Mother preparing to be arrested

[feistygurl]

Again, another case where it strikes me as extremely odd that when a child goes missing, the parents do not seem to be going out of their minds looking, I mean actually physically going out and searching like mad for their child, I would immediately told police to polygraph me so I could the h out of the Police station and go out on foot searching for my child!!! I did not hear one thing about them canvasing the neighborhood after they called 911 to actually LOOK for their child. I know when my little man went missing for 10 minutes while we were visiting a neighbor in an adjoining apartment I went crazy looking for him, I know the panic you feel the first time you discover your child missing, Im not seeing this PANIC in these parents. Maybe its just the way they are reacting, but in a few of the missing child cases Ive seen this where the parents do not seem to be in complete and total panic and do not go physically searching for their child!!! I dont know maybe its just me but I would be freaking the heck out and not sitting around doing interviews and taking any time at all away from actually physically walking around, talking to neighbors doing EVERYTHING that I possibly could to find my child. Not setting up accounts where I could get money and doing interviews, NO WAY I would be out there digging in the mud SEARCHING SEARCHING SEARCHING!!! NO WAY I could sit still at all........MOO:maddening:

Same here I wouldnt stop looking and no one would stop me. The first few days I am sure I would be running on adrenaline and then after that I would go to a dr to get something to keep me up. I would have to do this or be totally knocked out without knowing it.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

This family is in desperate need of some guidance from a competent attorney.

Do they have anyone other than Ashley advising them, to your knowledge?

 

[cluciano63]

Correct. The man could have been her father for all we know In other words...the man was more than probably mentioned by DB at the onset when she had to give her days accounting and was not an unusual person for her to be with....in other words...gave no indication at all that the man was a secret boyfriend, etc.

The man from the store said the man was about 20, for what it is worth. It only matters if mom "forgot" to tell LE I guess...maybe she did not want to take a blood test, who knows...(if she had been drinking.)

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

The man from the store said the man was about 20, for what it is worth. It only matters if mom "forgot" to tell LE I guess...maybe she did not want to take a blood test, who knows...(if she had been drinking.)

THen it is a possibility it could have been a cousin, family friend, the teenager down the street, etc. I'm sure it will come out...and as the PD stated it is not anything for anyone to run rumors about. That means it is explainable in my book. As for the wine, she may have had one glass...or none for that matter. We don't know that either.

 

[MissJames]

Here is a possible scenario.
Mom puts baby to bed 7:30 as she said.
Goes on computer , hot in room...opens window.
Mom gathers kids up shuts off lights shuts doors...normal routine, 6 yr old wants to sleep with mom and new kitty. Mom says ok.
8 year old gets up at night and wants kitty....turns on all lights to look for kitty, sees mom door shut and figures will be in trouble if he wakes her so he goes back to bed. Now all lights on.
Man/Woman come to kidnap baby that they wanted. Man goes to open window and starts to bend inward, woman says "hey door is unlocked"...man gives up the window and goes in the house with woman...man grabs cell phones off kitchen counter in case anyone wakes up in house and confrontation occurs...woman gets baby...man and woman leave house.
Dad comes home at 4am...sees lights on. Thinks wife is careless...or maybe thinks she left on due to his first midnight shift away.
He goes in house and starts shutting lights...goes to computer room...starts to shut the open window....and realizes bent frame...now he is wanting to know why all this goes on the first night he is not home...doesn't she have control of the kids? Goes in bedroom a bit irate...wakes her up and says "all the lights on' AND sees sleeping six year old...says "Why is he sleeping in here?" then remembers Lisa door open....then goes to shut her door when he looks in as he goes to shut her door and sees she is not in crib...even though his intention was to shut her door to not awaken her with his upset voice over the way he found the house and child in bed...then all is realized and then PD called.

A definite maybe. It happened to the Smart's .IMO ,it would be the best case scenario because there's a good chance she's still alive and may come home.
Gosh,wouldn't that be wonderful?

 

[Kaybug]

I do agree with this about the polygraph test.


Expert: Missing Baby's Mother's Failed Polygraph Means Nothing
Expert Stands By Polygraph Results Under Right Situations
POSTED: 8:22 am CDT October 11, 2011
UPDATED: 9:10 am CDT October 11, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A former FBI agent and polygraph expert said a polygraph should not have been given to baby Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley.

Allen Jennerich, who worked for the FBI for 25 years, said Bradley should not have been given a polygraph because of how emotional the situation is, the repeated police interviews and her lack of sleep.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29448684/detail.html#ixzz1aWE0CXwj

This link also has links to all previous articles.

 

[MissJames]

Do they have anyone other than Ashley advising them, to your knowledge?

There were tweets from someone in the law firm Ashley works for. Surely,they would not stand by and do nothing :waitasec:

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

A definite maybe. It happened to the Smart's .IMO ,it would be the best case scenario because there's a good chance she's still alive and may come home.
Gosh,wouldn't that be wonderful?

I am just steadfastly refusing to believe the mother did this. I honestly believe her story as to what happened. Even when I heard breaking news in my car today on satellite radio about the well and about the wine/male at store....even with that...I just knew it was going to be something "explainable." I just truly believe the mom did not do any harm to her child or covering up anything. I hope I am right. I want nothing more than to see Baby Lisa brought home safely as I know everyone else does too! Keep the hope!

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I do agree with this about the polygraph test.


Expert: Missing Baby's Mother's Failed Polygraph Means Nothing
Expert Stands By Polygraph Results Under Right Situations
POSTED: 8:22 am CDT October 11, 2011
UPDATED: 9:10 am CDT October 11, 2011

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A former FBI agent and polygraph expert said a polygraph should not have been given to baby Lisa's mother, Deborah Bradley.

Allen Jennerich, who worked for the FBI for 25 years, said Bradley should not have been given a polygraph because of how emotional the situation is, the repeated police interviews and her lack of sleep.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29448684/detail.html#ixzz1aWE0CXwj

This link also has links to all previous articles.

Yes and the police knew this. The only reason they gave her that polygraph was as a tactic to tell her that she failed to see if they can break her into a HUGE investigation and to get to baby. They bluffed it all in my opinion....including her faiilng it.

 

[jjenny]

A definite maybe. It happened to the Smart's .IMO ,it would be the best case scenario because there's a good chance she's still alive and may come home.
Gosh,wouldn't that be wonderful?

Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped to be a "sister wife." Clearly the baby isn't going to be kidnapped as someone's wife.

 

[Just-a-Guy]

There were tweets from someone in the law firm Ashley works for. Surely,they would not stand by and do nothing :waitasec:

Wait...when did we learn that Ashley works for a law firm? I don't know if this is permitted, but my own (very quick and dirty) research indicated she worked for an energy company. Could have been the wrong person. I must have missed this (have not been able to read everything).

 

[iamnotagolem]

No need to apologize. I think sometimes words come out in print as harsh when not intended. I was responding to the same person you were and it only picked up your comment not the entire quote...hers and yours.

Eeeek I wasn't saying it as fact that DB was having an affair. It's been widely suggested that not only is she having an affair but possibly Lisa isn't jeremy's biochild.

It would seem an affair is a lot of unnecessary work, it's not like she'd need to divorce Jeremy. She could just leave, they weren't married, they didn't own a home together.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Wait...when did we learn that Ashley works for a law firm? I don't know if this is permitted, but my own (very quick and dirty) research indicated she worked for an energy company. Could have been the wrong person. I must have missed this (have not been able to read everything).

Various posters have turned up AI as a law student, a newish attorney in Texas, a civil litigation firm tweeted she was one of their paralegals, etc. I don't know if any of this has been confirmed in MSM, but there's some contradictory info on the boards about her.

 

[jacy]

I've taken the liberty of starting a general thread for thoughts and theories regarding the case. I hope that is alright. you can find it here Lisa Irwin Disappearance - Thoughts and Theories - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thank you! This site (the people, rather) keeps me sane. Well, relatively. :crazy:

 

[Cappuccino]

Same here I wouldnt stop looking and no one would stop me. The first few days I am sure I would be running on adrenaline and then after that I would go to a dr to get something to keep me up. I would have to do this or be totally knocked out without knowing it.

LE would stop you. There are good reasons not to have parents of missing children involved in the search, so any police force worth its salt would have you at home by the phone in case of a ransom demand, and a police officer liaising between you and the searchers.

 

[mentalsolstice]

I think parents are told to NOT look for the child. That was actually a problem in the JonBenet Ramsey case; her father found her body and in grabbing her to bring her upstairs, he disturbed the crime scene.

If, God forbid, the parents were to go looking and find the baby's body in the bushes, as parents could they keep themselves from rushing to her? I doubt it.

True that. And finding her body could incriminate them, many would say it was so "convenient" for them to find her. I also wonder if our verified local can give us any idea to what the on-site media coverage is. I have the feeling if this couple were to step outside of wherever they are the media and the cameras would be lighting the place up like the 4th of July, which may actually hinder volunteer and professional searchers. A question would have to be asked to parents have been in a situation like this, would they really want to be the ones finding their child's body, especially after so many days. Would John Walsh wanted to have made that discovery, considering the condition in which Adam's body was found?

 

[feistygurl]

Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped to be a "sister wife." Clearly the baby isn't going to be kidnapped as someone's wife.

I thnk she just meant the kidnap part not the wife part!

 

[MissJames]

That couldn't have been easy for you to type, MissJames. Thank you.

I'll be honest ,it really bothers me that anyone can imagine a mom being so casual about their child dying by accident.

I'm not criticizing because I understand unless you've been there.....

I have grieved for dear pets,both of my parents and my FIL,but nothing compares to the pain of your child dying. There are no words.

Have we heard criticism about Mom as a parent? Did she want Lisa? Was she depressed ,overwhelmed? Unbalanced?

I know parents are the most common perps,but I'm not seeing anything that looks suspicious .
Still on the fence ,but not about it being an accident.

 

[frankie069]

If he checked on the boys before waking up mom and only then they both thought to check up on Lisa it's very strange to me.

IDK, but if I had a couple of older boys in the house, an adult, and a sick baby, I know who I would check up first.

EXACTLY and that is the one thing that sticks out to me. Why did he check on the boys first, mom second and then get her to check on the baby. It doesnt fit in this story. I wish I was a cop. I would love to be the one questioning them.

 

[feistygurl]

LE would stop you. There are good reasons not to have parents of missing children involved in the search, so any police force worth its salt would have you at home by the phone in case of a ransom demand, and a police officer liaising between you and the searchers.

Naw to stop they would have to arrest me.