case. This is one reason I don't think Dusty or Mike were involved. I don't think they would hold up under interrogation if they knew what happened. I don't think they are afraid of anyone now as some people have suggested expect for sleuthers taking their interest too far. I mean stalking their families.
I think people never interrogated about this case because they didn't stay in town or they weren't considered suspects at the time and don't need to use it to bargain their way out of a death sentence would have no reason to bring it up. Some killers like to go to grave or sit in jail knowing they have information and not share it.

 

[Scooby Doo 4U]

Many can keep secrets, especially if threats are used. (like FBI suggested was the case here)

See: Bible-Freeman case

That case is a classic example! I hope they find those poor girls some day. Suppose to have been thrown in a mine in Picher Oklahoma area, the latest word is, based on their on going investigation.
I wonder if something got out of had at the last party at the Joys......or with a group who had arrived later. Jk was said to pull up with a car full of people shortly after the girls made it back to Joys after the Hannover party was broken up. One of the girls at the Joy party, has definite facebook connections with at least two of the grave robbers. So it always made me wonder. They'd still have to get Sherrill. The whole "Hanging out that night" may have just been One Big Ruse". Were the Kirby's into any strange. Wonder how deep they investigated them. Were they into anything shady that they wouldn't have wanted the cops knowing about "Dealing"? Not accusing, just asking....... Because it seems strange to me that they had plans late, to sleep on pallets, they had plans to stay at Joys' but he said no...we assume based on what he said. And I still think JK's mother was giving her an alibi by stating that she heard exactly what the girls on the porch were talking about at 2am, on a warm June night, where the windows, would be most likely closed, because they had company and surely would have kicked the A/c on. And she states that she heard JK come into the house for the night. Seems too convenient.
I don't now? Any opinions?

 

[cherrymeg]

That case is a classic example! I hope they find those poor girls some day. Suppose to have been thrown in a mine in Picher Oklahoma area, the latest word is, based on their on going investigation.
I wonder if something got out of had at the last party at the Joys......or with a group who had arrived later. Jk was said to pull up with a car full of people shortly after the girls made it back to Joys after the Hannover party was broken up. One of the girls at the Joy party, has definite facebook connections with at least two of the grave robbers. So it always made me wonder. They'd still have to get Sherrill. The whole "Hanging out that night" may have just been One Big Ruse". Were the Kirby's into any strange. Wonder how deep they investigated them. Were they into anything shady that they wouldn't have wanted the cops knowing about "Dealing"? Not accusing, just asking....... Because it seems strange to me that they had plans late, to sleep on pallets, they had plans to stay at Joys' but he said no...we assume based on what he said. And I still think JK's mother was giving her an alibi by stating that she heard exactly what the girls on the porch were talking about at 2am, on a warm June night, where the windows, would be most likely closed, because they had company and surely would have kicked the A/c on. And she states that she heard JK come into the house for the night. Seems too convenient.
I don't now? Any opinions?

Janelle has been able to control the story since the morning she showed up at the Streeter/Levitt house. She seemed familiar with "the other girl"s home. She also knew the dog. I know Suzie and Sherrill had moved. Janelle seemed comfortable walking in the house and answering the phone. How did she know Sherrill wouldn't show up at any minute. Sherrill might have had clients calling or work calling. When you had one house phone no cell phones you wouldn't usually answer someone's home phone. It's always just seemed disrespectful or that Janelle was comfortable at that house because she was there a lot. To the point that Sherrill wouldn't have been surprised to find her sitting in her living room. I don't think Janelle has been 100% truthful. I think a lot of people hid small things that they didn't think mattered.
moo

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Much is made about the parties.

This was planned before those events took place. I don't see anyone in the parties having anything to do with this. And Springfield is a small-ish town so people are bound to be connected. Especially at a small high school at the time like Kickapoo.

The assistant chief of police cleared Janelle and the partygoers. So this is a fruitless exercise. Janelle and Mike don't have the criminal capability and know-how to pull this off. And they had an alibi, despite what papers say.

The cops were, however, into Garrison so much that they bonded him out of jail. Bonding out a 10k man (down to $2500 for police discount) and taking him to a hotel? Things that make you go hmmmmm

 

[cherrymeg]

Much is made about the parties.

This was planned before those events took place. I don't see anyone in the parties having anything to do with this. And Springfield is a small-ish town so people are bound to be connected. Especially at a small high school at the time like Kickapoo.

The assistant chief of police cleared Janelle and the partygoers. So this is a fruitless exercise. Janelle and Mike don't have the criminal capability and know-how to pull this off. And they had an alibi, despite what papers say.

The cops were, however, into Garrison so much that they bonded him out of jail. Bonding out a 10k man (down to $2500 for police discount) and taking him to a hotel? Things that make you go hmmmmm

At the time Janelle might not have been a suspect. Things change and they didn't clear every person at every party, or every person in town. Janelle set the timeline so if we look at her as knowing more than she claims that could change things. Her behavior was weird that morning like either she was worried or she already knew they were missing.
Maybe they caught a pervert drug dealer but not the pervert that killed these 3 women. Steve Garrison might have been someone they spent too much time on and didn't look for other suspects.

 

[cherrymeg]

The parties are important because retracing Suzie and Stacy's last steps matters. You can say this was planned but there isn't proof to support that anymore than there is proof saying it was unplanned. What they did that night is important.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

The parties are important because retracing Suzie and Stacy's last steps matters. You can say this was planned but there isn't proof to support that anymore than there is proof saying it was unplanned. What they did that night is important.

It's not to me. If you want to chase that lead, feel free.

What matters to me is the group that wanted Suzie, Sherrill, and eventually Stacy (since she showed up) quiet.

I lean on Famed profiler James Wright's profile of the perpetrators. If you've read about him and his work, you'd trust him too.

I believe this is solved and perps are known.

The SPD statement seemed to be wanting an old girlfriend to talk. For someone unaccounted for. Is that a grave robber's girlfriend? A grave robber criminal fringe person's girlfriend? Is that someone who was troubling Sherrill in the weeks leading up? My guess is, yes.

This person was unaccounted for. And no it isn't Mike Henson. I truly hope that some day we can move past the "Janelle is guilty" and parking garage theories.

 

[cherrymeg]

It's not to me. If you want to chase that lead, feel free.

What matters to me is the group that wanted Suzie, Sherrill, and eventually Stacy (since she showed up) quiet.

I lean on Famed profiler James Wright's profile of the perpetrators. If you've read about him and his work, you'd trust him too.

I believe this is solved and perps are known.

The SPD statement seemed to be wanting an old girlfriend to talk. For someone unaccounted for. Is that a grave robber's girlfriend? A grave robber criminal fringe person's girlfriend? Is that someone who was troubling Sherrill in the weeks leading up? My guess is, yes.

This person was unaccounted for. And no it isn't Mike Henson. I truly hope that some day we can move past the "Janelle is guilty" and parking garage theories.

It's not solved that's the problem. Your guess is as good as mine but more closed minded. Why not investigate angles that might have been ignored.

 

[cherrymeg]

Has anyone ever come across a case similar to this one?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

It's not solved that's the problem. Your guess is as good as mine but more closed minded. Why not investigate angles that might have been ignored.

Who says I haven't? I'm long past the angle of Mike and Janelle being teenage criminal masterminds on the fly. If you want to chase it, feel free.

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

What people need to ask themselves, since this is obviously not sexual assault motivated.

Who stood the most to lose if Suzie went to court? That's your perp.

 

[cherrymeg]

What people need to ask themselves, since this is obviously not sexual assault motivated.

Who stood the most to lose if Suzie went to court? That's your perp.

Her not going to court didn't affect anything. Charges didn't go away, guilty pleas were made and fines paid and all that.

 

[cherrymeg]

What things bug you most about this case?

 

[OzarksTrailBlazer]

Her not going to court didn't affect anything. Charges didn't go away, guilty pleas were made and fines paid and all that.

Garrison being such a coveted POI by Detective Thomas tells me someone of his ilk or even the fringe of him stood to lose out on a big money operation of sorts (likely drugs).

If Suzie was cross-examined in court and asked certain things about Joe or Dusty or Mike, it might shine light on something a certain person didn't want in the public domain. So silence needed to be ensured.

You cannot say her not going to court "didn't affect anything" when it may be the very reason her, her mother, and friend all died.

What information did Suzie and possibly Ms. Levitt have that someone needed to keep them silent over?