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[michelle]

My heart goes out to the Ramsey and Paugh families. I have said all along that I do not wish cancer - particularly ovarian cancer - on anyone. Including Patsey Ramsey.
(My mother died of ovarian cancer a few years ago and it's a horrible, nasty and ugly death.)

I took care of a woman who had Ovarian cancer and it was the most Horrendous thing I ever since. I also took care of my grandmother with Lung cancer and that was bad!

 

[CountryGirl]

That should have been our first clue on how evasive Patsy was when she glided right over those three important pages.

You nailed it right on the head, CG - which makes seeing you again after all this time even sweeter! Hope all is well in your real world!

It is, thanks and I hope things are good for you as well.

Keep up the good fight.

 

[LinasK]

Posted on Sun, Jun. 25, 2006
Former beauty queen briefly was a suspect in her daughter's death; no arrests were ever made

By Robert Weller

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Patsy Ramsey, who was thrust into the national spotlight by the unsolved 1996 slaying of her daughter, 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant JonBenet, died Saturday following a long battle with ovarian cancer, her lawyer said. She was 49.

Ramsey was diagnosed with the disease in 1993 and suffered a recurrence several years ago, attorney Lin Wood said.

She died at her father's home in Roswell, Ga., a suburb of Atlanta, with her husband, John, at her bedside.

"It is not unexpected but it is a sad day," Wood said.

Patsy Ramsey is survived by her husband and their 19-year-old son, Burke.

She will be buried next to JonBenet in St. James Cemetery at Marietta, Ga., said Terry Pendley, owner of Mayes Ward-Dobbins Funeral Home in Marietta, Ga.

Services were scheduled for Thursday. more at link:http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/14899355.htm


Too bad you took your secrets to the grave with you!!!:furious:

 

[LinasK]

Hi rashomon

Why would Patsy/John stage a ransom note--then leave the body in their own home? They had lots of time...write the note...drive JB elsewhere to look like the abductors took her, then call the police... THAT makes no sense...

Because of the snow, they had no way to get her out of the house sight unseen, so their next best plan was to stage it to look like an intruder did it.

 

[Camper]

I adore, admire, and respect Mark Lunsford. But let's be fair in making comparisons.

First, it is not "years AFTER his baby was murdered." Jessica was murdered only 14 short MONTHS ago, an incredibly raw, short time in comparison to nearly a decade.

Second, personalities are different. Mark Lunsford is all raw emotion on his heartsleeve, the same way we saw with Ed Smart. (In the Smart family, you'll notice that Lois was the more "stoic" one, while Ed was sobbing all the time.)

Third, and this is important, Mark Lunsford and his father were thrown under the "umbrella of suspicion" for only a very, very brief time period, the same usual time period all family members are put there. I'm not going to get into a long dissertation on the "whys" of how it is the Ramseys have never quite been able to escape from the umbrella of suspicion, because I'm certain my take on it would be in some ways distinctly different from many on this forum. But suffice it say, JR and PR spent nearly a decade from nearly day 1 in defense mode, simultaneously trying to mourn their daughter while watching their images splayed out in tabloid headlines screaming everything from Burke-did-it to Patsy-did-it to John-did-it to whatever. We do not know how Mark Lunsford would act after a decade or even a year of that.

Last, I can back up the poster who said he/she saw interviews with Patsy sobbing over JBR. There's some selective memory going on here, and failing that, I'm sure there will be creative psychological interpretations.

--->>>In haste, I am busier than a one armed wallpaper hanger. I am headed for NYC and DC.

One major point, the R's went to CNN ( I forgot are they headquartered in Atlanta or NYC??)rather than have a heart to heart with the Boulder Police Department. Boulder was where the crime 'happened', Boulder is where PR said the killer was still 'hanging' and warned Boulder folk to keep their children close. She shoulda and coulda done that right in Boulder. WE have mighty TV stations right here in Colorado, and Boulder actually was receiving good TV signals in 1996. SO going on international CABLE TV did not lighten the R's load of being recognized on ANYSTREET, USA. Ala car chases with Ms. Stine her son, PR and Burke trying to outrun the 'media' in their fun little car chases. Hmmm.

See ya later. Like MacArthur I shall return.

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[concernedperson]

I read the sticky above so I won't mention any names. CNN is headquartered in Atlanta.Some of the obfuscation doesn't come from CNN but peripheral figures all Atlanta based. All with loyality to the Ramsey's. Remember I live here too.

 

[ellen13]

Because of the snow, they had no way to get her out of the house sight unseen, so their next best plan was to stage it to look like an intruder did it.

the only thing i always wondered if they could have left in the snow because it was light and said they were out looking for her or going to meet the guy with the ransom and then when they got to where they were supposed to go, they could have said her body was there if anyone questioned why they left the house or why the tire tracks. i think that would have looked better than a kidnapping gone bad with no chance of getting money. does this make sense? they really should have gotten her body out of the house. i think because she was in there makes it look worse.

 

[Paradox]

The reason no one was ever charged with her murder or cover-up is simply because they could not definitively identify just WHO did WHAT.


May Patsy's soul rest in the peace of God.

~Angel~

I think the reason Patsy wasn't charged rests with Alex Hunter and Lou Smit.

 

[LinasK]

But I think that many people will remember Patsy as someone who should have been charged in connection with the death of her daughter but who escaped earthly justice.

So true Rashomon, so true! People think it's speaking ill of the dead, but NOT when the dead had a hand in her murder!!!:clap:

 

[txsvicki]

To me, what is really sad is that a murderer of a cute little girl is free and forgiven by those who should be fighting for justice for her and other children. Patsy was lucky to have the money for such great medical care and that she lived as long as she did with cancer. If Patsy can forgive the monster who killed her child, then I'm sure she will forgive those who think that she knew more than she told and still want justice even after her death.

 

[LinasK]

And what if she was guilty??? I'd like to see John try to sue me for slander.

I think the reason Patsy wasn't charged rests with Alex Hunter and Lou Smit.

 

[Wudge]

I think the reason Patsy wasn't charged rests with Alex Hunter and Lou Smit.

Patsy was not charged, because evidence is needed to support an indictment. On that matter, dispositive evidence never existed, nor can it be adduced. Moreover, emotion-based or mob-based thought processes can't substitute for required evidence.

People who say otherwise, reason to their conclusion without the required reliable and valid facts. Simply put, they reason fallaciously.

These people should never sit in the jury box, for they demonstrate a significant gap or gaps in basic reasoning skills.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

This thread is ...either....or......

Please don't tell people what they can or cannot post.

Thank You.

Thank YOU Beebs!!!!

 

[wenchie]

As far as I'm concerned, Patsy killed her daughter (probably accidently) and got away with it because she had a high-priced legal team who were enabled by the DA's office.

My opinion is not based on emotion, but on stone-cold logic. Patsy didn't just leave clues - she left evidence: lots of it.

 

[Karole28]

People who say otherwise, reason to their conclusion without the required reliable and valid facts. Simply put, they reason fallaciously.

These people should never sit in the jury box, for they demonstrate a significant gap or gaps in basic reasoning skills.

ouch

 

[Nuisanceposter]

I think the reason Patsy wasn't charged rests with Alex Hunter and Lou Smit.

*nods* I add to that cocktail the Ramsey defense team.

The evidence, specifically the ransom note, points right at Patsy Ramsey imo. That's not any kind of mob or emotional thinking - that's me looking at the evidence the killer left and seeing that it leads to thinking JonBenet's mother killed her and covered it up, then got away with it by getting a stiff defense steam to buddy up with a corrupt DA.

But that's just my opinion.

 

[Garnan]

Burke didn't do it. The Ramsey's sent him right back to school when Christmas break was over. They would never have taken that risk. If he did it and they didn't know????, Well, he's a kid, he would have told somebody. Burke doesn't know anything.

Anybody else think it is ironic that PR died of ovarian cancer?

 

[Texana]

Patsy took some secrets to the grave with her, for sure.

I've always thought she would be the one to someday tell all. Wishful thinking.
I don't think there's any chance we will ever know the whole story now.

 

[BeeBee]

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Anybody else think it is ironic that PR died of ovarian cancer?

No. That's like saying someone who never went to school and was illiterate should die of brain cancer.

 

[englishleigh]

Burke didn't do it. The Ramsey's sent him right back to school when Christmas break was over. They would never have taken that risk. If he did it and they didn't know????, Well, he's a kid, he would have told somebody. Burke doesn't know anything.

Anybody else think it is ironic that PR died of ovarian cancer?

It might be, except that she had had ovarian cancer before JonBenet was ever murdered.