Moorers' Bond Hearing - #2

[SStarr33]

personal recognizance bond

So they don't have to pay?

 

[Ghostwheel]

personal recognizance bond

:facepalm:

 

[Caffeine]

They're out...weak evidence or bad prosecutors?

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[meinmyrtlebeach]

Listening again...Truslow's exact words were "still no DNA evidence, no physical evidence, no direct evidence". That sounds different to me than some posters saying DNA and physical evidence is circumstantial. Sounds to me like they consider DNA and physical evidence to be direct evidence.

 

[WideOpen]

My predictions...TM is going to go crazy if SM is in another county, free and away from her, remember her postings about his family? TM is going to gain about 40 lbs in the next few months and she's not going to be able to stay off of social media. We need to be all eyes and ears and on the look out. There is going to be a really nasty custody battle over the kids. The Caison family is going to start claiming harassment and stalking again. It's going to be an interesting next few months....

Yep, worried for those kids, IMO TM has an attitude like, if I can't have them, no one will. SM is not the only one in danger imo-(especially if her rage is directed at him and she thinks he will throw her under the bus). Moms take kids out or abscond with them all the time. TM is not stable and is sure to do something very stupid. She is a danger to herself, her family, and the community, IMO.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

My predictions...TM is going to go crazy if SM is in another county, free and away from her, remember her postings about his family? TM is going to gain about 40 lbs in the next few months and she's not going to be able to stay off of social media. We need to be all eyes and ears and on the look out. There is going to be a really nasty custody battle over the kids. The Caison family is going to start claiming harassment and stalking again. It's going to be an interesting next few months....

You read my thoughts, bestill!

 

[tabinmaine]

So they don't have to pay?

(sniped from a google search)
Although a person does not pay money or obtain assistance from a bondsman, typically a dollar amount is associated with a PR bond. A judicial officer permits a person to sign a PR bond at a certain dollar amount in exchange for release. If the individual fails to appear at future judicial proceedings in the case, the bond is revoked, and the defendant must pay the dollar amount associated with that PR bond.

 

[PeterThomasFan]

So they don't have to pay?

They have to promise to come back for court date.

 

[Momoffourboys]

personal recognizance bond

Holy crap.
Isn't that usually for non violent crimes? Misdemeanors? Non flight risks?

 

[SStarr33]

Yep, worried for those kids, IMO TM has an attitude like, if I can't have them, no one will. SM is not the only one in danger imo-(especially if her rage is directed at him and she thinks he will throw her under the bus). Moms take kids out or abscond with them all the time. TM is not stable and is sure to do something very stupid. She is a danger to herself, her family, and the community, IMO.

It would be horrific if she does something to those kids. But you are right, she does not seem very stable.

 

[SStarr33]

They have to pay and promise to come back for court date.

I don't get it. Seems like most are PR bonds then

 

[JerseyGirl]

Full Video of the bond hearing, Part I and Part II http://www.live5news.com/story/27984870/bond-granted-for-couple-accused-of-heather-elvis-murder

Judge R. Markley Dennis, Jr., granted the Moorers personal recognizance bonds, setting the total bond at $100,000 for all charges related to the case. The conditions of the bond include GPS monitoring for both Tammy and Sidney. Judge Dennis required that they stay outside of a 5-mile radius from the Elvis' home, and must not have any direct or indirect contact with the family.

 

[WideOpen]

Since TM loves forums/discussion boards, and since this website has so much about HE's disappearance and this case on it, I would not be surprised if she does not create herself an account on here and starts running her mouth..... once she has access to the internet look out.....

Thats what I was thinking to myself... ""self, you better watch what you say in public"" I do not put anything past her from what I have seen following along in Heathers missing case.

Where is HEATHER? Heather you need to be found.

jmo

 

[tabinmaine]

They have to pay and promise to come back for court date.

I don't believe they have to pay anything , just sign and walk out.

 

[TTF14]

So, will they be released today?

 

[tabinmaine]

Good question ^^^

 

[Surfside]

Oh, you guys, so gloomy. Here's what I saw: the defense attorneys attacked the evidence and tried to prop up their clients' good character. Did the judge interrupt either of them? I think maybe once, when Tammy's attorney was speaking.

Then it was Livesay's turn, and she was moving in for the kill. But the judge interrupted and the guy sitting next to her had to tap her on the arm before she noticed - that's how focused she was. And the judge kept interrupting, over and over again, throwing her off stride. He told her that a "substantial change" was not the only criteria he could use to grant bond, there was also length of time the accused has been held, and basically he said that was the only criteria he was considering today. Just yanked the rug right out from under her. At that point, I kinda knew we were screwed.

We didn't get to hear Livesay's full rebuttal to allegations that the evidence doesn't exist. We heard a little bit of some of it, but not everything she would have said in response to the defense attorneys' allegations. He kept shutting her down, so now the idea that there's no evidence, the officials screwed up, they jumped the gun or whatever, it's just left hanging out there, unchallenged.

I think what we heard today was very one-sided, so I'm not giving up hope. I wish we could've heard the full argument Livesay was prepared to deliver this morning.

Exactly Okie. This was NOT a trial. The judge stayed that the rules for bond had changed. He stated that EVERYONE deserves bail. He stated that EVERYONE, until convicted, is presumed innocent. What I got was that the law changed somewhat to state that you can only hold a dependent 6 months without bail. After that he is required to give them bail regardless of the evidence. He also stated he agreed nothing had changed from the first bail hearing to this one. Just the law governing bail. This judge was granting bail no matter what. I still think there is s very good circumstantial case against these two but I will say a few things came out that change my mind of what went down. I would like to see the transcripts of the interview. For instance, I wonder if Tammy knew he called Heather on the Payphone.


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I'm in the middle of backreading, but I want to pause to thank you both for these two posts. Y'all talked me off of the figurative ledge. Admittedly, this is the first case I've ever followed, and I needed to read your words. Thanks again. Carry on...

 

[PeterThomasFan]

According to the conditions of bond (5 mile radius of E's)... TM won't be able to stay at the compound since the actual distance is 4.0 miles!

 

[TTF14]

I don't believe they have to pay anything , just sign and walk out.

Why even set a bond for a dollar amount then? I guess I do not understand bond/bail, etc.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Thank you WSers for keeping us up to date on the hearing...

I am disappointed...

where is Heather?

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