Modern Family's Ariel Winter, 14, 'removed from home amid allegations of abuse'

[Elphaba]

TMZ is now reporting that sources on the 'Modern Family' set are saying that the mother was horrible and that some wanted her banned from the set... that they were even sneaking the child food when the mother would withhold food from her. Again, it sounds like she was an out-of-control stage parent. It happens... I mean, look at the Culkins... Kit was a horror... in the last Macaulay interview I read, he made it very clear that he abhors the man.

 

[gitana1]

They write: 'We're told Chrystal had her own director's chair and listened to each take on her headphones. After each take, Chrystal would pull Ariel aside to tell her what she did wrong.'

It's also claimed that Chrystal was open with her criticism of the directors and producers too.

She's also alleged to have made use of the production assistants, ordering them to 'fetch her food from Craft Services.'

But while the source insists that Chrystal was over-bearing and controlling - she apparently wouldn't allow Ariel to leave her side to socialise with the other child actors - they never witnessed any abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...stage-mom-constantly-criticised-daughter.html



Some of the above is kind of unfair and misleading imo. My daughter was an actress, and as her legal guardian, I was not allowed to leave her sight. We were always given a production assistant whose job it was to 'fetch' our food from craft services. And I was given my own director's chair as well. They would much rather have people sitting quietly and still during the filming. And a minor's guardian NEEDS to be up front and center, for legal reasons.

I also listened with headphones occasionally, as did many others on set. I did not take my kid aside to 'tell her what she did wrong.' But we did huddle together between takes quite often. Sometimes I did correct things that I overheard the directors or producers commenting upon. I think that is a parent's job.

I was careful not to openly criticize the directors or producers, especially on set. So maybe Crystal was more rude or overbearing. But often the directors deserve some criticism, imo. Sometimes the change the lines at the last minute, after your kid spent the previous evening learning pages of dialogue. Or they change the shooting schedule, upsetting your kids sleep schedule, which makes them cranky.

Anyhow, much of what is written above just sounds like gossip and rumor that is circulated by the crew. I tried to be very nice to the crew as it is better in the end to make friends on location. But there are always a few people who can talk smack about you.

I also think that many 14 yr old tv 'stars' get a warped view of themselves. Once you get people asking for your autograph, and you routinely get driven to the set by a driver in a big black car, and you have a crew of people waiting on you, 24/7, it is hard to keep a balanced view.

I do think it is possible that she did not want her mom to have any say anymore and she may have wanted freedom to live with her 18 yr old boyfriend and do what she pleased. JMO

I see your point. But, this woman had her other daughter taken away and put in foster care for two years. That's not something that happens easily.

 

[peeples]

Judge rules that Ariel stays in sisters care

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...odern-Family-actress-remain-sisters-care.html

 

[Ausgirl]

Hopefully her sister won't agree to the 18-yo boyfriend, either.

 

[tlcya]

If he even exists.

 

[katydid23]

If he even exists.

He exists. He is another child actor and they spend quite a bit of time together.
She wants to move in with him.

I am afraid that the sister is the one wanting to get control of the bank account. I have seen it happen.

 

[kimpage]

He exists. He is another child actor and they spend quite a bit of time together.
She wants to move in with him.

I am afraid that the sister is the one wanting to get control of the bank account. I have seen it happen.

No that is not true..The sister told the court she didnt want access to the money.And Ariel and her boyfriend broke up months ago....This was on TMZ website and an entertainment show..


JMO

 

[gitana1]

He exists. He is another child actor and they spend quite a bit of time together.
She wants to move in with him.

I am afraid that the sister is the one wanting to get control of the bank account. I have seen it happen.

First of all, the sister's request for guardianship specifically asked that Ariel's money be off limits to anyone, herself included. So clearly she is not after Ariel's bank account. Second, yes, we know there was some boy Ariel was hanging out with but we do not know that "they spend quite a bit of time together" or that she wants to move in with him. That's an assumption.

Third, her mommy dearest made no allegations that they were having sex until after Ariel was removed from her home. Fourth, have you seen the other speaking to reporters? Have you seen how eager she is to talk about this situation publicly? Have you heard a peep from Shanelle? Also, what parent calls their kid's attorney a moron, in open court, in front of the judge?

Finally, why are you accusing Shanelle of possibly doing this to control Ariel's money when Shanelle has a job and apparently an income from her husband as well, while the mother clearly lives off Ariel, Shanelle asked that Ariel's accounts be frozen and no one allowed to access them and Shanelle herself was taken into foster care for two years due to her mother's abuse? The court, now three times at least, has determined that allegations were serious enough to take this woman's children from her. Shanelle has no such history. I mean, I'm confused why she's the one suspected of dirty dealing by you when mom is the one with the dirty closet.

 

[katydid23]

First of all, the sister's request for guardianship specifically asked that Ariel's money be off limits to anyone, herself included. So clearly she is not after Ariel's bank account. Second, yes, we know there was some boy Ariel was hanging out with but we do not know that "they spend quite a bit of time together" or that she wants to move in with him. That's an assumption.

Third, her mommy dearest made no allegations that they were having sex until after Ariel was removed from her home. Fourth, have you seen the other speaking to reporters? Have you seen how eager she is to talk about this situation publicly? Have you heard a peep from Shanelle? Also, what parent calls their kid's attorney a moron, in open court, in front of the judge?

Finally, why are you accusing Shanelle of possibly doing this to control Ariel's money when Shanelle has a job and apparently an income from her husband as well, while the mother clearly lives off Ariel, Shanelle asked that Ariel's accounts be frozen and no one allowed to access them and Shanelle herself was taken into foster care for two years due to her mother's abuse? The court, now three times at least, has determined that allegations were serious enough to take this woman's children from her. Shanelle has no such history. I mean, I'm confused why she's the one suspected of dirty dealing by you when mom is the one with the dirty closet.

I guess I am just a bit defensive about some of the things automatically said about stage moms and momagers, having been one myself.

For example, saying that this mom ' lived off her kid.' It is kind of a catch-22. Your child CANNOT work in the business unless you quit your own job. I had to quit mine in order for my daughter to have her own successful career. And I put a whole lot of $ into her dream before she began making a salary herself.

And she needed to go to classes and auditions and tapings and I had to be there for each one, the entire time. And when she booked a job, I needed to be there on set and watching her the entire time. I was paid per diem while on set and a salary when she was in films. Also I got 10% as her manager. So for someone to say I was ' living off her' would be kind of insulting, imo. I was doing a necessary job. Without me and my personal and financial sacrifices, she would never have been working herself. So I do defend this mom because it might have been the same way with her as well.

You may be right. This woman may be nuts. She may be evil. I am not sure. But I do think it is unfair to automatically assume that she is evil and her girls are angels. Her older daughter declared bankruptcy at one time and has a spotty financial history. Her own brother accused her of wanting control of the money. So there is some possibility that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Just because the older sis did not yet ask for any financial control, that does not mean she is not looking at it in the future. If she retains custody, she will be accessing some of that cash. And the child makes 75 grand a week.

The issue, imo, is the way these kinds of starring sitcom roles can make a child become kind of crazy and out of control.I know everyone is assuming it is the mom who is out of control. But as time goes on, it may unfold differently than what we now believe.

I could be wrong. But I am defending her against some of the things that I believe are unfair in the accusations I see being thrown at the mom. JMO

 

[katydid23]

No that is not true..The sister told the court she didnt want access to the money.And Ariel and her boyfriend broke up months ago....This was on TMZ website and an entertainment show..


JMO

They only 'broke up' for the public. They are still together from what I have heard.

And of course the sister said she didn't want access to the $. But if she becomes the legal guardian, she will have access to the bank account.

 

[tlcya]

I guess I am just a bit defensive about some of the things automatically said about stage moms and momagers, having been one myself.

For example, saying that this mom ' lived off her kid.' It is kind of a catch-22. Your child CANNOT work in the business unless you quit your own job. I had to quit mine in order for my daughter to have her own successful career. And I put a whole lot of $ into her dream before she began making a salary herself.

And she needed to go to classes and auditions and tapings and I had to be there for each one, the entire time. And when she booked a job, I needed to be there on set and watching her the entire time. I was paid per diem while on set and a salary when she was in films. Also I got 10% as her manager. So for someone to say I was ' living off her' would be kind of insulting, imo. I was doing a necessary job. Without me and my personal and financial sacrifices, she would never have been working herself. So I do defend this mom because it might have been the same way with her as well.

You may be right. This woman may be nuts. She may be evil. I am not sure. But I do think it is unfair to automatically assume that she is evil and her girls are angels. Her older daughter declared bankruptcy at one time and has a spotty financial history. Her own brother accused her of wanting control of the money. So there is some possibility that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Just because the older sis did not yet ask for any financial control, that does not mean she is not looking at it in the future. If she retains custody, she will be accessing some of that cash. And the child makes 75 grand a week.

The issue, imo, is the way these kinds of starring sitcom roles can make a child become kind of crazy and out of control.I know everyone is assuming it is the mom who is out of control. But as time goes on, it may unfold differently than what we now believe.

I could be wrong. But I am defending her against some of the things that I believe are unfair in the accusations I see being thrown at the mom. JMO

I think you are, because of your own experiences within the industry with steroetyping of "stage mothers", personalizing the accusations against this particular industry mom. You are able to be more empahetic with the mom because of your own unique perspective.

I appreciate you perspective but tend to feel as Gitana does about this particular case.