MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #4

[southernyankee]

It is only my opinion, but I believe that the chatter on social media just before and immediately after contains the most truthful information. There has been a sense of security in this town for a long time now. People have literally been getting away with murder so why think this time would be any different. Chatter doesn't happen on the streets anymore. It happens online.

Ahhh!! Thisthisthis. I agree - for the most part. I don't know that "chatter on the streets" or online will pick back up again necessarily, not so long as the FBI is in town + on this...

"Unless there is some forensic evidence to link to those responsible..."

...let's really hope so. And let's be patient about insisting on any public details so soon on the autopsy. It's bad enough that so many things seem to have been handled less than carefully from the start (the crime scene, the he said/she said as to Jessica's condition, etc.) that if key details are kept entirely locked down til an arrest, all the better. I'm as painfully, to-a-fault curious as anyone, but would rather see the real perp(s) nailed in an airtight way first.

 

[Gypsy Road]

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HA HA! I KNEW it! Pensacola here!

 

[southernyankee]

With regard to getting positive forensic evidence back from the lab: Is that enough for an arrest? I'm sure "it depends" is the best answer here, but... any insight from anyone more knowledgeable here would be excellent.

Personally: I'd hope LE would return(?) to whomever it implicated for another, more focused round of questioning (without initially revealing why). Part of me feels strongly that more than one person out there did this or knows for certain who did. I want to see them all outed + the complicity ring totally broken.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

To take your reasoning another step, if it was a local baddie who may have contracted outsiders, to keep it more of a secret, why then would he chose a locale that would point locally? DNA, footprints, other evidence from the scene, or somebody may have found or know about, more information is the only direction this case is going in, not less, by momentum, and an incredible amount of exposure and ground-truthing going on, as evidenced by the SM maelstrom.

I can't say for sure. He may have used local guys too not out of towners. I wouldn't want to kidnap Jessica in her car and drive anywhere where a camera would pick up the car. So that spot was perfect in a sense that no one saw them, no witnesses , no cameras. If these perps were savvy only the autopsy and forensics would out them if at all, if they're local idiots then all the phone and social media stuff will also point the fingers. Judging by the fact the car didn't blow up and she lived temporarily i would guess they weren't exactly geniuses. So i'm confused as anyone i guess...

 

[flatfootjoe]

True. But some of these motorcycles with the baffled exhaust could be mistaken for a 4 cylinder inside a house. But the tipster probably would know i bet being he had several vehicles, forgot exactly but i think he had a small fixed up car. Saw a pick on a story, he had 4 vehicles i think.

I've heard motorcycles with straight pipes (no muffler inside) that can put cars to shame with regards to noise levels, but they are distinctively loud. The noise is different if you've been around both frequently enough to distinguish. I have quite a bit of hearing loss, and I can. I was a mechanic for many years though.

IMO the level of noise this guy is describing is more than an unmuffled bike, or a Civic with a fart can exhaust. He makes the distinction of REALLY REALLY loud.

See what I mean about every statement being a possible point of contention?

 

[Gypsy Road]

Maybe she had been to that spot before to meet someone? I don't know...just throwing it out there. I don't know the area, but if it was secluded enough maybe it could have been a place where people could meet to talk, make out or whatever.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Ok i have two questions for y'all, what does BBM mean ? :thinking: I see it here every post sometimes... Blackberry Messenger ? Can't be that...

And why do some posts have a thanks tab and some don't ? Just curious and bewildered... I'd like to thank some but can't...

 

[Gypsy Road]

Ok i have two questions for y'all, what does BBM mean ? :thinking: I see it here every post sometimes... Blackberry Messenger ? Can't be that...

And why do some posts have a thanks tab and some don't ? Just curious and bewildered... I'd like to thank some but can't...

BBM Bolded By Me

 

[katydid23]

BBM means Bolded By Me, so when you reply to a post, you can bold the portion you are referring to.

If you refresh the page, ALL the thanks buttons should reappear. It is a weird glitchy thing.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

I've heard motorcycles with straight pipes (no muffler inside) that can put cars to shame with regards to noise levels, but they are distinctively loud. The noise is different if you've been around both frequently enough to distinguish. I have quite a bit of hearing loss, and I can. I was a mechanic for many years though.

IMO the level of noise this guy is describing is more than an unmuffled bike, or a Civic with a fart can exhaust. He makes the distinction of REALLY REALLY loud.

See what I mean about every statement being a possible point of contention?

No doubt. My neighbor has a old Civic and an late 80's Accord, both with cheap tips on them, think he busted the cat out too... I can hear him idling inside the house like he's in my driveway, very annoying, used to look outside all the time... Good kid just young n dumb lol. The motorcycle i heard that deafened me whined like i've never heard one, high pitched, he revved it up before he popped the clutch, my ear was ringing for minutes, i wanted to hurt that lad... but didn't.

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Thanks everyone, mystery solved. Never seen that at other forums, just bolded them if i wanted to .:happydance:

Making rookie moves already...

 

[flatfootjoe]

No doubt. My neighbor has a old Civic and an late 80's Accord, both with cheap tips on them, think he busted the cat out too... I can hear him idling inside the house like he's in my driveway, very annoying, used to look outside all the time... Good kid just young n dumb lol. The motorcycle i heard that deafened me whined like i've never heard one, high pitched, he revved it up before he popped the clutch, my ear was ringing for minutes, i wanted to hurt that lad... but didn't.

Whining when it was idling, or moving? They shouldn't whine at idle ever, sounds like a bad transmission or misaligned chain. Either way, that's a problem that will fix itself

 

[JACKSON JONES]

Whining when it was idling, or moving? They shouldn't whine at idle ever, sounds like a bad transmission or misaligned chain. Either way, that's a problem that will fix itself

It whined when he revved it, like a turbo but crazy loud. Some guys have them on their diesels around here too, crazy loud as well. But that bike was insane, kid will be deaf soon. And he was down the road as fast as i've seen a bike once he got off the line... Kids smh...:guitar:

 

[roadrunnermt]

I am torn between the 3 scenarios and change my mind frequently, love triangle, DV, and gang related. I have another thought on the gang issue though I wanted to see others' opinions. I see everyone talking about gang initiation but what about if JC herself was in a gang and was trying to get out? We know she was trying to clean her life up. We know her ex of 2 yrs is in a gang and appears most of his family is as well and she lived with him and his mother. Could she have joined the gang during their relationship and this was some sort of getting out of the gang punishment that went wrong as per Auntie Sha'Sha's comments?

(MODSNIP)

 

[FindHG]

It looks great although not what I thought it was going to look like. There was supposed to be a wreath on the tree as well as small "Christmas" trees. My biggest concern was more corruption of the crime scene. I pray they took everything they needed to nail the demon or demons that did this to the wall! I do not think that one person did this to her; I think there were at least 2 if not a 3rd

Maybe somebody will plant those trees in her memory. Saw more pictures. Looks beautiful.

 

[FindHG]

I can't say for sure. He may have used local guys too not out of towners. I wouldn't want to kidnap Jessica in her car and drive anywhere where a camera would pick up the car. So that spot was perfect in a sense that no one saw them, no witnesses , no cameras. If these perps were savvy only the autopsy and forensics would out them if at all, if they're local idiots then all the phone and social media stuff will also point the fingers. Judging by the fact the car didn't blow up and she lived temporarily i would guess they weren't exactly geniuses. So i'm confused as anyone i guess...

Yep, agreed, not geniuses with method, maybe a feint to gang activity, so pre-meditated somehow? Agree about what you say about the spot. Location may have been to either to distract, personal or convenient or a combination of them all. Very confusing.

 

[SeeAlice]

If an accelerant was used, what kind of container would a perpetrator transport it in?

Would this container have been apparent to JC when she picked up or met alleged perpetrator?

Would such a container survive the resulting fire?

Would an alleged perpetrator be more likely to leave the container in/at the scene of the fire or to take it with him/her?

What is the likelihood anyone with a supposed reason to torture and murder JC could successfully pull off the "perfect crime" and get away with murder?

 

[flatfootjoe]

Saw the name Lakedrick on the crew list. Sounds a bit like Eric or Derrick.

There are so many names and aliases in that area derived from rick, jerrick, lakedrick, ssedrick, eric, derrick, you could spend weeks just trying to document all of them. No exaggeration, no humor intended.

 

[skibaboo]

Ok i have two questions for y'all, what does BBM mean ? :thinking: I see it here every post sometimes... Blackberry Messenger ? Can't be that...

And why do some posts have a thanks tab and some don't ? Just curious and bewildered... I'd like to thank some but can't...

:welcome: to WS !

This thread might be useful Websleuths Lingo

I wish I found it when I first joined, I had some acronyms wrong for a long time lol

 

[505]

Does anyone know JC's activity the night before (i.e., Friday December 5th)? According to USA Today, her mother states that she worked at Goody's on Friday and came home went to bed and slept most of the next day. I am wondering if this is true. When I was 19, yes I liked to sleep but not all day unless I was out partying the night before. Also can anyone confirm if they served a warrant on that cameras at the gas station. I have cameras at my house and they record over a month worth of footage. Seeing that the gas station was a frequented spot, the footage may have evidence or leads on there, not necessarily the night of December 6th but the days/weeks leading up to it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/woman-set-on-fire/20195725/