MS - Alexandria "Ally" Kostial, 21, Ole Miss student, found dead, Harmontown, 20 July 2019 *ARREST*

[Prthd]

Speculation about pregnancy is a mute point. Speculate about how many times she was shot or if she was shot in the front and in the back. MOO

 

[MemPat]

Did they already have a funeral for Ally? I can't help thinking that if she was pregnant that would have been revealed publically by now. Wouldn't her family have wanted to honor the life of the baby in a memorial service as well? If the family didn't know that would surprise me. Would LE really keep pregnancy a secret from her family when releasing her body to them and/or would her family really continue to keep a pregnancy quiet if they knew about it?

MOO

If Ally was pregnant (and that is a big if) and had not chosen to reveal it publicly, maybe her family would honor that at her funeral and perhaps, forever. Maybe they would have a separate private service for the baby?

 

[Destini]

OLE MISS STUDENT MURDER: Murdered Ole Miss student would talk through tears about unknown boy, roommate says

“She said Kostial would talk through tears about a boy but never gave his name.

“All she would say was, ‘One day he says he loves me and the next day he doesn’t,’” Riddick said.

And Riddick said Kostial deserved love because she opened her heart up to everyone.”

Not sure if this article has been posted. Nothing much new though.

Also from this article:

"However, when the mug shot for Theesfeld came out, Riddick told FOX13 she had no idea who he was. She was confused."

So this is bizarre to me. She was Ally's roommate for a year and a half, and she never heard his name and didn't recognize him???

 

[borndem]

I find it really strange that he had nothing to say on social media about Ally being found dead.
For all intents and purposes, they were friends or even more than that at some point. And he was, allegedly, with her shortly before her being murder. With people with a big social media presence suddendly go quiet, it's usually a red flag.

Totally agree -- surely their GF/BF relationship wasn't that big of a secret, was it? At least some people knew about it. And even if he wanted people to think she was just a friend, could he not have said something about missing her, maybe the sorority that his sister shared with her, or the golf thing, or just a fellow student at Ol' Miss? I'm sure many people who didn't know or had never met her had something to say and mourned the loss. She was a human being taken 'way too early.
Maybe he was just too broken up about losing such a wonderful friend, that he couldn't express himself so soon after the tragedy -- yeah, that must be it.
Another little telling mistake?? What an azz.
Wonder if he's starting to like those jailhouse meals? Making friends? And no beer, pot or other fun pastimes. Sober up, dude.

 

[borndem]

Good luck to the defense team. By all accounts, this guy was a real Grade-A piece of crap who was entitled, arrogant, gun-toting, and in an on-again, off-again abusive relationship with the victim. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put together the pieces, and that is without any additional ballistics, blood, or electronic evidence they likely have. The only one who seems shocked by the possibility of this high-class misogynistic jerk being the perpetrator is Daddy Dearest.

I'm still betting 3--7 years, possibly just probation and community service. And boy, do I hope I am (modsnip - ‘wrong’ instead of snipped phrase>

 

[borndem]

Did they already have a funeral for Ally? I can't help thinking that if she was pregnant that would have been revealed publically by now. Wouldn't her family have wanted to honor the life of the baby in a memorial service as well? If the family didn't know that would surprise me. Would LE really keep pregnancy a secret from her family when releasing her body to them and/or would her family really continue to keep a pregnancy quiet if they knew about it?

MOO

bbm
I don't see LE keeping it from the family -- especially if there were a fetus found -- the little life that was there belonged to her parents, too -- unless the parents did not want to know any details at all about the autopsy, and I cannot see her family requesting to hear nothing about COD and other details. But they could have requested to keep it away from the public -- plus I imagine that a judge has asked to keep the autopsy sealed at this time.
And I can't imagine her family not thinking about a possible pregnancy as motive. JMHO.

 

[MemPat]

Also from this article:

"However, when the mug shot for Theesfeld came out, Riddick told FOX13 she had no idea who he was. She was confused."

So this is bizarre to me. She was Ally's roommate for a year and a half, and she never heard his name and didn't recognize him???

He doesn't sound like the Ole Miss man a young woman would be proud to call her boyfriend.

Ally was probably embarrassed to be associated with the known campus drunk/drug dealer who hadn't finished his Sophomore year at 22 years of age.

I wouldn't claim him to my roommate either.

 

[Gardener1850]

If Ally was pregnant (and that is a big if) and had not chosen to reveal it publicly, maybe her family would honor that at her funeral and perhaps, forever. Maybe they would have a separate private service for the baby?

I suppose that is possible but I have never heard of anyone doing that. Plus, since Ally was murdered it will not be a secret forever. Eventually that info will be revealed in trial. MOO.

 

[MemPat]

Totally agree -- surely their GF/BF relationship wasn't that big of a secret, was it? At least some people knew about it. And even if he wanted people to think she was just a friend, could he not have said something about missing her, maybe the sorority that his sister shared with her, or the golf thing, or just a fellow student at Ol' Miss? I'm sure many people who didn't know or had never met her had something to say and mourned the loss. She was a human being taken 'way too early.
Maybe he was just too broken up about losing such a wonderful friend, that he couldn't express himself so soon after the tragedy -- yeah, that must be it.
Another little telling mistake?? What an azz.
Wonder if he's starting to like those jailhouse meals? Making friends? And no beer, pot or other fun pastimes. Sober up, dude.

I would not assume an inmate with plenty of money couldn't get alcohol or pot or whatever in jail these days.

 

[borndem]

I'm still waiting for something official to confirm it before I believe it. I would also think that there would be a charge related to the loss of the baby if she was pregnant. The only charge so far is murder. Unless perhaps those type of charges have to be decided by the Grand Jury? I'm not a lawyer so I don't know...

Here's what I found re Mississippi fetal murder:

Why killing unborn child can be considered murder in Mississippi
Geoff Pender, Mississippi Clarion Ledger Publish
[...]
Mississippi's law on fetal homicide
Here is what you need to know about Mississippi's laws dealing with fetal homicide and fetal harm. State law:

• Describes circumstances when a person may be entitled to bring a wrongful death action, and includes circumstances related to the death of "an unborn quick child." The law excludes acts committed by the mother, a medical procedure performed by a medical professional or lawfully prescribed medication.
• Defines murder to include murder that is done with deliberate design to effect the death of an unborn child.
• Provides a list of the criminal offenses, including murder, homicide and assault, in which the definition of “human being” includes an unborn child at every stage of gestation from conception to live birth.

Why killing unborn child can be considered murder in Mississippi

 

[claudianunes]

I can understand the family trying to keep it private for as long as possible, if she was really pregnant. Also, it's possible that the family was asked to keep it quiet for a little bit, the investigation seems very worried about information getting out. Bottom line is, if she was pregnant the family would know as soon as the autopsy was finished. So, if she was pregnant, they know about it.

 

[MemPat]

Solid timeline for reference:
Timeline: Details surrounding death of Ole Miss student Ally Kostial

Good to see you here, Afitzy! Welcome to the south!

 

[borndem]

I would not assume an inmate with plenty of money couldn't get alcohol or pot or whatever in jail these days.

Yeah, but he's got to find someone in there who will trust him not to snitch (as they say). That may take a little while.
But, he could already be lying on his nasty prison pillow just buzzin'. And munchies, too, since I'm thinking his canteen account is already well-funded. Maybe it's not so bad there ..

 

[Gardener1850]

Here's what I found re Mississippi fetal murder:


Why killing unborn child can be considered murder in Mississippi

That's what I found as well. I know laws on this vary state-to-state but it appears that Mississippi takes murder of a pregnant woman seriously and there would have been an extra murder charge if Ally was pregnant at the time she was shot. Not that they can't add a charge later. That might still happen. But I'm going to wait patiently before assuming that was the motive for murder. I can think of other scenarios (some that may even involve a pregnancy discussion between 2 parties) that end with Ally not actually being pregnant when she was murdered. MOO.

 

[borndem]

JMO, but I'm fairly certain if there was any slight mention of pregnancy during an autopsy, there'd be a murder a charge and at the least the media would be all over that.

If the autopsy and other evidential items, etc., have been put under seal, MSM should not be able to see any of it. Very common, especially at this state of a case. Secondary, tertiary, etc., charges do not have to be filed right away.
We'll see...

 

[afitzy]

bbm
I don't see LE keeping it from the family -- especially if there were a fetus found -- the little life that was there belonged to her parents, too -- unless the parents did not want to know any details at all about the autopsy, and I cannot see her family requesting to hear nothing about COD and other details. But they could have requested to keep it away from the public -- plus I imagine that a judge has asked to keep the autopsy sealed at this time.
And I can't imagine her family not thinking about a possible pregnancy as motive. JMHO.

The earlier quote from the coroner about maintaining information until trial leads me to suspect that there is more to this story than gunshot death.

Way more and they are closing the vault on info leaking to make sure that their case is air tight! MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

I can understand the family trying to keep it private for as long as possible, if she was really pregnant. Also, it's possible that the family was asked to keep it quiet for a little bit, the investigation seems very worried about information getting out. Bottom line is, if she was pregnant the family would know as soon as the autopsy was finished. So, if she was pregnant, they know about it.

It's possible he thought she was pregnant but she wasn't. A few different situations are possibilities. Whatever the case, he shot repeated at her torso which I find unusual.

jmo

 

[afitzy]

If the autopsy and other evidential items, etc., have been put under seal, MSM should not be able to see any of it. Very common, especially at this state of a case. Secondary, tertiary, etc., charges do not have to be filed right away.
We'll see...

We have seen any number of similar cases over the years and I'm not sure that an immediate seal by the court is that typical.

There is something about the circumstances of this murder that is resulting in this level of care/secrecy IMO.

I respect the choices of LE if it is being done to not put case in jeopardy but if this is being done to whitewash or protect either the suspect or other parties unknown then I would think the public outcry would be real.
MOO

 

[borndem]

That's what I found as well. I know laws on this vary state-to-state but it appears that Mississippi takes murder of a pregnant woman seriously and there would have been an extra murder charge if Ally was pregnant at the time she was shot. Not that they can't add a charge later. That might still happen. But I'm going to wait patiently before assuming that was the motive for murder. I can think of other scenarios (some that may even involve a pregnancy discussion between 2 parties) that end with Ally not actually being pregnant when she was murdered. MOO.

bbm
Same here, Gardener. We're in that usual long waiting period now, where info, facts, pressers, etc., are few and far between. Sometimes we hear about additional charges, sometimes we don't.
One thing we would hear is a plea deal, and I'm pretty confident that we won't hear that on this one.
A Wrongful Death Suit could be initiated by her family, but I think it may be too soon to initiate a WDS at this time. Dunno.
JMO.
One of our usual mantras applies here:
So we wait...

 

[Joe Friday]

bbm
Same here, Gardener. We're in that usual long waiting period now, where info, facts, pressers, etc., are few and far between. Sometimes we hear about additional charges, sometimes we don't.
One thing we would hear is a plea deal, and I'm pretty confident that we won't hear that on this one.
A Wrongful Death Suit could be initiated by her family, but I think it may be too soon to initiate a WDS at this time. Dunno.
JMO.
One of our usual mantras applies here:
So we wait...

Are plea deals allowed in murder cases in Mississippi?