MSM Coverage 11/2/11

[In da Middle]

It was discussed here on WS and someone even asked our resident local if there was a deli nearby...I've had no luck searching the threads here and since I didn't comment on it, that I remember, I can't look through my previous posts. Some OP may remember when and where it was brought up here on WS.

ETA:Here ya go...two references to it...
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - was Deb's brother there that night ?

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

The only thing I would consider being a deli around here is Subway and here are their hours according to their website

Subway Store #23881
4315 NE Chouteau Trafficway
Chouteau Crossings
Kansas City, MO 64117, USA
816-455-9559

Distance: 1.15 miles

Get Directions

Hours of Operation:

Sunday10:00am-9:00pm
Monday9:30am-9:00pm
Tuesday9:30am-9:00pm
Wednesday9:30am-9:00pm
Thursday9:30am-9:00pm
Friday9:30am-9:00pm
Saturday9:30am-9:00pm

 

[yllek]

Let me get this straight, SB is friends with TN on FB but not with her drinking buddy DB? huh?

TN? A brother of Debbi? Also could be called AN?

:crazy::crazy::crazy:

 

[Patty G]

Nothing as far as I know came out in MSM about SB saying she was outside talking to a neighbor until 11:30 PM. The articles that came out today, were different and where did this information come from in the first place except through "sources." We don't know what is really fact anymore unless we can hear it directly from SB, her hubby, LE etc. Heck we can't even believe the motorcycle dude anymore.

Did a strike-through as an article did come out about SB talking to a neighbor.

 

[beach]

It was discussed here on WS and someone even asked our resident local if there was a deli nearby...I've had no luck searching the threads here and since I didn't comment on it, that I remember, I can't look through my previous posts. Some OP may remember when and where it was brought up here on WS.

ETA:Here ya go...two references to it...
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - was Deb's brother there that night ?

ETA: Found the response to the original post about the deli:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

Perfect edit! Thank you!


I know it is a PITA to go diving for links but it is the only way we can keep on the right track w/o getting derailed.

Thanks JustK! :blowkiss:

 

[Mountain_Kat]

TN? A brother of Debbi? Also could be called AN?

:crazy::crazy::crazy:

That's a "yes". :crazy:

 

[EarlyT79]

Let me get this straight, SB is friends with TN on FB but not with her drinking buddy DB? huh?

:crazy: You had to do it. lol All this catching up and I finially figured--I'm getting this all sorted out in my mind and bam!

Now I have to go back to the starting thread and find out who SB, TN and FB are. :great:

 

[lauriej]

It doesn't say anything in the article that he was looking for Baby Lisa. I read the Facebook post, but is there an original article indicating he went looking for Baby Lisa thinking she was his granddaughter?

..the original article was from ferguson missouri---can't find it at the moment...........but there's this:


http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...ar-old-who-went-searching-for-baby-lisa-irwin

Police looking for 73-year-old who went searching for Baby Lisa Irwin

------snipped----

Ferguson, Mo. - Police are looking for Cleo Jones, 73, who believed he must search for missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin because he was confused, according to family.

KMOV reports that Jones was convinced Baby Lisa is his granddaughter, despite his daughter reassuring him that he is not the child's grandfather and has no relation to the missing Kansas City girl.

 

[Patty G]

It was discussed here on WS and someone even asked our resident local if there was a deli nearby...I've had no luck searching the threads here and since I didn't comment on it, that I remember, I can't look through my previous posts. Some OP may remember when and where it was brought up here on WS.

ETA:Here ya go...three references to it...
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - was Deb's brother there that night ?

ETA: Found the response to the original post about the deli:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - LIVE MSM COVERAGE on BABY LISA - 24 OCTOBER 2011

Apparently someone on FOX stated something, of which, I dismissed it!

 

[aks9847]

Just posted on KCTV5.com.

not sure if it warrants it's own story like others. I'd like to think so!


Source says 5 1/2-hour window for abduction of Baby Lisa
http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/baby-lisas-parents-say-5-12-hour-window-for-abduction

It's interesting how after JT announces they are ceasing all contact with media, these anonymous sources are just coming out of the woodwork!!

Way to go JT and BS! Keep it spinning. (Nice touch with the "She was on the floor and sobbing" comment.) Where have we heard that one before?? :waitasec:

 

[iamnotagolem]

The only thing I would consider being a deli around here is Subway and here are their hours according to their website

Subway Store #23881
4315 NE Chouteau Trafficway
Chouteau Crossings
Kansas City, MO 64117, USA
816-455-9559

Distance: 1.15 miles

Get Directions

Hours of Operation:

Sunday10:00am-9:00pm
Monday9:30am-9:00pm
Tuesday9:30am-9:00pm
Wednesday9:30am-9:00pm
Thursday9:30am-9:00pm
Friday9:30am-9:00pm
Saturday9:30am-9:00pm

But they go in and bake bread super early, my SIL used to go in at 5ish when she worked at Subway. Is there no deli in the target or grocery store?

 

[Emeralgem]

Could you possibly give me a link to that info? I haven't seen that one yet.

here is the link..

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/baby-lisas-parents-say-5-12-hour-window-for-abduction

ETA Sorry.. That may be the wrong link... I know someone posted the info about the neighbor staying oustide talking to another neighbor until 11:30

 

[AngelWings444]

I'm going crazy looking for the link for when the 4 y/o neighbor saw Lisa, does anyone have it? Does it mention if Lisa was alive?

http://www.kmbc.com/news/29651699/detail.html#ixzz1cUwfHYkR

 

[Patty G]

..the original article was from ferguson missouri---can't find it at the moment...........but there's this:


http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...ar-old-who-went-searching-for-baby-lisa-irwin

Police looking for 73-year-old who went searching for Baby Lisa Irwin

------snipped----

Ferguson, Mo. - Police are looking for Cleo Jones, 73, who believed he must search for missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin because he was confused, according to family.

KMOV reports that Jones was convinced Baby Lisa is his granddaughter, despite his daughter reassuring him that he is not the child's grandfather and has no relation to the missing Kansas City girl.

Thank you and now the story is complete for me. I will light a candle for this wonderful man who passed way too soon in life.

 

[EarlyT79]

Was there a confirmation of floating white blob? Who I assume is now floating bearded bride? Could that be the brother of DB?

 

[Just K]

Yep, SB is the neighbor/drinking buddy and she was named in the Kansas.com article this morning. She gave a newer timeline.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Samantha Brando says everything was fine until she went to bed at 11:30.

Says she and Debbie were outside until 10:30 p.m. so no intruder before that. Says she remained outside until 11:30 p.m. and again no intruder. She goes to bed. Baby gone by 3:45 a.m. so that becomes the 5 1/2 hour window.

So she is saying she saw the baby at 10:30? Because that is the only way she can say there was a baby in that bed.

The last time anyone claims to have seen that baby was 6:40 and Deb said that on tv.

11:30 to 3:45 is 4 hours and 15 minutes.

 

[madge]

link for article from MSM that says SB talked to another neighbor until 11:30

http://www.kctv5.com/story/15940122/baby-lisas-parents-say-5-12-hour-window-for-abduction

 

[yllek]

ALSO, SB says she talked to another NEIGHBOR outside until about 11:30 pm.

Does she say whether brother Phil was already there? If not, guess he came in sometime after 11:30 pm and assessed that Debbi had drunk enough to pass out.

We need to know who came in that house by invitation and when, dang it. Tell us if you saw Lisa alive and well SB. Tell us if anyone else was at the house SB. I don't think she wants to put herself that far on the line. JMO. I want to hear lots more from her...

 

[Patty G]

Normally a 4 year old can NOT tell time. So for MSM/source indicate that a 4 year old last saw Baby Lisa at 6:30 and she is safe seems odd to me!

 

[beach]

Nothing as far as I know came out in MSM about SB saying she was outside talking to a neighbor until 11:30 PM. The articles that came out today, were different and where did this information come from in the first place except through "sources." We don't know what is really fact anymore unless we can hear it directly from SB, her hubby, LE etc. Heck we can't even believe the motorcycle dude anymore.

And this is why we ask for links. I feel sure there is some grain of truth in some of these developments but who knows which ones right now....

I just hate to see us all get distracted and headed down a dead end road.

:banghead: ullhair: