GUILTY MT - Beverly, 79, Gregory Giannonatti, 57, murdered, Deer Lodge, 24 Oct 2015

[ClaireNC]

Just had a thought, could the break-in at Greg's house be an attempt to find the gold bar? I am sure people were talking about it after it was found. I bet most of the town knew about it.

 

[ClaireNC]

(Snipped for focus) This case is super hinky.

Could the son have been trying to "get rid of mom" or maybe hired someone to just rob her of the gold bar and then something went wrong?? The gold bar was found in the dad's house. So maybe it was something that had not been disclosed in the will and he felt he was entitled to it.

Not trying to bash but just trying to make sense of this very weird case.
moo

I wonder who the gold bar actually belonged to. It was found in the father's house after the house was transferred to Gregory's name. So did that make Gregory the owner of the gold bar? Or was there something in the will that specified that certain assets went to Beverly? Remember, Beverly and Mr G. had been divorced since 1999, she might not have been entitled to anything after he died.

 

[CookieM]

I wonder who the gold bar actually belonged to. It was found in the father's house after the house was transferred to Gregory's name. So did that make Gregory the owner of the gold bar? Or was there something in the will that specified that certain assets went to Beverly? Remember, Beverly and Mr G. had been divorced since 1999, she might not have been entitled to anything after he died.

Exactly. So was she moving into the ex-husband's house at the insistence of her son, since he was the actual owner of the house?

I am also curious about who owned this mysterious gold bar. That's a key point. IMO.
The gold bar is missing though, isn't it?

Who the heck leaves a bar of gold around? Was it under the mattress and the maid was changing the sheets? Was it hidden in the cupboard or medicine chest and the cleaning lady happened upon it? I wonder if Beverly knew about the gold bar to begin with. If it had belonged to her ex-husband she may not have been aware of it before the cleaning lady found it.

moo

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Sorry I'm late to the party on this case.....just stumbled across it a few minutes ago. I would've tried and solved this back on page one if I'd known about it sooner. Everybody can relax now though......I'm here.

LOL, Steelman! You know I love it when you get all masterful!

:hero:

 

[steelman]

Howard said that Giannonatti’s former husband had passed away about a month and a half ago and had left to her a house at 86 Larkspur Road near Beck Hill. She had been having it remodeled and was living in town during the process with the intent of moving back into the house once the work was complete.

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

The gold bar may have been left behind accidentally while she was relocating to the other house there in town. She probably knew about it, but had forgotten about it until the maid mentioned it. She was 79 you know, people forget things.

 

[steelman]

LOL, Steelman! You know I love it when you get all masterful!

:hero:

So many cases to solve...........so little time.


Did the gold bar look like this ? --->

or did it look like this ? -------->


Here's some I've got sitting around the house-->

 

[spiritseeker31]

Another hint for the investigators. You know the maid, the one that found the gold bar and alerted
Beverly about it ? What does her family tree look like, and how many unsavory characters live in it ?
What kind of a history do her family members have ? People have families, and they like to tell stories while sitting around the firepit, especially really cool stories about finding gold bars in a strangers home.

I haven't read your entire post yet but I want to mention that something has been nagging at me for the past week about the maid and I'm not sure what it is. The word Maid won't stop popping into my head and I keep arguing with myself that she's got nothing to do with it. I'm nuts, I already know, no need to tell me lol.

 

[CookieM]

Howard said that Giannonatti’s former husband had passed away about a month and a half ago and had left to her a house at 86 Larkspur Road near Beck Hill. She had been having it remodeled and was living in town during the process with the intent of moving back into the house once the work was complete.

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

I believe this was her husband, not an ex-husband. The gold bar may have been left behind accidentally while she was relocating to the other house there in town. She probably knew about it, but had forgotten about it until the maid mentioned it. She was 79 you know, people forget things.

Okay, I am confused, I think....
She was married to William Giannonatti fron 1957 until 1999. They divorced, so that would make him the "former husband" from the above quote.

I swear I thought someone researched the property records and found that William G and Greg G (father and son) both owned the house in question, but after his death the ownership was fully transferred to Greg.
This same house is the one that Beverly was renovating, correct??
So this is where I obviously am not getting it: did the house on 86 Larkspur Road belong to Greg or was it left to her?

 

[Hoosgirl]

Just had a thought, could the break-in at Greg's house be an attempt to find the gold bar? I am sure people were talking about it after it was found. I bet most of the town knew about it.

I think the gold bar has a good possibility of being key to this case, as a result of some loose lips - either Beverly's or the maid - and word getting to someone unsavory. It's such a weird coincidence otherwise!

I struggle with the breakin. Such a strange assortment of things to take/disturb. If you are going to the trouble of taking the tv to the front yard, why then leave it? Seems staged to me.

 

[CookieM]

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

The gold bar may have been left behind accidentally while she was relocating to the other house there in town. She probably knew about it, but had forgotten about it until the maid mentioned it. She was 79 you know, people forget things.

Dang, I better get crackin' on the Sudoku! When I'm 79, I hope I remember that I have something like a $450k gold bar hanging around -- gotta keep that mind SHARP! hee hee!

:read:

 

[ClaireNC]

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

The gold bar may have been left behind accidentally while she was relocating to the other house there in town. She probably knew about it, but had forgotten about it until the maid mentioned it. She was 79 you know, people forget things.

I'm not sure what you are saying. Beverly and Mr G. divorced in 1999. She lived in town and he lived in the house outside of town where the gold bar was found. The house was built in 1976. It looks like the Giannonatti's bought it in 1991 and Mr. G became the owner when they divorced. The title to the house was transferred to Gregory's name on Oct 6, 2015. So Beverly did not inherit the house and might not have even been there in the last 16 years.

I think the idea of a 79 year old woman moving out of town to a larger house 10+ miles from anything, is just strange. I don't know many woman that age that would make that choice. It's a time when people generally downsize and move to someplace close to conveniences.

 

[steelman]

I'm not sure what you are saying. Beverly and Mr G. divorced in 1999. She lived in town and he lived in the house outside of town where the gold bar was found. The house was built in 1976. It looks like the Giannonatti's bought it in 1991 and Mr. G became the owner when they divorced. The title to the house was transferred to Gregory's name on Oct 6, 2015. So Beverly did not inherit the house and might not have even been there in the last 16 years.

I think the idea of a 79 year old woman moving out of town to a larger house 10+ miles from anything, is just strange. I don't know many woman that age that would make that choice. It's a time when people generally downsize and move to someplace close to conveniences.

I'm just going by what is highlighted in red per the article above. It sounds as if she lived there, moved out to have it remodeled, and was planning on moving back in once the remodeling was finished. That's what the article implies.

 

[ClaireNC]

I'm just going by what is highlighted in red per the article above. It sounds as if she lived there, moved out to have it remodeled, and was planning on moving back in once the remodeling was finished. That's what the article implies.

It was not reported like that in any of the other newspapers. That article is just wrong. It is from a very small local weekly newspaper. Almost too small to be considered MSM.

The way the people on the Help Find page talk, it is pretty clear that she lived in town.

 

[Ontario Mom]

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

The gold bar may have been left behind accidentally while she was relocating to the other house there in town. She probably knew about it, but had forgotten about it until the maid mentioned it. She was 79 you know, people forget things.

Beverly and her late ex-husband have been divorced for 16 years. Pretty sure she wasn't still living in the house on Larkspur (for that matter, I don't know if she ever lived there - or how long the late Mr. G owned it - maybe he bought it after they divorced?) (EDIT: see ClaireNC's post before mine - I posted before seeing hers)

Also, the late Mr. G passed in August, so I have no doubt most if not all of his personal things had already been taken care of (thrown away, donated, etc.) long before October 19th - most likely - by their son Gregory. I will assume it was Beverly paying for both the remodeling as well as the cleaning service, so she was the contact person for both (explains why the cleaning lady called her when she discovered the gold bar).

There is VERY little social media discussion on this, although there is some.

The Deer Lodge Police department has a FB page here https://www.facebook.com/deerlodgepolicedepartment/ and you can see who's commented & shared. Extremely low traffic there.
Then there's this page started by Beverly's friend https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/?fref=ts

But of all the MSM FB pages, there's almost no real discussion at all. Lots of well wishes and prayers being offered but that's pretty much it.

 

[Fairy1]

Another hint for the investigators. You know the maid, the one that found the gold bar and alerted
Beverly about it ? What does her family tree look like, and how many unsavory characters live in it ?
What kind of a history do her family members have ? People have families, and they like to tell stories while sitting around the firepit, especially really cool stories about finding gold bars in a strangers home.

The way I see it, the goldbar came to light on October 19th. She was last seen eating lunch with a stranger on October 28th. That's 9 days between events. That's plenty of time for somebody to hear about the gold, gather information about the property and the owner, plan an abduction, and carry it out.

This 60 year old mystery man has to be tracked down. What are the chances she would be eating lunch with a person that nobody recognizes in a little town that size ?

What are the chances this mystery man is simply an innocent local that hasn't come forward yet ?----> Zilch, Zero.

Imagine a scenario where the maid tells some of her family members about finding this gold. These family members don't live there locally, but they live closeby........say.....25 miles to the south. After finding out this old lady is leaving gold bars lying around the house and carrying it around town like a bar of soap, the lure of an easy score is too much for these unscrupulous family members.

A plan is hatched where one of the older individuals will set up a meeting and approach her about doing some work on the late husbands house, or maybe it was a sham offer to buy said house. Either way, there was a plan developed. Without knowing all the details, I think the plan unfolded to where they put the squeeze on Beverly to tell them where the gold was. Either she wouldn't or she couldn't, so then they drag her son into it. He gets a phone call at 10 p.m. that night explaining what the demands are, and screeches away from the house, forgetting all about the roast in the crockpot, the dogs, and everything else. He goes to where he's told to go, which is his Fathers house. This would be the meet and greet spot to discuss the gold bar and the transfer of ownership of such.

What happens from that point on is left to the imagination. They were taken somewhere to get the gold, they told where the gold was and were killed, or maybe a combination of the two. Either way, neither one of them is coming back home, because there's no way the perps could just let them go seeing how Beverly at least had an idea who the older man was.

By the way, this exact same scenario could have been played out through someone on the remodel crew who simply heard rumors and stories about this gold bar. They need to lean on this maid very heavily and find out who she told about the gold as well as who might have been asking her a bunch of questions about it after the fact.

This is exactly what I'm thinking. Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing it all out!

 

[steelman]

The Sheriff said that when authorities entered the house they found that the dogs had been left in the residence for about three to four days, based upon the natural functions of the dogs. He also noted that the dogs had been separated as though Beverly Giannonatti had made a controlled leave.
But leaving the dogs without care is something Howard said Giannonatti would not normally do.
“Very uncommon for Beverly to do that. Her dogs were very important to her,” he said.
Although it appeared Giannonatti had been sorting through stuff at the residence, there were no signs that items had been rummaged through or that there were any signs of struggle. Assets belonging to her were also left at the residence, some in plain sight. While an empty purse was at the residence, it appeared Giannonatti had moved the items from that bag into another purse. Both it and her new cell phone were not at the residence.
However, what did remain at the residence were all of Giannonatti’s vehicles. Howard said that the woman was very particular about driving herself and it would be very uncommon for her to have left her residence in someone else’s vehicle.

Howard said that Giannonatti’s former husband had passed away about a month and a half ago and had left to her a house at 86 Larkspur Road near Beck Hill. She had been having it remodeled and was living in town during the process with the intent of moving back into the house once the work was complete.
Officers went to the residence where they located the white Toyota belonging to Gregory Giannonatti. Howard said it did not appear that the vehicle had stopped there in a rush, nor did it appear there had been a passenger in the vehicle recently.

Unable to gain access inside the residence, given the situation and circumstances, the Sheriff called a locksmith and after unsuccessful attempts at picking the lock, made forced entry into the house.
Inside, they found no evidence of either Beverly or Gregory Giannonatti. There was no sign of struggle found either.

https://www.facebook.com/BevandGregGianonatti/posts/1057146771011492

Note to self: Don't ever call that locksmith.

 

[CeiliMom]

I've been reading along, but a couple thoughts have me finally posting.

I could see Beverly moving out to the bigger home if it was easier to renovate into handicap accessible. It hasn't been said, but I was also thinking that Gregory would also move out there eventually.

They phones pinged near Anaconda. I'm wondering if there are cameras in that town that could have caught a late night car ride through town (assuming whoever they were with or had a hand in their disappearance went through town). I'm guessing that there wouldn't be too much traffic after 10pm on a weeknight. I'm basing that on the fact that my parents live in the same size town in Northern California and the town rolls up the sidewalks by 630pm.

 

[ClaireNC]

Welcome to the discussion CeiliMom! Good thought on making the house handicap accessible, but I don't think that's the situation. It looks like the late husband's house would be harder to make accessible than where she is living now. It is two-story with bedrooms on the 2nd floor and has a basement, the property is hilly and uneven. The driveway looks like it would be a pain in the butt in the winter with all the snow. The house she lives in now is one story, and the property is flat and close to the road. The house in town would be much better for a handicapped person.

 

[charminglane]

Maybe she is renovating it because eventually it will go to her son and he will live there?

 

[trigger]

I really think this case will be solved especially with the FBI involved. Also when they try to sell the gold bar they will be arrested.

Hopefully they took prints from the TV that was placed outside.

Praying for Mom and her son