Motion to Take Deposition to Perpetuate Testimony of Jill Kerley

[JBean]

As I understand it her inability to travel doesn't really have any bearing on anything unless she can't travel when necessary. IOW, this motion is a measure to safeguard her testimony in the event she cannot travel or dies prior to the time her testimony is needed..if it is needed at all.

 

[Nore]

I was thinking about the duct tape part of this statement and not even thinking about how long she said he restrained her.

According to Os:
Kerley already told a private investigator for the Anthony team that Kronk once tied her up with duct tape and kidnapped her for two weeks, records say. Her allegations were videotaped and released to the media.

The other part of this is if he could restrain an adult for two weeks and keep her alive, imagine how long he could restrain a child and keep her alive. Not to be off topic, but I think this ties in. I never believed that the skull was ever under water because her hair was piled up around it. I am pretty sure hair floats and would float away. Moo. Mods, sorry to be a little off topic. Let me know and I will remove the post.

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I read the hair was matted up under the skull, with the duct tape keeping it in place.Kerley has no proof at all there is a tie in between Caylee and Kronk.Many people have been duct taped by an angry B.F..The Posecution does have proof against Kerley...She is a liar..(read autopsy report).

 

[LambChop]

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I read the hair was matted up under the skull, with the duct tape keeping it in place.Kerley has no proof at all there is a tie in between Caylee and Kronk.Many people have been duct taped by an angry B.F..The Posecution does have proof against Kerley...She is a liar..(read autopsy report).

Nope, Nore....this time you're right!

 

[Kathy1964]

I think that in the end Judge S may rule that JK's testimony is too remote in time to be admitted during trial. Anyone ?

 

[kaRN]

She apparently has Non-Hogkins(sp?) Lymphoma and is receiving chemotherapy. I believe I read her father died of it. However it's been said she is also bi-polar, so the check writing would fit. And no, she isn't looking at all frail.

I can't speak to legislation in Tennessee but JK can't be an RN if she convicted of fraud in most places. Certainly not where I live. The controlled substance charge would also prevent her from practicing. Only because it resulted in charges though. Doctors and RN's have access to controlled substances, lousy long hours and lots of stress. The addiction rate to controlled substances among the above is really high actually. Hospitals are aware of the root cause and are really good at assisting staff who identify their own problems and are willing to seek help. Charged means something else to me, like stealing for the purpose of trafficking or getting caught and lying.
Please don't let her really be an RN. Bad enough we have a CA lying openly with a licence. JMO

 

[mitzi]

Unfortunately for defense, SA did not insist on putting this woman though this did they? It is the defense who contacted her and knowing how ill she is insisted on pushing her out there into national prime time instead of handling this through the proper procedures. As sick as JK may well be she still accused her ex of a vicious crime. She said quite clearly that in her gut she feels he murder Caylee. You can't accuse someone of a crime such a murder and expect not to be challenged on your statement whether you are ill or not.

It will be defense that is not looked too well upon because it is through their insistence that they are making JK endure this process. This is not helping her healing process by putting her through this but then she did make that statement and knows what is expected of her.

Nurse are people, they make the same mistakes as everyone else. It's just easier for them to gain access to controlled substances than it would be for you or me. Those charges are interesting.

Because of her past, I would hope SA asks her to take a poly. JMO

I guess pressure and exposure comes with the territory when one wants their "15 minutes of fame." :angel:

 

[mitzi]

It may have been info from the jail...His girlfriend.

Isn't this a myth?

 

[mitzi]

Do we know if JK's Dr. has sent the prosecution any proof of her inability to travel? Proof of her reoccurance of lymphoma? That's what is hinky to me...only JB's word...

I really wonder if we will actually see this depo happen. Me thinks Jose won't go thru with it. Just the fact that the parts of the PI interview were attached to a motion, (read: bypassed the sunshine laws), and then that JB put this motion through about deposing "poor sick JK", (ie.sympathy for JK), this might be enough for him to think he can affect potential jurers. Maybe Jose never intended to depo her because he knows she was elaborating, (read: mistruthacating) and he only wanted to get it out to the public, the parts he wants out. After all, if everything JK said was true on the interview, why are we seeing massive editing? If there was nothing wrong with all of JK's interview, why are we seeing only a part of it?

 

[twomanywords]

I see in the news thread that the OS put out a story. They talk about Jk and her crimes.

From the Os:
Tennessee criminal records show Kerley is a convicted felon who is on probation. Records show she has been charged several times with writing bad checks as far back as 1998.

Tennessee Bureau of Investigation records also indicate that Kerley, who is a nurse, was arrested in 2000 on a controlled-substance charge. The outcome of that case was not available.

If her testimony is entered into the record, it's likely prosecutors will point to her criminal past.

It will be interesting to watch the Sa impeach a very sick cancer patient that is a nurse. Nurses are noble people in my opinion. I wonder how Sa will approach this.. Moo

I can certainly understand your compassion for nurses....but once you have violated the trust of others by writing bad checks and stealing money( because that's what it is), you kind of give up the NOBLE part.
If it turns out she is lying just to get back at Kronk, will she still be noble?
If accusing an innocent man of a horrible crime is noble than I need to revise every moral I ever taught my son.

 

[twomanywords]

I really don't get the connection between Kronk and KC's trunk? Or the Pooh Blanket? Or the laundry bag?
As far as we know KC never knew Kronk, so how does Caylee go from Anthony's house to Zanny to Kronk?
Was KC protecting a man she didn't know, while pushing us on the "invisible" Nanny?
So did Kronk go to Blanchard Park and follow Zanny and her sister and then grab Caylee, kill her and then put her in Casey's trunk?
I really don't think the courts will allow jurors from another planet, because that story is pure fiction, just like everything the Anthony's have perpetuated.
JK is just one more diversion that will never make it into the trial. Oh Yes, and why did she wait so long to tell us about Kronk?

The Anthony's are the only other people to have seen Caylee last . Logic would tell you that the murderer has a last name with an A.

 

[Tuffy]

It may have been info from the jail...His girlfriend.

I haven't seen much information on his girlfriend yet. Do we know that she works for the jail? The same one that KC is housed in?

 

[Kentjbkent]

Do we know if JK's Dr. has sent the prosecution any proof of her inability to travel? Proof of her reoccurance of lymphoma? That's what is hinky to me...only JB's word...

I really wonder if we will actually see this depo happen. Me thinks Jose won't go thru with it. Just the fact that the parts of the PI interview were attached to a motion, (read: bypassed the sunshine laws), and then that JB put this motion through about deposing "poor sick JK", (ie.sympathy for JK), this might be enough for him to think he can affect potential jurers. Maybe Jose never intended to depo her because he knows she was elaborating, (read: mistruthacating) and he only wanted to get it out to the public, the parts he wants out. After all, if everything JK said was true on the interview, why are we seeing massive editing? If there was nothing wrong with all of JK's interview, why are we seeing only a part of it?

If I recall correctly, LDB mentioned in court that as of right now, they have only the word of JB concerning JK inability to travel and the SA is willing to accept that for right now in regards to the deposition, but that if it gets to the point where this deposition (if it takes place) is used in trial, LDB stated that they would insist on official notification of the health and wellbeing of JK. JS agreed.

But I agree with you that I will not be surprised if this depo never really happens. Heck, as far as I know, they never even bothered to go back and finish the depo of RK! As you stated, I think this was all a well orchestrated attempt to get JK statement out in the public forum, and the only reason it was the motion concerning HER that was brought up right now was an attempt to deflect attention away from KC's plea....get everyone talking, arguing, debating about JK as opposed to KC. jmo

 

[Kentjbkent]

I haven't seen much information on his girlfriend yet. Do we know that she works for the jail? The same one that KC is housed in?

I think this has been discussed at length before and it was determined that the only information speculating that RK has a girlfriend who works for OC jail came from LP during a NG episode....and he had absolutely nothing to back up his "assumptive theory"

So RK = girlfriend employed by OC = RUMOR

 

[Kentjbkent]

I can't speak to legislation in Tennessee but JK can't be an RN if she convicted of fraud in most places. Certainly not where I live. The controlled substance charge would also prevent her from practicing. Only because it resulted in charges though. Doctors and RN's have access to controlled substances, lousy long hours and lots of stress. The addiction rate to controlled substances among the above is really high actually. Hospitals are aware of the root cause and are really good at assisting staff who identify their own problems and are willing to seek help. Charged means something else to me, like stealing for the purpose of trafficking or getting caught and lying.
Please don't let her really be an RN. Bad enough we have a CA lying openly with a licence. JMO

I don't think this is necessarily true, or at least is something that can be worked around.

Do you recall the black woman with glasses who sold her story to Radaronline early last year, after being released from OC jail on bad check conviction? She claimed that she witnessed KC being drug from her cell and tied down to a restraint table? This woman also claimed that while KC was being led down to this "restraint room", KC passed by and pleaded with the woman "HELP ME!"

This woman claimed to be a nurse and on further investigation it was learned that she had a long history of prescription drug problems (as well as check issues). She had actually been licensed as an RN in 3 or 4 other states, including Hawaii, but kept losing her license due to prescription pill theft from the hospitals she worked for. In each case, as soon as she lost her license, she jumped to another state and obtained a new license, refraining from mentioning residency in the previous states.

So depending on which states JK convictions are in, she may have refrained from revealing this info when applying for a license in TN. Also keep in mind that she has used as many as 5 different variations of her name (see alias')

Which brings up a good point.....now that JB and MS have "outed" her and her criminal past is now out in the public, I wonder if that is going to affect how forthcoming she will be in a depo, or how willing she will be to participate for the defense at all. Her secrets are no longer her own. Hmmm.....

 

[Kentjbkent]

I do feel bad for this woman. She obviously has a lot on her plate to deal with and I suspect that when MS contacted her wanting to interview her for investigative purposes, she had no idea that the intent was to publish the video on the internet publicly.

Imagine an investigator shows up on your doorstep wanting to talk to you about someone from your past, and you assume it is just a conversation between the two of you. Not unusual to be asked if interview can be recorded, but I know I would be shocked to find it published online shortly thereafter.

What would have been VERY interesting would have been to hear the entire conversation (including comments and questions by MS) recorded for all to hear! Did he lead her into her "recollections"? What comments did he make BEFORE he turned that video camera on???????

JK was merely a pawn in this defense game and it has bitten her badly. Her entire life, good and bad, has now exploded and she and her history are public knowledge.

Just another victim of KC and her "defense" team....

 

[LambChop]

Do we know if JK's Dr. has sent the prosecution any proof of her inability to travel? Proof of her reoccurance of lymphoma? That's what is hinky to me...only JB's word...

I really wonder if we will actually see this depo happen. Me thinks Jose won't go thru with it. Just the fact that the parts of the PI interview were attached to a motion, (read: bypassed the sunshine laws), and then that JB put this motion through about deposing "poor sick JK", (ie.sympathy for JK), this might be enough for him to think he can affect potential jurers. Maybe Jose never intended to depo her because he knows she was elaborating, (read: mistruthacating) and he only wanted to get it out to the public, the parts he wants out. After all, if everything JK said was true on the interview, why are we seeing massive editing? If there was nothing wrong with all of JK's interview, why are we seeing only a part of it?

But what if the real reason JK can not travel is because she is on probation and unable to leave the state. What are the chances that JB would tell the truth and say she can't leave because she is on probation? I think he would say she can't leave because she is ill and hope no one looks into her criminal records.

I don't think this is going anywhere and in particular if SA finds she cannot produce a doctor's excuse, which I would believe would have already been presented as her video was released in November, would JB spend money to travel to TN just to get a depo he can't use? JMO

 

[coco puff]

Do we know if JK's Dr. has sent the prosecution any proof of her inability to travel? Proof of her reoccurance of lymphoma? That's what is hinky to me...only JB's word...

I really wonder if we will actually see this depo happen. Me thinks Jose won't go thru with it. Just the fact that the parts of the PI interview were attached to a motion, (read: bypassed the sunshine laws), and then that JB put this motion through about deposing "poor sick JK", (ie.sympathy for JK), this might be enough for him to think he can affect potential jurers. Maybe Jose never intended to depo her because he knows she was elaborating, (read: mistruthacating) and he only wanted to get it out to the public, the parts he wants out. After all, if everything JK said was true on the interview, why are we seeing massive editing? If there was nothing wrong with all of JK's interview, why are we seeing only a part of it?

I agree that this depo may never happen. It is an awful lot of work for the defense to go through when they keep saying that there is no evidence that Caylee was even murdered.

 

[rhornsby]

(read: bypassed the sunshine laws)

Florida's Public Records Laws (a/k/a Sunshine laws) only apply to governmental entities of the State of Florida.

The Sunshine laws do not apply to a defense attorney at all. You could send me all the Public Records requests you want - and I would have no duty to respond to him.

So if you are going to fault him for violating something, at least cite some actual authority that supports your belief.

Whether the Kronk allegations are true or not, Baez did absolutely nothing improper in the way he has handled this particular issue.

The burden now turns to the state to raise any objections if they think there are valid ones; and since they have not raised any objections to the Motion to Perpetuate testimony, chances are they have no good faith basis to doing so at the time being.

 

[RR0004]

Florida's Public Records Laws (a/k/a Sunshine laws) only apply to governmental entities of the State of Florida.

The Sunshine laws do not apply to a defense attorney at all. You could send me all the Public Records requests you want - and I would have no duty to respond to him.

So if you are going to fault him for violating something, at least cite some actual authority that supports your belief.

Whether the Kronk allegations are true or not, Baez did absolutely nothing improper in the way he has handled this particular issue.

The burden now turns to the state to raise any objections if they think there are valid ones; and since they have not raised any objections to the Motion to Perpetuate testimony, chances are they have no good faith basis to doing so at the time being.

Do you have any idea why Kronk's deposition with JB has never seen the light of day? Am I wrong to assume that he would need to turn this over to the State (in discovery)?

 

[notthatsmart]

I think this has been discussed at length before and it was determined that the only information speculating that RK has a girlfriend who works for OC jail came from LP during a NG episode....and he had absolutely nothing to back up his "assumptive theory"

So RK = girlfriend employed by OC = RUMOR

I think the rumor starts in discovery. pdf page 126 doc page 8126

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21148535/detail.html

Sorry to be off topic, just wanted to clear that up. Back to the other woman Jk.Moo