Moorers' Bond Hearing - #2

[Schmaley]

The DNA was found in heathers vehicle. No DNA found in connection with moorers belongings. Of course DNA of heathers would be in her car or apt.

 

[SStarr33]

Is this saying Dennis's term is up mid-June?

https://legiscan.com/SC/text/H3028/2015

If so, they need to try to get the date moved.

 

[Schmaley]

SStarr- interesting to read that. I am not convinced it was a bias ruling though. I am convinced this arrest was a serious injustice for Heather. Her family deserves to know what happened and narrowing the focus so quickly and making sloppy errors is simply unfair to this family.

 

[bestill]

The DNA was found in heathers vehicle. No DNA found in connection with moorers belongings. Of course DNA of heathers would be in her car or apt.

BBM - Do you have link to this? I missed it. Thanks.

 

[Schmaley]

It was said at the hearing wasn't it?

 

[SStarr33]

SStarr- interesting to read that. I am not convinced it was a bias ruling though. I am convinced this arrest was a serious injustice for Heather. Her family deserves to know what happened and narrowing the focus so quickly and making sloppy errors is simply unfair to this family.

I think the arrest was fine based on what we had before and if they just found out about the DNA, it is understandable. I want to get to the bottom of Elder's potential lying about the FBI.

 

[bestill]

It was said at the hearing wasn't it?

I don't know. I remember the defense saying that there were mistakes with the DNA in SM's truck, but I don't remember hearing that there is no DNA. Another reason I wanted the state to continue speaking without all of the judges interruptions. I guess I need to watch the hearing again.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

I'm confused, is there no dna or was the lab error no Heather's dna in SM's truck?

No DNA from HE in SM's truck.

The lab mistakingly said DNA was from SM's truck when in fact it was from HE's car.

During the two-hour long hearing, the attorney for Sidney Moorer, Kirk Truslow, said that new information obtained since the last bond hearing showed that mistakes were made by the lab that determined that Heather Elvis's DNA was found in Sidney Moorer's truck.

http://www.carolinalive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1156826#.VM5PemTF-uY

 

[TTF14]

I think the circumstantial evidence against SM is very, very strong. He's on record completely lying about contact with her that night, yet he's on video. There are calls to/from HIS phone.

I think a conviction of SM is possible based on this. But not TM unless there's some evidence that ties her to it we don't know about.

I absolutely do not believe for a second there's some other person out there responsible for HE's disappearance. But I think LE botched this investigation BIG time.

 

[TTF14]

I don't know. I remember the defense saying that there were mistakes with the DNA in SM's truck, but I don't remember hearing that there is no DNA. Another reason I wanted the state to continue speaking without all of the judges interruptions. I guess I need to watch the hearing again.

I'd really like to hear what was found at the house that gave them enough to get an arrest warrant! No mention was made of that at all at the hearing, was it?

 

[bestill]

I think this was posted yesterday by PeterThomasFan...

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
Forensic evidence[edit]
Other examples of circumstantial evidence are fingerprint, blood analysis or DNA analysis of the evidence found at the scene of a crime. These types of evidence may strongly point to a certain conclusion when taken into consideration with other facts—but if not directly witnessed by someone when the crime was committed, they are still considered circumstantial. However, when proved by expert witnesses, they are usually sufficient to decide a case, especially in the absence of any direct evidence. Owing to developments in forensic methods, old undecided cases (or cold cases) are frequently resolved.

 

[SStarr33]

I'd really like to hear what was found at the house that gave them enough to get an arrest warrant! No mention was made of that at all at the hearing, was it?

She mentioned the texts they deleted from the phones were found on a computer that had been backed up to the phone. I think that was the major house evidence along with TMs stalker info she had compiled on the Elvis's.

 

[Eileen730]

I don't know. I remember the defense saying that there were mistakes with the DNA in SM's truck, but I don't remember hearing that there is no DNA. Another reason I wanted the state to continue speaking without all of the judges interruptions. I guess I need to watch the hearing again.

The dna was from Heathers vehicle not the Mooreres! That's where the mistake was.

 

[bestill]

No DNA from HE in SM's truck.

The lab mistakingly said DNA was from SM's truck when in fact it was from HE's car.

I think the circumstantial evidence against SM is very, very strong. He's on record completely lying about contact with her that night, yet he's on video. There are calls to/from HIS phone.

I think a conviction of SM is possible based on this. But not TM unless there's some evidence that ties her to it we don't know about.

I absolutely do not believe for a second there's some other person out there responsible for HE's disappearance. But I think LE botched this investigation BIG time.

I'd really like to hear what was found at the house that gave them enough to get an arrest warrant! No mention was made of that at all at the hearing, was it?

Exactly what I'm remembering. It was never said there is NO dna - it was said that the lab erred with Heather's dna being in SM's truck.

 

[TTF14]

She mentioned the texts they deleted from the phones were found on a computer that had been backed up to the phone. I think that was the major house evidence along with TMs stalker info she had compiled on the Elvis's.

Ah, ok.

 

[rtjedarling]

I think this was posted yesterday by PeterThomasFan...

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
Forensic evidence[edit]
Other examples of circumstantial evidence are fingerprint, blood analysis or DNA analysis of the evidence found at the scene of a crime. These types of evidence may strongly point to a certain conclusion when taken into consideration with other facts—but if not directly witnessed by someone when the crime was committed, they are still considered circumstantial. However, when proved by expert witnesses, they are usually sufficient to decide a case, especially in the absence of any direct evidence. Owing to developments in forensic methods, old undecided cases (or cold cases) are frequently resolved.

In other words the judge was not going to be swayed by any circumstantial evidence no matter by how much or strong in making his decision at the hearing- only possibly direct evidence which he asked if the state had, like a direct witness who may have been in danger if they were out.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

Exactly what I'm remembering. It was never said there is NO dna - it was said that the lab erred with Heather's dna being in SM's truck.

The biggest err IMO was Rhodes saying they had DNA. If that is the basis for their arrest and their case against the M's then, the state is in some trouble.

I think it has already been asked before but, when did the state know this error?

The reasoning behind the defense's multiple motions to compel.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

In other words the judge was not going to be swayed by any circumstantial evidence no matter by how much or strong in making his decision at the hearing- only possibly direct evidence which he asked if the state had, like a direct witness who may have been in danger if they were out.

I would tend to believe that strong evidence whether it be circumstantial or direct could be enough for a judge to deny bond. But yes, the judge did ask specifically for direct evidence at the hearing.

Again, a judge is not obligated by law to issue a bond.

 

[NFYIAMY]

Is this saying Dennis's term is up mid-June?

https://legiscan.com/SC/text/H3028/2015

If so, they need to try to get the date moved.

This may be the last case of his career if that's the case?


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[Eileen730]

The attorney also said that testing on original evidence from months ago has since revealed no link to Sidney Moorer and that recent evidence was a mistake. That more recent evidence was supposedly taken from Sidney's truck, but later turned out to have been taken from Heather Elvis' car.http://www.counton2.com/story/279785...er-elvis-death