MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #4

[anonone]

I agree, with one caveat. It is only my opinion, but I believe that the chatter on social media just before and immediately after contains the most truthful information. There has been a sense of security in this town for a long time now. People have literally been getting away with murder so why think this time would be any different. Chatter doesn't happen on the streets anymore. It happens online.

When private online info became public, it became eerily quiet. And until some time passes and that sense of security returns, it will remain quiet. Unless there is some forensic evidence to link to those responsible, it will be a long time before this case is solved if LE is hoping "chatter on the streets" will solve this case because the chatter has stopped.

Just my two cents.

Let's be honest, proactive LE can book anyone at anytime.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Wish we knew. Hope LE is honing in. Another wild guess would be some severely desperate meth head/s on a party night and they ran into her by chance. I mean, who does what for money, love, for a high, creds or whatever and tell themselves' what afterwards?

That's the wildcard, a serial killer /mentally ill person, white supremacy group or a random gang initiation. However that autopsy will eliminate many and tell alot about the perps involved if it doesn't tell exactly who they are...

 

[WhoaIsMe]

I look at this case of who has the motive and means. (modsmip) Mr Mister however has the means for sure, motive not sure. His recent charges are troubling, he seems like a dealer type, past money owed or fear of testimony fits the bill jmo.

Jessica loved her new job at Goodys so i severely doubt she was one of his band of earners. Personally i see the Disciples as a band of wannabes unlike Mister's crew. (modsnip) So i don't see Rudd involved either as his call out of his brothers tells me he cared for Jessica still. However when Mister spoke to the reporters that's seems a sign he has nothing to hide, an experienced man with law troubles would know to keep quiet, say little. Of course he has done two stretches so that may say alot too.

The new boyfriend ? I just don't see that either. And if they were in a relationship i would expect some media expression of that. She was proud of her relationship with Rudd. I would expect her phone would show without doubt if she was heavily involved with the alleged new beau.

So who's the wildcard in all this ? Any other's with motive and the means to pull it off ?

BBM I've asked before in one of these threads if anyone knew when BR moved. Reason being her stay in a women's shelter and her dad's comment at her memorial. If it's been a long time, then who abused her? Who was the reason she was in a shelter?

 

[FindHG]

That's the wildcard, a serial killer /mentally ill person, white supremacy group or a random gang initiation. However that autopsy will eliminate many and tell alot about the perps involved if it doesn't tell exactly who they are...

I'm kind of counting on it. They may have a lot to go on from the scene, besides her previous communications. There's something about the placement, where this happened exactly that makes it less then random, but I have nothing for sure to base that on.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

I agree, with one caveat. It is only my opinion, but I believe that the chatter on social media just before and immediately after contains the most truthful information. There has been a sense of security in this town for a long time now. People have literally been getting away with murder so why think this time would be any different. Chatter doesn't happen on the streets anymore. It happens online.

When private online info became public, it became eerily quiet. And until some time passes and that sense of security returns, it will remain quiet. Unless there is some forensic evidence to link to those responsible, it will be a long time before this case is solved if LE is hoping "chatter on the streets" will solve this case because the chatter has stopped.

Just my two cents.

If i'm a gang leader and i want her gone i only tell the guys in my crew i can trust and who can do the job, limiting it to maybe 3 guys total including myself who know. The rest of the gang doesn't need to know. Therefore chatter would be nil and if there was any i would know who the leak was. Just a thought. Let's hope forensics and the autopsy tell her story for her.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

That's also a good thought. We absolutely know she had been around bad elements in her home life. No way around it considering what is public record. And these are facts, not mere sleuthing of family members. Facts found easily and confirmed by media links. If my dad was arrested for manufacturing, possession or anything involving meth I would be out of that house asap. Considering JC probably had no real funds maybe she went to a shelter. I still respect the pastor who spoke at her memorial and said he would not "out" her nor their conversations in her death. There were some serious problems since JC's childhood in my honest opinion, and I for one believe they didn't start with her. JMO

BBM

But I thought her dad was arrested in '03. That would make her eight.

 

[anonone]

If i'm a gang leader and i want her gone i only tell the guys in my crew i can trust and who can do the job, limiting it to maybe 3 guys total including myself who know. The rest of the gang doesn't need to know. Therefore chatter would be nil and if there was any i would know who the leak was. Just a thought. Let's hope forensics and the autopsy tell her story for her.

I truly believe that gangs are not affiliated with this considering the USP football family et al. If anything, gangs probably would be upset. JMO

 

[Topcat]

good catch. That is odd.

What's so odd about them contacting the 911 caller? I've called it ,had a disconnect from my cellphone and they called me back. Unless it was a throw away phone I would think tracing the caller wouldn't be so hard.

 

[anonone]

If i'm a gang leader and i want her gone i only tell the guys in my crew i can trust and who can do the job, limiting it to maybe 3 guys total including myself who know. The rest of the gang doesn't need to know. Therefore chatter would be nil and if there was any i would know who the leak was. Just a thought. Let's hope forensics and the autopsy tell her story for her.

If a gang member participated, they would have been booked and held on a probation violation. I believe the gang angle is a distraction.

 

[Gypsy Road]

LOL We just call them coke. All of them. Person 1: "What kind of coke would you like?" Person 2: "Dr Pepper"

Same here! You aren't from the Florida panhandle are you? lol

 

[Gypsy Road]

I agree, with one caveat. It is only my opinion, but I believe that the chatter on social media just before and immediately after contains the most truthful information. There has been a sense of security in this town for a long time now. People have literally been getting away with murder so why think this time would be any different. Chatter doesn't happen on the streets anymore. It happens online.

When private online info became public, it became eerily quiet. And until some time passes and that sense of security returns, it will remain quiet. Unless there is some forensic evidence to link to those responsible, it will be a long time before this case is solved if LE is hoping "chatter on the streets" will solve this case because the chatter has stopped.

Just my two cents.

Agree totally!!!

 

[flatfootjoe]

I know I made one cryptic comment today, and I'm sorry if that frustrated any of you. It was my way of saying "I've made a list of cryptic clues over the last couple of days and I've figured out what y'all are on about"

Not completely, but still ...

FWIW I still don't have a foggy clue about what did happen to JC. There are still too many possibilities. I do appreciate hearing everyone's varying opinions and turning them over in my mind. So, thank you all for sharing your thoughts.

I hope LE have something real to go on, not just theories and conjecture like we have here. I pity them for all the weight they carry when horrible things like this happen and the answers don't come easy.

BBM. I'm sure you aren't the only person who has done that, intentionally or unintentionally. I know I did it, and I should have gotten my roasted for it. Instead I got inquiries, lots of them, and I felt I owed the people who asked, explanations. They deserved it, and at very least I tried to explain what I knew. No super secret insider info, I wish I had that, because if I did I wouldn't be here searching for others opinions, theories, suspicions or conjecture. I've formed my opinion of what happened based on the location, condition of the car, and the method of the crime. I'm down to who.

The biggest problem with this case is so little publicly exposed evidence, and almost every public statement is open to skepticism. Back to day one, how/where was Jessica found, did she coherently and accurately "give names", was she at a party, how much gas did she buy. The fact that we have so little we can discuss conclusively, every point can be a point of contention. People are segregating themselves into camps, accident, gang related, redneck justice, spurned lover, or any possible combination of the whole. That's not to mention the race baiters on both sides of the coin trying to inflame every tertiary news outlet they can find. Speculation is rampant, and will continue to be so until we haven't reason to speculate.

We can't speculate specifically aloud however without corroborating and approved sources. I know why I did what I did, and it wasn't for the attention, although I got more than I hoped to. It was a stupid mistake and I won't repeat it. It did prove to me though, no one here has any inside information, and once those acting like they do compile everything they think you know, your usefulness expires. Now that isn't to say some will call you to task for being stupid, because many will, and it's fair punishment

No one here has any super secret inside info, and if they did, the disservice they're doing to Jessica by not disseminating it to the proper authorities is shameful. The reason you're only seeing certain things here is because they're unsubstantiated conjecture. Hell the blog sites would eat it right up if they thought it had any value, or truth to it.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

I'm kind of counting on it. They may have a lot to go on from the scene, besides her previous communications. There's something about the placement, where this happened exactly that makes it less then random, but I have nothing for sure to base that on.

Yes even the accelerant will tell much about the perps, gasoline blends and such or a certain type of solvent/fuel and who bought some recently. And yes that spot holds many clues. I heard alot of talk here about cars and mufflers, my neighbor has a cheap baffled muffler on his old Honda, he's 20... I can hear him a 1/4 mile away, comes in all hours. Also there's a truck who comes home every weeknight around 3-3:20, wakes me up usually. I live in a rural quiet area, crickets are loud after 10...

So i definitely could see that guy who said they had a loud exhaust as credible, especially these little 4 cylinder jobs kids trick out nowadays. And some guys around here have motorcycles louder than any car i've ever heard, one left me deaf temporarily at a light recently, had to be 130 decibels. I wanted to run that kid over it hurt so bad... So a motorcycle could have been used to run her down on that road, just a wild thought. Praying on those results here.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

Same here! You aren't from the Florida panhandle are you? lol

Mobile

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Just scuttlebutt but i read she recently broke up with her boyfriend, her note to niece (?) suggests he broke it off but who knows. Rudd was long gone when this happened, i'm thinking it was the football guy but just not enough info. Father says she wasn't seeing anyone, others say different. Not sure but cops know for sure i believe, the phone would tell. As far as the abuse i read various stories but nothing to substantiate. I'm not sure if she was at that shelter for abuse or addiction or both, no one seems to know positively. May or may not have any bearing on murder though. Not alot of answers...

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Hope the cops looked at any of the suspects with crotch rockets...some are louder than cars/trucks.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Which gang ? That assumes the cops know who the gang is and the members are, who in this case, allegedly did this. I'm saying they may have no idea who actually did this because no one but two or three were involved and discussed it. The only clue would be dna and if the perps had previously been arrested and had stored dna in the FBI database.

 

[southernyankee]

What's so odd about them contacting the 911 caller? I've called it ,had a disconnect from my cellphone and they called me back. Unless it was a throw away phone I would think tracing the caller wouldn't be so hard.

Not odd at all. I am sure there are means of tracing that call, but it's also entirely possible that the original caller was cooperative or willfully contacted the authorities again to make some sort of confidential witness statement. I highly doubt whoever initially made the call is unaware of all the publicity that has transpired since.

 

[FindHG]

Which gang ? That assumes the cops know who the gang is and the members are, who in this case, allegedly did this. I'm saying they may have no idea who actually did this because no one but two or three were involved and discussed it. The only clue would be dna and if the perps had previously been arrested and had stored dna in the FBI database.

To take your reasoning another step, if it was a local baddie who may have contracted outsiders, to keep it more of a secret, why then would he chose a locale that would point locally? DNA, footprints, other evidence from the scene, or somebody may have found or know about, more information is the only direction this case is going in, not less, by momentum, and an incredible amount of exposure and ground-truthing going on, as evidenced by the SM maelstrom.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

True. But some of these motorcycles with the baffled exhaust could be mistaken for a 4 cylinder inside a house. But the tipster probably would know i bet being he had several vehicles, forgot exactly but i think he had a small fixed up car. Saw a pick on a story, he had 4 vehicles i think.