MS - Sr. Margaret Held & Sr. Paula Merrill, murdered, Durant, 25 Aug 2016 *Arrest*

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  • #41
This is just unreal. It seems obvious to me that he is a career criminal, and has no business in the real world. He deserves to be jailed for eternity. In my opinion, pond scum deserve no slack. And I will never support a prison system that keeps the worst of the worst segregated from the gen pop for their own protection. Kansas couldn't give serial killer BTK the death penalty because the time period he committed his murders there was no death penalty. I forvdt how many life sentences he was given. But the way I feel about him possibly being tortured and killed by the gen pop? BIG DEAL SO WHAT WHO CARES! He brutally murdered 11 or 12 people, he didn't show them any decency or concern, so why should he be given any? Same goes for this useless dirtbag!
 
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colette said:
I wonder if the women were targeted because they were nuns? Makes me think about Rev Carol Daniels.
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Have they made an arrest in that murder?

There has been a rash of attacks on clergy with the murder of reverend Daniels, a priest murdered in Arizona in the course of a burglary. Another priest left for dead in the same attack , a rotestant pastor attacked in Dallas (motive was ostensibly a burglary) and also left for dead while the church secretary was killed during the attack. I think a black gospel pastor was also killed in Texas. These cases (though Reverend Daniels may of been directly target as part of the clergy) seem to have some things in common:

- A mundane motive (burglary). Perpetrator then goes into extremely vicious, over kill violence. When caught, the perpetrators really cant explain why they killed the victims, nor can they explain the over kill violence. Even the ostensible motive of burglary makes little sense as the churches / victims were in poor areas and obviously had little of value.

Going way out on a limb, I am thinking of two possibilities:

A. As society secularizes, the respect that society once had (even the criminal part of society) for clergy is no longer there. Thus, they have lost their traditional veil of protection.
B. These attacks on clergy are evidence of an increased demonic presence in the world and those perpetrating the attacks are demonically possessed.

I know that possibility "B" is going to be rejected by some, or perhaps many people. I am unsure what I think, but I cant dismiss 'B'. . I"ll get off my soap box now.... .
 
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colette said:
Ok, here we go.... "On Saturday, Strain told CBS News that authorities believe that robbery was the “least likely” motive for the killings and that a home invasion was also unlikely." .......Since they were on to the suspect "early on" robbery was not the motive.

Also "he confessed" now.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sheriff...uns-in-mississippi/?google_editors_picks=true
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Alrighty then. IF if was not robbery why did he do it...
AND if he broke into their home isn't that considered a home invasion?
But he confessed. They said.
I am just tossing things out here but I hope and pray they got the right guy...
I do know when they are trying to get a confession out of someone ( if they don't lawyer up I suppose ) detectives can question them aggressively for hours on end....
Oh my head....
 
  • #45
Flatbush said:
Alrighty then. IF if was not robbery why did he do it...
AND if he broke into their home isn't that considered a home invasion?
But he confessed. They said.
I am just tossing things out here but I hope and pray they got the right guy...
I do know when they are trying to get a confession out of someone ( if they don't lawyer up I suppose ) detectives can question them aggressively for hours on end....
Oh my head....
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My understanding is the doors were not locked, so he didn't have to break in. I wonder what the early evidence was that lead them to him. IMHO, this confession is going to be legit and hopefully legal.
 
  • #46
Maybe he left fingerprints at the door he used to get into the apartment or maybe the found the knife he killed them with in the house or car and that had fingerprints..just a thought..I don't know if this guy has been in jail before or for what.or maybe he had a previous altercation with them another day..I am sure eventually it will come up.
Jax49 said:
My understanding is the doors were not locked, so he didn't have to break in. I wonder what the early evidence was that lead them to him. IMHO, this confession is going to be legit and hopefully legal.
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madamx said:
Maybe he left fingerprints at the door he used to get into the apartment or maybe the found the knife he killed them with in the house or car and that had fingerprints..just a thought..I don't know if this guy has been in jail before or for what.or maybe he had a previous altercation with them another day..I am sure eventually it will come up.
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He did have a record so fingerprints makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
 
  • #48
Maureen Smith, a spokeswoman for the Catholic Diocese of Jackson, said there were signs of a break-in at the home and the nuns' vehicle was missing.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/article97854957.html

Sanders had a criminal record.

He was convicted last year of a felony DUI, said Grace Simmons Fisher, a spokeswoman for the Mississippi Department of Corrections.

He was later released from prison and is currently on probation.

Sanders was also convicted of armed robbery in Holmes County, sentenced in 1986 and served six years, Fisher said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-28-01-27-59
 
  • #49
Elley Mae said:
Maureen Smith, a spokeswoman for the Catholic Diocese of Jackson, said there were signs of a break-in at the home and the nuns' vehicle was missing.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nation-world/article97854957.html

Sanders had a criminal record.

He was convicted last year of a felony DUI, said Grace Simmons Fisher, a spokeswoman for the Mississippi Department of Corrections.

He was later released from prison and is currently on probation.

Sanders was also convicted of armed robbery in Holmes County, sentenced in 1986 and served six years, Fisher said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-08-28-01-27-59
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Apologies for posting apparently incorrect info about the doors being unlocked. Don't know where I got that from...
 
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This is just crazy. He has confessed, but not given a motive? There's another murder happened last year or year before. They are going to trial soon, or the trial is in progress by now. I would like to know that both of these men had some kind of reasons for killing people. If nothing else, the victims families have a right to know! I don't believe somebody gets out of bed one morning and decides I think I'll kill somebody today.
 
  • #54
I wonder if the man had to kill them because they knew him from their clinic and could identify him. Otherwise, why the need to murder to steal a car?
 
  • #55
12madelyn said:
I wonder if the man had to kill them because they knew him from their clinic and could identify him. Otherwise, why the need to murder to steal a car?
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Everything I have read says he did not go to the clinic. He didn't kill them to steal the car. The car was found very close to the murder scene. He probably used the car as a get-away only to abandon it as soon as he could.
 
  • #56
Do you know what a motive could be? It had to have been something. Could it have been a sexual assault. Ugh. I cringe to think that, but it why were they chosen?
 
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Jax49 said:
Apologies for posting apparently incorrect info about the doors being unlocked. Don't know where I got that from...
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Jax, at least one of the articles said that the left their door open during certain times of the day, into the evening. as sort of a drop in place. That is probably where you got the idea of the open doors. tho i think the incident happened outside of these hours, thus locked doors.
 
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12madelyn said:
I wonder if the man had to kill them because they knew him from their clinic and could identify him. Otherwise, why the need to murder to steal a car?
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Because he is career criminal and has no conscious. If he wanted to go back to jail that bad, you'd think he could think of something not so violent. I hope he gets his wish and he never sees anything but prison bars the rest of his life. Pond scum!
 
  • #60
McFluffy said:
Jax, at least one of the articles said that the left their door open during certain times of the day, into the evening. as sort of a drop in place. That is probably where you got the idea of the open doors. tho i think the incident happened outside of these hours, thus locked doors.
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I checked back and I heard it on a local broadcast. It was a comment by the reporter. He said LE had told him there was no signs of a break in. Since we've seen several comments quoting LE as saying there were signs of a break in, I'm going to write it off as a misunderstanding on the part of the reporter.
 
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