Found Deceased MO - Toni Anderson, 20, North Kansas City, 15 Jan 2017 #4

[MaxManning]

In Kansas City that night and morning you would have Police, tow trucks and city crews out clearing the roads, not a good time to kidnap or rob someone. Less people just out driving and more of everyone I mentioned.

My impression is that she was lured to a location. If someone lures someone to a location for the purpose of kidnap or whatever, they don't have to worry about any of the police, tow trucks, city crews etc. They obviously would have chosen a location away from possible sighting.

I'd be investing some time into North of 152 and West of 435. I don't know how many cameras exist in KC area, but I'd certainly be looking for any indication of her going in either of those directions. The first few days after she went missing would have been the right time to have been asking people if they had seen her vehicles in those areas, while it was fresh in their minds.

The idea that the car is/was in KC still, isn't a given in my mind. If this was snitch related, she was likely lured to a more secluded area, such as what I have pointed out. I think bodies of water are likely reasonable places, however the areas I pointed out are secluded enough that a car might not be found for quite some time even if not in a body of water.

 

[BaileyC]

My impression is that she was lured to a location. If someone lures someone to a location for the purpose of kidnap or whatever, they don't have to worry about any of the police, tow trucks, city crews etc. They obviously would have chosen a location away from possible sighting.

I'd be investing some time into North of 152 and West of 435. I don't know how many cameras exist in KC area, but I'd certainly be looking for any indication of her going in either of those directions. The first few days after she went missing would have been the right time to have been asking people if they had seen her vehicles in those areas, while it was fresh in their minds.

The idea that the car is/was in KC still, isn't a given in my mind. If this was snitch related, she was likely lured to a more secluded area, such as what I have pointed out. I think bodies of water are likely reasonable places, however the areas I pointed out are secluded enough that a car might not be found for quite some time even if not in a body of water.

I agree with you that this would not have been random but planned. You would think if it was something to do with drugs it would have to be narcotics and a lot of money involved. Like some have said, the Human Trafficking idea just doesn't sound reasonable for someone like Toni who has friends and relatives who would search for her and recognize her. I would think if it is something to do with drugs LE will figure out what happened to Toni. I can't imagine Pete Jr. not having an idea of what happened if it is drugs. Hopefully we'll know more soon.
Guess it could have to do with prostitution, the girls at the strip club and someone stealing another gals customers.
Killing someone though, wow.

 

[sophie taylor]

I'm sorry, I said the blinker thing wrong.....I see her turning on her right blinker to get onto Burlington south to then immediately turn left blinker to get onto 26th east (to go to QT).

One problem with south Burlington is the third car, which is able to move out of frame on the left side. It doesn't seem possible if it was behind the cop on the south side. Toni's headlights would be coming toward the camera, but are moving away or at least cutting across.

 

[Deleted member 155000]

I agree with you that this would not have been random but planned. You would think if it was something to do with drugs it would have to be narcotics and a lot of money involved. Like some have said, the Human Trafficking idea just doesn't sound reasonable for someone like Toni who has friends and relatives who would search for her and recognize her. I would think if it is something to do with drugs LE will figure out what happened to Toni. I can't imagine Pete Jr. not having an idea of what happened if it is drugs. Hopefully we'll know more soon.
Guess it could have to do with prostitution, the girls at the strip club and someone stealing another gals customers.
Killing someone though, wow.

I agree that some elements of this were planned. My gut has always been that it involves an encounter with a strip club or escort customer or someone looking for similar services.

I wonder if that person lured Toni into being the victim of a crime purposefully...or whether there was an accidental overdose or death that was covered up.

I would be so happy to hear if she was someday found alive, but at her age and based on what I read from her social media accounts, I do not believe she planned her own disappearance and left. If some other information came out that suggested she knew she was in danger or had been terribly abused or something, I would reconsider this, but for now--based on what I know--I think she is a vulnerable young woman who fell into the wrong hands.

I pray for a miracle.

 

[sophie taylor]

Toni tweeted "OMG just just pulled over again," and then just disappeared. Isn't that cause for concern? Her friends were very concerned very early on. The early gofundme just isn't an issue. It's a bit of a peeve of mine how people always obsess about the gofundme in these cases.

Here's another friend that was going to start one on day 2.

[video=twitter;821547411076169728]https://twitter.com/_ZVBO_/status/821547411076169728[/video]

This is the 64 thousand dollar question. Why haven't the police taken Toni's words seriously. Who are they or anyone to claim she didn't mean what she texted to her friend? Since she already knew the outcome of the traffic stop, she could not have been surprised or believed it was happening at that moment. If she didn't read the text at 453 (as you claimed) that is very bad news and would support something bad did happen between these two texts.

 

[AceDetective]

The police have so much more info than we do. The fact that they continue to investigate is concerning to me.

I really hope this Crime Watch Daily show provides us with some answers. I would dearly love to know, for example, whether or not it was normal for her to pull the tracking device. If she has never pulled it before, then obviously this is voluntary. If it was a regular thing, then anything could have happened.

 

[sophie taylor]

I found out the guy's name who texted her at 453. She and him texted several times but those were two hours earlier. IDK when those ended but it appears she only sent one text after 4am.

 

[policyoftruth501]

I completely agree with AceDetective on the information connected with this case. The reason why the debates on this thread never go anywhere or answer any questions is because what has been released isn't enough to figure out what actually happened.

I have no doubt that there is, at the very least, even just trivial evidence that LE has obtained. But the more likely possibility is that LE has significant information and in order to preserve the information, keep from tipping off the perpetrator, and to maintain the possibility of solving the case at some point this information will not be released. The public will only be made aware of this evidence once LE has gathered enough information to make their case and convince the DA the case can be taken to trial and won.


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[heartgoesout]

I found out the guy's name who texted her at 453. She and him texted several times but those were two hours earlier. IDK when those ended but it appears she only sent one text after 4am.

Do tell.

 

[heartgoesout]

I'm still not convinced she removed the insurance device.

 

[sophie taylor]

The police have so much more info than we do. The fact that they continue to investigate is concerning to me.

I really hope this Crime Watch Daily show provides us with some answers. I would dearly love to know, for example, whether or not it was normal for her to pull the tracking device. If she has never pulled it before, then obviously this is voluntary. If it was a regular thing, then anything could have happened.

If the cops pulled over Toni in the normal way, then why drive across the street, do a u-turn and finally turn the lights on behind her? That surely doesn't sound like a typical traffic stop. It sounds like she was standing idle (before they even came across Burlington) and they were suspicious of what she was doing on a dead end street at four-thirty in the morning.

I'm not gonna say his name but the source is good. I will ask further on the time of texts, but she knew him and bought weed from him. It sounds like the auto body shop was creepily placed especially at night.

Hopefully, in the not too distant future a PI will release information we all want to know, so long as it doesn't tip off a POI.

 

[policyoftruth501]

Do tell.

Is releasing that name okay under the rules for WS since this person (as far as we know so far) isn't a suspect and the name has never been released on MSM?


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[PokeyMeansBusiness]

New article reveals more information. I think LE are reading my posts here on Websleuths, especially with the Parkville MO-9 route theory (MOO).

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article136092253.html

Caldwell said they’ve found nothing to support the human trafficking theory, but “anything is possible,” he said.

IMO - cops are extremely doubtful on the human trafficking theory.

Anderson tried to pay for gas at the pump, but her debit card was declined. She went inside to pay, came out and filled up her gas tank. All of this was captured on the store’s video surveillance camera, Caldwell said.

Interesting - According to this article, her card was declined at the pump. No reference to an ATM although it doesn't say she didn't try the ATM.

At 4:42 a.m., Anderson sent a friend a text message from the QuikTrip parking lot: “OMG OMG just got pulled over again.”

For some reason, Anderson remained at QuikTrip until 4:49 a.m. and then drove north to parts unknown, Caldwell said.

She sent the text at 4:42 saying she had gotten pulled over again and she stayed at the QuikTrip until 4:49am. This debunks the theory that her text meant she got pulled over twice. She was at QuikTrip that whole time. IMO she was probably viewing Google Maps to navigate on how to get somewhere. This also states that she drove north to parks unknown. This could be up to Parkville to use an ATM for Commerce or Bank of the West.

The first — and most likely — theory is that she was involved in a traffic accident, and authorities have yet to find the location. Anderson worked late that night, and the inclement weather created icy roads. Investigators know that Anderson was driving in an unfamiliar area.

“Fatigue, bad weather lends itself to the possibility of a traffic accident, like running off the roadway,” said Sgt. Ben Caldwell, a supervisor with the Police Department’s missing persons, cold case section. “That is still probably our strongest possibility at this point.”

This is my currently theory and I have been posting this for a while now on this forum.

Investigators think Anderson traveled westbound along the Missouri 9 corridor between Kansas City and Parkville. She remained in that area until 6 a.m.

This is what I posted earlier this week. The exact route she would have taken to Parkville to use an ATM. I will admit that I do find the wording a bit curious: "She remained in that area until 6am". What happened after that? Did she leave the area after that? I believe I remember hearing that her cell phone did not leave the network until 9pm Sunday.

 

[AceDetective]

So there you go... "News that Toni Anderson worked as a server at a strip club was a surprise but not a total disappointment to her parents."

That should settle that debate. Also, it also sounds highly unlikely that the last ping was in Parkville.

Always nice when a new story contradicts an old story, isn't it? A previous story made it sound like they've ruled out a wreck, this one makes it a leading theory.

And the ATM... just when I change my long-held theory about her using the debit card at the pump, we find out she used her debit card at the pump. Okay then.

So... this sure looks voluntary, doesn't it? She pulls her tracking device, and then head into the sticks. Has to be voluntary.


link: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article136092253.html

 

[AceDetective]

"While not ruling out foul play, Kansas City police think that around 6 a.m. Jan. 15, Toni Anderson likely wrecked her black 2014 Ford Focus on some rural, desolate roadway."

I'm going to assume that her phone disconnected around that time. Why else would they pick 6 AM? This also contradicts what we were previously told, that it worked until 9 PM. In fact, this matches the time given on the group, but on a different day. Strange. (Rumor in the group was 6 AM Monday)

One piece of info we still need: where was the last ping? If I were the family, I would want that last ping and I would search that area. Wouldn't anybody?

I do not agree with their assessment about this being a wreck.

We can see now why the boyfriend is ruled out. And this eliminates that whole J story from consideration also. Really, the only possibility of foul play at this point is a car jacking.

However, she pulled the tracking device. Huge clue right there. She then drove out into the sticks. This has to be voluntary. She didn't just happen to crash after pulling her tracking device and driving out into the sticks. This was a deliberate act.

 

[Jerrod]

So there you go... "News that Toni Anderson worked as a server at a strip club was a surprise but not a total disappointment to her parents."

That should settle that debate. Also, it also sounds highly unlikely that the last ping was in Parkville.

Always nice when a new story contradicts an old story, isn't it? A previous story made it sound like they've ruled out a wreck, this one makes it a leading theory.

And the ATM... just when I change my long-held theory about her using the debit card at the pump, we find out she used her debit card at the pump. Okay then.

So... this sure looks voluntary, doesn't it? She pulls her tracking device, and then head into the sticks. Has to be voluntary.

link: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article136092253.html

Especially when considering this:

 

[AceDetective]

I mean, think about it. She voluntarily pulls her tracking device. She voluntarily heads north, far away, for reasons nobody knows about. Then she just happens to have a wreck? It possible, I suppose. It just seems more likely that her actions show she is deliberately leaving town, doesn't it? Unless she was known to blow off plans to meet up with her friends and head out on long car rides...

I would love to know where that last ping was. How far did she get in that hour and a half before she presumably turned off her phone.

And don't the people who were critical of the parents and friends for not looking around Kansas City feel dumb now? They should.

 

[KMD_KC]

"While not ruling out foul play, Kansas City police think that around 6 a.m. Jan. 15, Toni Anderson likely wrecked her black 2014 Ford Focus on some rural, desolate roadway."

I'm going to assume that her phone disconnected around that time. Why else would they pick 6 AM? This also contradicts what we were previously told, that it worked until 9 PM. In fact, this matches the time given on the group, but on a different day. Strange. (Rumor in the group was 6 AM Monday)

One piece of info we still need: where was the last ping? If I were the family, I would want that last ping and I would search that area. Wouldn't anybody?

I do not agree with their assessment about this being a wreck.

We can see now why the boyfriend is ruled out. And this eliminates that whole J story from consideration also. Really, the only possibility of foul play at this point is a car jacking.

However, she pulled the tracking device. Huge clue right there. She then drove out into the sticks. This has to be voluntary. She didn't just happen to crash after pulling her tracking device and driving out into the sticks. This was a deliberate act.

I don't agree with wreck scenario either. I also don't think she disappeared on her own. That whole article made me even more confused. Why now just release this info or confirm times? Odd...

 

[AceDetective]

I don't agree with wreck scenario either. I also don't think she disappeared on her own. That whole article made me even more confused. Why now just release this info or confirm times? Odd...

Exactly. Why wait 47 freaking days to announce that she left town? And why hasn't the last ping location been provided to family and friends so they can search the area? Plenty of people who have had a wreck have been found by family and friends. This is ridiculous!

 

[Hraefn]

We do not know that she pulled out the tracking device.