MO - The Shooting of teen Michael Brown *Media, Timelines Maps* No Discussion

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These are links to different views of the scene. (Mods- they are direct links to the images.)

http://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/mike-brown-cell-phone-TRS.jpg

http://media.jrn.com/images/660*411/b99332835z.1_20140818124710_000_gmd7g4o6.1-1.jpg


http://media.kmov.com/images/Coppercreek-scene-080914.jpg


http://img.opposingviews.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/350x250/featured_image/alts/081614/ferguson3.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/15/1408116848048_wps_9_DO_NOT_USE_Michael_Brown_.jpg


http://www.trbimg.com/img-53f07764/turbine/la-na-nn-video-michael-brown-20140816


http://images.dailykos.com/images/99824/large/ferg3_copy.jpg?1408031070
 
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In the interest of keeping stuff all together, I went through and pulled what I think are all of the Piaget Crenshaw interviews as well as her FB pages that have more from her.

Piaget Crenshaw:

Day of Shooting August 9, 2014

http://www.ksdk.com/videos/news/loca...8/13/14007133/

LA Times Interview August 10, 2014

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...ry.html#page=1

Local Fox affiliate interview--August 12, 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoQkToJOgQ

CNN Interview with Tiffany Mitchell--August 13, 2014

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advkpZIuq2U

CNN New Day Interview August 18, 2014

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...nshaw.cnn.html

Anderson Cooper Interview August 18th, 2014

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/1...michael-brown/

Videos Piaget Crenshaw took:

http://www.todayleak.com/2014/08/vid...over-his-body/

Piaget Crenshaw's FB Community page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Piage...92538637464592

Piaget Crenshaw's Personal FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/RisqueeP?fref=browse_search

Let me know if I am missing any and I will add.
 
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Below are Piaget's witness statements from the first three interviews I saw. I did my best to get her statements word for word, if there are inaccuracies, you have my word they are unintentional. I ask that those who continue to believe the witness accounts or base their belief the cop executed Mike to read her statements and my comments with an open mind. I know in some cases, I nitpicked, as I would expect a lawyer or juror to. I am not averse to being carved up on this forum, so have at it. If moderators feel any part of this violates TOS here, please feel free to adjust accordingly. I hope the formatting works, I have also included links (if they don't work for you, it's probably on your end) to the interviews and some other links below for context. Work is blowing up, as if Ferguson and these threads, and time is not a commodity, I had hoped to start this process days ago. I am way behind on the posts here, so if any of this is redundant, my apologies. I'm also sorry to post on my schedule which likely coincides with the live coverage of the sadness tonight. I have Tiffany's interviews transcribed, but it is far more lengthy and have not been evaluated in this fashion. Plus, I want to see if it's worth the time and effort to continue as things develop. So, with that, here it is.

8/9/14 KMOV interview in street http://fox2now.com/2014/08/09/man-shot-killed-in-ferguson-apartment-complex/




My thoughts: First paragraph, odd word choices marked in bold. Seems to be overselling this, sounds more activist than witness. Refers to they and them as if Wilson represents a group. Second paragraph, guess we know why she sounded more activist and referred to police as a group. Watch the eyes, sounds like she’s repeating talking points she’s heard. Already, racial accusations just hours after the shooting gives pause to whether there is already an angle being played. Two shots after Mike ran, Dorian Johnson said several.

8/11/14 MSNBC interview outside her apartment http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri



My thoughts: Repeats compliant, says shot in chest (autopsy showed no chest shots, Johnson’s account also mentioned chest). Timeline issue, question how she could see the same thing (the tussle) as Tiffany given the account below and the one Tiffany gives? Also curious how she sees the EXACT same thing as Tiffany even though she’s on the passenger side of car.

8/13/14 CNN Shared interview with Tiffany Mitchell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advkpZIuq2U

On whether Piaget was able to get a better look than Tiffany...



My thoughts: Tiffany drove up on the struggle, then pulled out her phone. Piaget says she saw this looking out the window when Tiffany called. Contradictory! Overselling “saw with my own eyes”. How did she see the conflict start?

In response to question of whether Brown was in the car…



My thoughts: Made sure to drive home outside of police car. Said shots when one is all I’ve seen or heard about.

In response to Piaget ever seeing Brown reach for officer’s gun…



My thoughts: She has difficulty seeing from her balcony, she’s on the opposite side of the car, but she knows he was outside of car (which she re-iterates again), and she can see the cop shot his gun carelessly through the glare of his front window? And how does one shoot a neighbor’s building on the opposite side of the car, especially when Johnson said the shot hit Mike? Has anyone seen anything about the bullet removal? The last line sounds like public service announcement.

Adding to Tiffany’s comments wondering why Mike was killed while fleeing…



My thoughts: Overkilled…sounds like she’s being coached to use certain terms for effect. Two, multiple, or several, depending on the witness.

On how far Mike ran…



My thoughts: By my estimation, it was a lot farther from Brown’s body to his hat in the street. Now I don’t expect her to be good with distance estimation, but look at Google Maps and estimate the distance.

On whether the first shot was inside the car…



Could you tell who fired that first shot…



My thoughts: THIS is confusing. You are watching this incident and grabbing your purse and changing window views and yet you give nearly the same account of things as Tiffany? Not to mention the brick wall that blocks nearly half the distance between Mike’s body and where the hat was (hat indicates loosely where the struggle was. Repeats shots again. Johnson said one shot.

Conclusion: I fail to see how this witness has any credibility and doubt seriously if she saw much, if any, of this. She sounds like she is passing along the story she was told. She’s watching the struggle supposedly as she’s talking on her phone, but fails to record the event, at least until it was over. I wonder if she did record it and it happened as the cop said and she deleted. There are way too many things in her statements that discredit her, she’s just not credible. Oh, and by the way, on CNN tonight, she indicated his arms never went up as the adjusted autopsy showed. Also curious why she never mentioned the cars that pulled up and were blocked that Mitchell and Johnson described in various different ways.

Supporting information...

Google maps - Search 2947 Canfield Dr. Ferguson, MO then click street view, gives great perspective when you click around to see the theater of the shooting. Note the brick wall that would block line of site to the middle half of the action area. The truck was approximately at the left driveway, the hat on the other side of the truck and Michaels body was lying straight out from the right brick column of the building. If you look at body, hat, approximate spot where the car would have been perpendicular to the street as Johnson described, you have a pretty good idea of the area this took place. The video in the last interview link gives some perspective to all this, as do some of the others that have been posted (like the oft posted video with the description that matches the cop's friend).

Photo of the hat and SUV (not Wilson's, but one in video - look at angle of truck) - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shot-dead-unarmed-teenager-Michael-Brown.html

Final thought - Tiffany Mitchell is a much better witness than her employee Piaget, but I think she too is just as impeachable as Piaget and Johnson. I'll also say that I am still not convinced of anything for certain as far as the shooting, I just fail to see the strength of the eyewitness testimony and that, plus a healthy dose of our social past, is the only thing everyone's angst with the cop is based on. Without it, the assumption of racial bias isn't enough to convict the cop, especially when not a single one of us have ever talked to the man or heard or seen him speak. Hard to judge people using clairvoyance.

All IMO to cover that rabbit!

Bringing over to media thread...
 
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ABC correspondent walks from store to shooting scene with local alderman who discusses his belief that MB should not have lain in the street for "five hours, close to five hours"

http://abcnews.go.com/video/embed?id=25013581
 
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Mr. Brown probably could not have been revived, and the time that his body lay in the street may ultimately have no bearing on the investigations into whether the shooting was justified. But local officials say that the image of Mr. Brown’s corpse in the open set the scene for what was to become a combustible worldwide story of police tactics and race in America, and left some of them asking why.

SNIP

For part of the time, Mr. Brown’s body lay in the open, allowing people to record it on their cellphones. A paramedic draped the body with a white sheet, but Mr. Brown’s feet remained exposed and blood could still be seen. The police later shielded the body with a low, six-panel orange partition typically used for car crashes.

Experts in policing said there was no standard for how long a body should remain on a scene, but they expressed surprise at how Mr. Brown’s body had been allowed to remain in public view.

SNIP

According to police logs, the county police received a report of the shooting at 12:07, and their officers began arriving around 12:15

Videos taken by bystanders show that in the first minutes after Mr. Brown’s death, officers quickly secured the area with yellow tape. In one video, several police cars were on the scene, and officers were standing close to their cars, a distance away from Mr. Brown’s body

Around 12:10, a paramedic who happened to be nearby on another call approached Mr. Brown’s body, checked for a pulse, and observed the blood and “injuries incompatible with life,” said his supervisor, Chris Cebollero, the chief of emergency medical services at Christian Hospital. He estimated it was around 12:15 when the paramedic got a sheet from an ambulance and covered Mr. Brown.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/u...ys-timeline-4-hours-on-a-ferguson-street.html
 
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http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/...20756803662?cid=sm_m_main_1_20140823_30274586

Michael Brady, a new eyewitness to the Michael Brown shooting, describes moments leading up to shooting. He gives those details to Lawrence O’Donnell.

Video...


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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-young-protesters-vow-continue-the-fight-michael-brown

Young protesters vow to continue the fight in Ferguson

The first photos of Michael Brown’s dead body lying in the middle of the street landed on Twitter within minutes after the 18-year-old was shot and killed, in broad daylight, at the hands of a police officer. The graphic images were still streaming down his timeline when Taurean Russell began making calls and organizing groups to the scene.

By the time Russell’s crew arrived at Canfield Green Apartments more than four hours later, tensions among the crowd had boiled over after authorities left Brown’s body lying in the street for the entire afternoon. There were eight other community organizers with Russell protesting the slain teen’s death. Within two hours, their numbers swelled to over 100.
 
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Eye Injury info from MSM

8/21/14 Prosecutors have not spoken to Darren Wilson yet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ecutors-have-not-spoken-to-darren-wilson-yet/

A family friend of Wilson’s told The Washington Post that Wilson suffered a fractured eye socket. Ferguson police have said that Wilson’s face was injured and he needed medical treatment, but they did not go into any detail. On Wednesday night, Ferguson Mayor James Knowles III told Fox News that he could not confirm reports that Wilson suffered a fractured eye bone.

8/21/14--CNN Contradicts Fox Sources Claiming Darren Wilson Had Fractured Eye Socket

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-cont...iming-darren-wilson-had-fractured-eye-socket/

8/20/14 Missouri cop was badly beaten before shooting Michael Brown, says source

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/08/2...en-before-shooting-michael-brown-says-source/

8/13/14--Police chief says officer in Missouri shooting was injured

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/13/us-usa-missouri-shooting-idUSKBN0GA0Q420140813
 
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ferguson-protests-peaceful-night-article-1.1913057

Missouri grand jury mulling Darren Wilson’s shooting of Michael Brown has 3 blacks, 9 whites

Nine whites and three blacks will decide whether to charge a Missouri cop with killing 18-year-old Michael Brown.

The breakdown of the St. Louis County grand jury weighing evidence against Officer Darren Wilson was released Friday by a state court judge.

Wilson is white. Brown was black. And outrage over the unarmed teen’s killing two weeks ago fueled violent demonstrations and looting in Ferguson, Mo.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/u...wilson-2-paths-to-a-fatal-encounter.html?_r=2

A Youth, an Officer and 2 Paths to a Fatal Encounter

Michael Brown let his 16th birthday come and go without bothering to apply for a driver’s license. There was no need, his family said. He preferred to walk.

In Ferguson, where Mr. Brown was living with his grandmother, he walked nearly everywhere: on Canfield Drive, where his grandmother kept a small apartment, and several blocks away on the bustling commercial strip of West Florissant Avenue, a four-lane road full of hair salons and cheap restaurants that is the de facto downtown of the neighborhood.

It was during one of Mr. Brown’s walks down Canfield Drive one week ago when he would have an unlikely collision. It involved Mr. Brown, a black teenager who seemed to have avoided most of the traps that dragged down many of his peers, and a white police officer, Darren Wilson, with an admirable record. When it was over, Mr. Brown was dead and Officer Wilson was facing an uncertain legal and professional future.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...c796f0-2a45-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

Darren Wilson’s first job was on a troubled police force disbanded by authorities

The small city of Jennings, Mo., had a police department so troubled, and with so much tension between white officers and black residents, that the city council finally decided to disband it. Everyone in the Jennings police department was fired. New officers were brought in to create a credible department from scratch.

That was three years ago. One of the officers who worked in that department, and lost his job along with everyone else, was a young man named Darren Wilson.
 
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ferguson-prepares-goodbye-michael-brown-memorial

Ferguson prepares to say goodbye to Mike Brown

For a community gripped by the death of Michael Brown, residents here are prepared to not only mourn for the loss of the 18-year-old, but also to say goodbye to him in his funeral Monday and vow to never forget what his sacrifice has meant.

After more than two weeks of protests, political wrangling over investigations and swarms of media coverage from around the world, the Brown family will be laying their son to rest after he was shot dead in the middle of the street by a police officer on Aug. 9.

Friendly Temple Missionary Baptist Church is bracing for thousands expected to join the services Monday morning, where scores of Brown’s extended family are set to join for the closed casket ceremony, along with several celebrities and high-profile attendees. Despite the expected spectacle, church members here expressed warmth toward the Brown family and conveyed a sense of honor that they would choose the church as a place to say goodbye to the teen.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/24/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews

White House sending 3 officials to Michael Brown's funeral

The White House is sending three officials to Michael Brown's funeral Monday, including one who attended high school with his mother.

Brown,18, was fatally shot on August 9 by officer Darren Wilson while walking down the streets of Ferguson, Missouri.

His death sparked days of violent protests in the St. Louis suburb. In the past three days, things have calmed down, and the town is slowly coming back to life.


The White House is sending three officials to Michael Brown's funeral Monday, including one who attended high school with his mother.

Brown,18, was fatally shot on August 9 by officer Darren Wilson while walking down the streets of Ferguson, Missouri.

His death sparked days of violent protests in the St. Louis suburb. In the past three days, things have calmed down, and the town is slowly coming back to life.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/22/us/ferguson-our-town/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

Residents: The raucous Ferguson seen on TV is not our Ferguson

The QuikTrip that's now in shambles, its iconic red awning a nest of twisted metal, was once a favorite stop for residents here.

The kids loved the slushies. The adults loved the doughnuts. And residents in the area say that before "the ruckus on West Florissant" -- in which looters and vandals parading as protesters mangled a primary corridor -- they could walk to QuikTrip at any hour with nary a concern for their safety.


http://www.stltoday.com/map-where-t...age_efedd981-8d91-556f-a5f3-b523832092ee.html

Map: Where Those Arrested in Ferguson Come From
 
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/michael-browns-future-cut-short?cid=sm_m_main_1_20140821_30217256

Michael Brown’s bright future, cut short

Michael Brown never made it to his first day of college. He never wore his student ID badge through the doors of the tech school here, never saw the syllabus outlining his first class. He had dreams of mastering a trade, becoming an electrician to heat and cool spaces. Maybe one day he’d even open up his own business.

Brown was just two days away from his first class at Vatterott College when he was shot dead by a police officer in the middle of the street. As the community roils over Brown’s death and his family mourns, students at the tech school Brown was supposed to attend are left wondering: Who could Mike Brown have been?


http://abcnews.go.com/US/fergusons-michael-brown-days-death/story?id=25077435

A Different Look at Ferguson's Michael Brown Just Days Before His Death

A different view of Michael Brown has emerged in a video that is starkly different from the images previously seen of the unarmed teenager who shot dead by police in Ferguson, Missouri.

Brown, 18, is seen waiting to join the procession of graduates for Normandy High School in early August, just days before his controversial death on Aug. 9. He is wearing the traditional black cap and gown with a red sash around his neck and the tassel hanging jauntily off the back of his mortarboard.
 
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...s-take-part-michael-brown-peace-rally-n187941

Trayvon Martin's Parents Take Part in Michael Brown Peace Rally

Michael Brown's family pleaded with protesters in Ferguson, Missouri, to take the day off Monday as they bury the teenager killed by a police officer more than two weeks ago. "All I want is peace while my son is being laid to rest," Michael Brown Sr. said at an anti-violence rally called Peacefest. "Can you please, please take a day of silence so we can lay our son to rest?"


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michael-brown-parents-reflect-on-their-loss/

Michael Brown's mom: "Nobody's child deserves to be treated like that"

"My son didn't deserve it. Nobody's child deserves to be treated like that - nobody's," said Lesley McSpadden, the teen's mother.

She and Michael Brown Sr. spent the day planning their son's funeral.

"I'm still dreaming a little bit. But, not getting a phone call for the last few weeks, so it's kind of coming to a sense of I am not going to hear that voice again," said Brown Sr.
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/u...on=Footer&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=article

Darren Wilson Was Low-Profile Officer With Unsettled Early Days

The intense focus on Officer Wilson’s actions — old and new — marks a jarring change for a man who, over most of his 28 years, had left a muted, barely noticeable trail behind. While protesters have marched nightly, a grand jury has begun hearing evidence, and supporters of the officer have raised more than $350,000 for him. Officer Wilson himself has vanished from public view, leaving his ranch home where letters on red, white and blue stars hung from a door spell out “Welcome” in a town southwest of St. Louis; he is believed to be under police protection.

Officer Wilson, who is divorced, was born in Texas but has spent most of his years in these suburbs that surround St. Louis, records show. Family members, friends, colleagues and a lawyer have mostly refused to speak publicly about him, yet those who do paint a portrait of a well-mannered, relatively soft-spoken, even bland person who seemed, if anything, to seek out a low profile — perhaps, some suggested, a reaction to a turbulent youth in which his mother was repeatedly divorced, convicted of financial crimes and died of natural causes before he finished high school in 2004.
 
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http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...at-Michael-Brown-funeral-today-272542421.html

Thousands expected at Michael Brown funeral today

The funeral is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. at the Friendly Temple Missionary Baptist Church at 5515 Martin Luther King Drive.

When the service ends, the funeral procession will head west on Dr. Martin Luther King Drive, then north on Lucas and Hunt to St. Peter’s Cemetery.



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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_d0130b1f-6952-5ef9-9a11-39564f5ced66.html

Mourners are gathering at a St. Louis church this morning for the funeral of 18-year-old Michael Brown, whose shooting death Aug. 9 by a police officer began nearly two weeks of unrest in Ferguson.


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http://www.ksdk.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2014/08/25/funeral-held-for-mike-brown/14557353/


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http://www.ksdk.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2014/08/25/funeral-held-for-mike-brown/14557353/
 
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http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...per-actually-escalating-things-271915931.html

Pastors: Man claiming to be peacekeeper actually escalating things in Ferguson

Many African American church leaders told News 4 a man pretending to spread messages of peace is actually escalating violence in Ferguson.

Pastors are pointing the finger at Malik Shabazz, the former leader of the New Black Panther Party, and many church leaders want him to leave Ferguson.

“I am upset with a certain group of them that are rebel rousers. We know them by name. Last night was the scariest night of my life,” said Pastor Mike Robinson.


http://www.kmov.com/special-coverag...wont-obey-local-police-anymore-272624961.html

Ferguson residents afraid many won’t obey local police anymore

Many citizens in Ferguson are fearful that residents in the area will not continue to obey local authorities once the Missouri Highway Patrol stops policing the area.

“My daughter goes to school over here and she is just now starting school today,” said Ferguson resident Leslie Pettiford. “I’m nervous about it. I’m hoping we can get past this, but I’m very nervous about that.”
 

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