GUILTY MS - Alexandria "Ally" Kostial, 21, Ole Miss student found dead, Harmontown, 20 Jul 2019 *ARREST* #2

[afitzy]

Kendall Downing @kendall_downing
NEW: Brandon Theesfeld lived at this apt complex off Old Taylor Rd in Oxford. Neighbors say they didn’t interact with him much but would see him going to the gym. Another neighbor told me she heard loud parties
@WMCActionNews5

10:24 AM · Jul 24, 2019 pst

Is this the correct complex and address:

Taylor Bend Apartments | Near Ole Miss | Oxford, MS Student Apartments

Google maps of other area options:

old taylor road apartments oxford ms

 

[Seattle1]

Are they keeping him in jail to keep him safe?

Trying to figure out why no bail hearing?

With the Grand Jury is the hearing just the DA/State presenting evidence or are Defense atty's allowed to be present?

I'm used to seeing preliminary hearing with both parties present so Grand Jury process is not familar. Sorry in advance for the question to those that are familiar.

Or, do they have to wait for Grand Jury to come back with charges before doing bail?

Or is State fearful of flight risk and that is why suspect hasn't had bail hearing?

From what I gather, the defense made no motion for his bond hearing as was reported in between the time BT was adding more lawyers to his defense team.

Later, co-counsel Tony Farese alleged that DA filed motion to hold BT without bond before his initial appearance, before the agreement to not hear the bond hearing until a later date.

I don't think any interference here except BT's lawyer's getting organized. Defense wanted bond hearing at later date. It all happened within a matter of 3-4 days.

7/24/19

The Lafayette County Sheriff’s Department announced Wednesday at 12:09 p.m. that no bond hearing has been scheduled for Brandon Theesfeld.

“The bond hearing will be held when the defense attorney files a motion for the bond hearing,” the statement, attributed to Chief Investigator Alan Wilburn, read.

Local attorney Swayze Alford is representing Theesfeld. According to Alford’s law office website, his clients are “often referred to him for his experience in divorce, DUI and criminal defense work.”
https://www.oxfordeagle.com/2019/07/24/bond-hearing-not-scheduled-for-brandon-theesfeld/

7/25/19

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — A motion has been filed to hold Brandon Theesfeld without bond in the murder case of Ole Miss student Ally Kostial, District Attorney Ben Creekmore said Thursday.

That means Theesfeld would remain in jail until the next court hearing, which will not happen this week. Creekmoore says the case will be turned over to the grand jury.
Motion filed to hold accused Ole Miss killer without bond

7/26/19

The motion was filed earlier in the week, ahead of Theesfeld’s initial court appearance, according to co-counsel Tony Farese.

“They did that initially with their standard request at the beginning before the agreement to not hear the bond hearing until a later date,” Farese told the EAGLE on Friday morning.
https://www.oxfordeagle.com/2019/07/26/district-attorney-filed-motion-to-deny-theesfeld-bond/

 

[MemPat]

Are they keeping him in jail to keep him safe?

Trying to figure out why no bail hearing?

With the Grand Jury is the hearing just the DA/State presenting evidence or are Defense atty's allowed to be present?

I'm used to seeing preliminary hearing with both parties present so Grand Jury process is not familar. Sorry in advance for the question to those that are familiar.

Or, do they have to wait for Grand Jury to come back with charges before doing bail?

Or is State fearful of flight risk and that is why suspect hasn't had bail hearing?

Maybe there's no bail hearing because Daddy made it clear he won't post it.

After all the years of entitlement for Brandon, perhaps murdering a coed is the family's red line?

"Son, now you're going to have to sleep here with these bad people eating bad food and wearing non-designer shirts.....al least for a few weeks and then we'll talk."

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Are they keeping him in jail to keep him safe?

Trying to figure out why no bail hearing?

With the Grand Jury is the hearing just the DA/State presenting evidence or are Defense atty's allowed to be present?

I'm used to seeing preliminary hearing with both parties present so Grand Jury process is not familar. Sorry in advance for the question to those that are familiar.

Or, do they have to wait for Grand Jury to come back with charges before doing bail?

Or is State fearful of flight risk and that is why suspect hasn't had bail hearing?

Unlike a preliminary hearing, held in court with the defense side present, the grand jury does not make its decision in the context of an adversary proceeding. Rather, grand jurors see and hear only what prosecutors put before them.

(Prosecutors technically have an obligation to present “exculpatory” evidence—evidence that suggests that a defendant might not be guilty—though there is not much other than the prosecutor’s conscience to enforce this rule.)

Why Prosecutors Choose Grand Juries Instead of Preliminary Hearings

 

[afitzy]

Maybe there's no bail hearing because Daddy made it clear he won't post it.

After all the years of entitlement for Brandon, perhaps murdering a coed is the family's red line?

"Son, now you're going to have to sleep here with these bad people eating bad food and wearing non-designer shirts.....al least for a few weeks and then we'll talk."

MOO

You mean kinda like a "Come to Jesus Meeting" in the "good Christian family"?

Got it!

But after the new atty statements and father making the plea to reserve judgment to the press, I wonder if there is some other plan they are cooking up that will be highly disturbing for us to hear?

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Unlike a preliminary hearing, held in court with the defense side present, the grand jury does not make its decision in the context of an adversary proceeding. Rather, grand jurors see and hear only what prosecutors put before them.

(Prosecutors technically have an obligation to present “exculpatory” evidence—evidence that suggests that a defendant might not be guilty—though there is not much other than the prosecutor’s conscience to enforce this rule.)

Why Prosecutors Choose Grand Juries Instead of Preliminary Hearings

Interesting.

Hope the DA has their evidence lined up.

You don't think that the reason there has been no bail request is because the DA told the Defense that there will be insufficient evidence for Grand Jury to convict and that their boy will be out in short order anyway?

MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Interesting.

Hope the DA has their evidence lined up.

You don't think that the reason there has been no bail request is because the DA told the Defense that there will be insufficient evidence for Grand Jury to convict and that their boy will be out in short order anyway?

MOO

Nope. Don’t forget that grand jury does not convict, they indict the suspect. Also, unlike a preliminary, prosecution is not required to establish probable cause with a grand jury.

No bail hearing rests squarely on defense shoulders.

MOO

 

[squareandrabbet]

Rainbows, Unicorns and Butterflies’

Photos from 2016 show Kostial and Theesfeld together in smiling poses, at parties and with arms around each other. But a close friend from Kostial’s hometown of St. Louis, Missouri, Samantha Martin, who says she visited Kostial four times in Oxford, says they were never a couple.

“They honesty just talked, like, off and on for the three years that she was there, but they never officially dated,” says Martin. “I met a lot of Ally’s friends down there. I was around him a few times but, I don’t know, I just heard he wasn’t very nice from multiple people and that he just never treated girls very well, and he was just a *******.”

Ole Miss Murder Suspect Had 'Complicated Relationship' With Victim, Was 'Super Misogynistic': Friends

Oh dear... all these new details, my heart is heavy. For you see, I've been "That Girl", admittedly before the days of cell phones... God knows what I would had done if there was. I'm sure I grilled everyone I knew, and some of them on a weekly basis, as to what I should do with my recalcitrant "friend with benefits". Poor Ally... I even remember being on the flip-side version of it with another friend, who would go into nonstop sighs and raptures about a different dude, about whom I often had to bite back the urge to say "Him? Really? That ordinary-looking guy is the guy you're dying of love for?", as I was giving the most carefully chosen, well-thought-out advice I could muster.

I'm sorry Ally will never know what it's like to have someone who is in love with her for real and returns her feelings. There's no doubt she was exceptionally deserving of such an individual, if anyone is.

 

[Seattle1]

Oh dear... all these new details, my heart is heavy. For you see, I've been "That Girl", admittedly before the days of cell phones... God knows what I would had done if there was. I'm sure I grilled everyone I knew, and some of them on a weekly basis, as to what I should do with my recalcitrant "friend with benefits". Poor Ally... I even remember being on the flip-side version of it with another friend, who would go into nonstop sighs and raptures about a different dude, about whom I often had to bite back the urge to say "Him? Really? That ordinary-looking guy is the guy you're dying of love for?", as I was giving the most carefully chosen, well-thought-out advice I could muster.

I'm sorry Ally will never know what it's like to have someone who is in love with her for real and returns her feelings. There's no doubt she was exceptionally deserving of such an individual, if anyone is.

It's hard not to think of Ally when reading the following characteristics Ally likely experienced, and couldn't seem to break from. I'm sorry it cost Ally her life. Random article in news today....

1. THE RELATIONSHIP IS ALL ABOUT HIM
2. THE STRANGE GUT FEELING
3. YOU STOP BEING YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE AROUND HIM
4. BLURRED BOUNDARIES
5. YOU DO NOT GROW TOGETHER AS A COUPLE
6. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE MAKING THE EFFORT
7. THE DRAMA
8. BREAKING UP IS A MASSACRE
9. RECOVERY IS ENDLESS

Psychotherapist reveals the tell-tale signs to know if your partner is a narcissist | Daily Mail Online

 

[marcolepsy]

It's hard not to think of Ally when reading the following characteristics Ally likely experienced, and couldn't seem to break from. I'm sorry it cost Ally her life. Random article in news today....

1. THE RELATIONSHIP IS ALL ABOUT HIM
2. THE STRANGE GUT FEELING
3. YOU STOP BEING YOURSELF WHEN YOU'RE AROUND HIM
4. BLURRED BOUNDARIES
5. YOU DO NOT GROW TOGETHER AS A COUPLE
6. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE MAKING THE EFFORT
7. THE DRAMA
8. BREAKING UP IS A MASSACRE
9. RECOVERY IS ENDLESS

Psychotherapist reveals the tell-tale signs to know if your partner is a narcissist | Daily Mail Online

What makes it even harder to stomach is if you just look at these two kids on paper, their worth is so disproportionate. She's a model student with her whole life in front of her, he's a burned out slacker going no where. Gotta teach our daughters (or gay sons) that nothing in life is worth hitching your wagon to someone even 10% as douchey as BT because at best, it'll make you miserable and at worst, it gets you shot.

 

[Sunshinyday]

This has probably been answered and I just missed it. I have worked in the legal system for many years and should know this, but I always thought cases went to grand jury because there was some question about sufficient evidence to indict. Am I wrong about that?

I thought the same. Haven’t seen anywhere that he was being held on an open count of murder....maybe they will decide another murder charge if she were indeed pregnant.

 

[afitzy]

Who was Ally Kostial? Friends, social media show picture of student’s life

 

[afitzy]

https://www.*************/5553788/b...-kostial-called-women-his-flavor-of-the-week/

Quotes from article:



'In the case of 22-year-old Brandon Theesfeld, those who knew him claimed he was known for playing around with women’s emotions. One of those women was reportedly 21-year-old Ally Kostial. Ally and Theesfeld were both students at the University of Mississippi. Ally’s friends say she loved Brandon, but he led her on and manipulated her".



"On July 20, she was found with eight bullet wounds. Theesfeld has since been arrested in connection with her murder. Now, those that formally knew Theesfeld recall the warning signs he displayed of violent behavior, according to WDAM 7 News".


‘It could have been me’: Woman talks about dates with Brandon Theesfeld

Quotes from article:


By Therese Apel | July 25, 2019 at 7:54 PM CDT - Updated July 26 at 11:42 AM


JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - Brandon Theesfeld knows how to have a party, his friends said. He also loves the ladies, talking about finding a “flavor of the week” when he would go out looking for his next conquest.

“I want her number, dog…” he can be heard saying in a video submitted to WLBT in which he’s holding up his cell phone with a girl’s social media page pulled up.

"He’s the 22-year-old Ole Miss student charged with murder in the death of Ally Kostial, who was the president of the golf club at Ole Miss, as well as a founder in her sorority, and had many other accomplishments on her resume. She was ambitious and kind, by all accounts, and loved everyone she met".

“She would set goals in her mind and she would make those goals and go beyond that,” said Maddy Norris, a friend of Kostial’s in St. Louis, her hometown. “She kept telling us, like, I want to go to Ole Miss and she accomplished that goal and she went to Ole Miss and did everything that she ever wanted to do there.”

"But while she was at Ole Miss, she met Brandon Theesfeld. The two dated off and on for a few years, friends said, and Kostial saw the good in him and thought she could save him".

"Theesfeld, known as a lady’s man to say the least, allegedly tried to bed as many women as he could. And friends said he would speak derogatorily about women regularly. A retweet on his Twitter account shows a woman sitting on a bench, and a sniper rifle in a separate pane and says, “She’ll never see it coming.”

 

[justbeachy]

Thought regarding his choice of "You Dropped A Bomb on Me" as the song he mentioned. Apparently he was dropped by his fraternity during pledging (no link for that...read it on here somewhere), but does anyone know WHICH fraternity he was pledging? Reason being...the Sigma Nu chapter at my school used that song as "their" song and even had a dance to it. (I may have done that dance many times, but that's a story for another day.) They used that song because the pilot of the Enola Gay (that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima) was a member of the Sigma Nu fraternity. Not sure if that was just the chapter at my school or if all chapters use it.

Probably a stretch, but that may explain why a song that old was in his thoughts.

Edited to add: Just read that he MAY have pledged Beta Theta Pi which would make all of this irrelevant. Maybe it will win you a prize in a contest of useless trivia.

 

[Seattle1]

Thought regarding his choice of "You Dropped A Bomb on Me" as the song he mentioned. Apparently he was dropped by his fraternity during pledging (no link for that...read it on here somewhere), but does anyone know WHICH fraternity he was pledging? Reason being...the Sigma Nu chapter at my school used that song as "their" song and even had a dance to it. (I may have done that dance many times, but that's a story for another day.) They used that song because the pilot of the Enola Gay (that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima) was a member of the Sigma Nu fraternity. Not sure if that was just the chapter at my school or if all chapters use it.

Probably a stretch, but that may explain why a song that old was in his thoughts.

Edited to add: Just read that he MAY have pledged Beta Theta Pi which would make all of this irrelevant. Maybe it will win you a prize in a contest of useless trivia.

From thread one -- we know that BT was not a fraternity member when arrested, and that he was released from organization he joined in 2016.

We we can eliminate Sigma Pi because he did not pledge the same house as his friend.

The fraternity that released BT has not been identified.

Wright and Theesfeld went through fraternity recruitment together during the fall of 2016. The two did not end up in the same fraternity – Wright joined Sigma Pi and Theesfeld joined another organization before being released.


https://m.oxfordeagle.com/2019/07/2...as-normal-days-prior-to-ally-kostials-murder/

 

[Seattle1]

It was revealed earlier that BT is a fan of incarcerated rapper "Tikashi 69" who BT allegedly modeled the photos below. BT posted them to his social media.

Certain lyrics from the song "She dropped a bomb on me" have also been attached to rappers, gangsters, etc. that are in prison including Tikashi 69.

(Lyrics already posted in threads 1 & 2).

Use your own judgement and/or prison urban dictionary....

Therese Apel‏Verified account @TRex21

I have #exclusive photos and video of Brandon Theesfeld that we’ll show you on @WLBT and @Fox40News tonight. Here you see him with a hitler mustache and “69” drawn on his head.

Therese Apel‏Verified account @TRex21
Therese Apel Retweeted Therese Apel

FYI, that's Tikashi 69 he modeled it after -- a rapper who is in prison for racketeering and was also charged with raping a young teen girl.

9:55 AM - 25 Jul 2019 from Jackson, MS pst

 

[Seattle1]

What makes it even harder to stomach is if you just look at these two kids on paper, their worth is so disproportionate. She's a model student with her whole life in front of her, he's a burned out slacker going no where. Gotta teach our daughters (or gay sons) that nothing in life is worth hitching your wagon to someone even 10% as douchey as BT because at best, it'll make you miserable and at worst, it gets you shot.

Actually, it's the narc/sociopath that hitches his/her wagon to our daughters and sons. They are frauds, and seek to associate and be connected to the respected, loved, and model student here as a means to elevate themselves.

The narc/socio introduction is masterful, and initial love bombing is pure manipulation in the greatest sense. And victims spend most of the relationship trying to get that charming, interested, attentive, person back.

Narc/socio also won't like your friends, or want to be around them as they are afraid of being exposed.

I've no doubt that Ally walked away more than once during the last 3 years only to be reeled back in by BT's false, manipulating self. Countless quotes how BT took advantage of Ally, and led her on -- apparent to everybody but Ally. He was a powerful drug to her.

In addition to teaching our sons and daughters to stay away from the disordered, it's very important to make them aware of the tell tale signs of narcissism before they begin dating.

Most recent case I can think of was TN high school student Emma Walker shot while she slept after breaking up with her boyfriend. Her parents working to make signs of unhealthy relationships HS curriculum.

MOO

 

[Quill]

From thread one -- we know that BT was not a fraternity member when arrested, and that he was released from organization he joined in 2016.

We we can eliminate Sigma Pi because he did not pledge the same house as his friend.

The fraternity that released BT has not been identified.

Wright and Theesfeld went through fraternity recruitment together during the fall of 2016. The two did not end up in the same fraternity – Wright joined Sigma Pi and Theesfeld joined another organization before being released.


https://m.oxfordeagle.com/2019/07/2...as-normal-days-prior-to-ally-kostials-murder/

He very well might not have even joined a group. Many drop out during the pledging process. Since I haven't seen any pics of him wearing letters, I would think there is a good chance of that. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

He very well might not have even joined a group. Many drop out during the pledging process. Since I haven't seen any pics of him wearing letters, I would think there is a good chance of that. JMO

I thought the msn report of BT being released was telling.

And yes, it's very common for students to voluntarily drop out of rush.

MOO

 

[borndem]

Thank you kindly for the friendly Cliff Notes version of justice Oxford, MS style!

I do not believe for a second that any family seeking justice for a brutal murder would want anything sealed and certainly not this early, in what no doubt might be a protracted process of litigation.

We don't know who ordered the seal and why but we do know that the press were having difficulty even getting the charges confirmed from LE. Charges so far as I'm aware in most jurisdictions are a matter of public record. Perhaps this isn't the case in Oxford or Mississippi as I haven't had a chance to look? Or do the press routinely have to use Freedom of Information to confirm charges with LE?

Its interesting that prosecuting this case you wouldn't lead the charges with double murder rather than your suggested path of AK murder and then plead? Why plead at all if the facts are as strong as they appear to be here?

Fact pattern appears clear: Victim died a violent death with 8 gunshots to the abdomen and was left abandoned. Victim was found w/i 8 hrs of death I believe and given the nature of the crime the autopsy would have been expedited (or I hope it would have been). This point is unclear though as someone in the prior thread said there was a 'back up' with the coroner and a backlog existed so we don't know when it was completed.

So, assuming coroner was delayed by 7 days or so its likely the process is now done and pregnancy confirmed as well with additional tests such as DNA and tox pending. A surprising number of basic DNA tests can be completed w/i 24 hrs while much longer waits for more complex testing is the norm.

This isn't a case where the body was impacted by decomp and the elements and victim ID was in question. The body was fresh, ID existed and so when body was found the autopsy could proceed quickly with no issue.

Still no additional charges when the information exists to do so. My original question was why not?

Facts of the case look relatively simple so not sure why so many folks seem determined to make things more complicated than they are? Suspect was arrested quickly too so its not like we have a manhunt on our hands. About the only positive thing I have to say in all this is that there has been no bond yet and the suspect remains in jail.

Having everything sealed is the usual process when investigating a crime and for the principals who will be preparing for prosecution and defense.
If it does go to trial -- and I am confident that it will -- a jury will have to be chosen, witnesses, etc., will testify, etc., so all things must be kept close due to those factors. Certainly the press will have to be prevented from trying this thing in the media.

Her parents, I would think, would not want anyone to see the autopsy evidence, and **** that he is, the defendant has a right to a fair trial -- and his attorneys will do their best to burn whoever lets any details be known to the public. That's why details, evidence, who will testify, etc., -- everything must be kept under wraps.
So we wait...