GUILTY MT - Cody Johnson, 25, pushed off cliff, Glacier Nat'l Park, 7 July 2013

[MaybeNotToday]

I'm afraid I'm going to disagree with you about the "pretty" part. To me, she was lucky someone was willing to marry her. I'll leave it at that.....

She wasn't as pretty as Casey Anthony or Arias. But maybe she thought she was. Who knows. From her texts to her friends, I sense resentment towards him. How can you resent someone you're about to marry? Just don't marry him!

 

[MaybeNotToday]

The "blindfold" idea first came from her. Here is what she said.

"I didn’t want to do that trail because I was afraid that, I mean there is a cliff right there," Graham told detectives, HLN reported. "And you could fall. And he said, ‘I could do this with a blindfold on.’ And he said, ‘I could just put it on, take a step but I wouldn’t even fall.’ And I was like - and it just kept going through my head that, um, you are going to fall or something.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...f-prosecutors-article-1.1513652#ixzz2kTgEHIIt

Damn. I thought "I could do this blindfolded" was just a saying! I will reserve my opinion on a person that would actually do that.
Regardless, if he accidentally fell to his death, why was she not hysterical??

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

MaybeNotToday:

Your post brought up a good point: those women with personality disorders such as BPD should remember that it is much kinder, safer and wiser to just walk away. Count to ten and all that good stuff. Freeze and let an ice cube melt in your hands before you take action, and what not.

Perhaps the 3 of them mentioned suffer from the same psychological malady?
Hmmmm????

 

[MaybeNotToday]

MaybeNotToday:

Your post brought up a good point: those women with personality disorders such as BPD should remember that it is much kinder, safer and wiser to just walk away. Count to ten and all that good stuff. Freeze and let an ice cube melt in your hands before you take action, and what not.

Perhaps the 3 of them mentioned suffer from the same psychological malady?
Hmmmm????

That's likely possible. A lot of mental illness does not manifest itself fully until early 20's. Maybe she never displayed anything other than quirky before. A lot of men are attracted to those types as they are usually challenging and exciting. But those characteristics don't translate well into marriage and family. She obviously had second thoughts about marriage. Family and friends should have helped. She acted as if there was pressure to marry- and I don't know why.

 

[ShadyLady]

Hope this one is televised.

 

[Hope4More]

She's facing charges of 1st degree murder and is complaining that the FBI interrogator sat too close to her and touched her knee? Okey Dokey.

She clearly has major problems, and its beyond reprehensible that she left her dead husband's body in the wild for days, causing his friends and family unimaginable grief and fear.

I also bet that it was she who boasted about being able to walk the path blindfolded, not him, and it wouldn't surprise me if she taunted him about being afraid to be up there at all, much less near the cliff's edge.
And, she admits to pushing him, though exactly how or why seems to be in dispute.

IMO there isn't enough evidence that has been made public to believe it was premeditated murder. Reckless indifference for sure, at least, but not necessarily murder.

 

[Tawny]

I know I'm not the only one with a slight case of deja vu?

 

[summer_breeze]

http://helenair.com/news/local/crim...cle_f21e7084-4e8a-11e3-83f8-0019bb2963f4.html

11 minutes ago • By ALICE MILLER
Missoulian

<snipped>

Appearing nervous, Jordan Linn Graham, 22, testified during a hearing on a defense motion to dismiss the federal indictment against her — or, at least, to strike the first-degree murder charge filed following the death of 25-year-old Cody Lee Johnson last July 7.

U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy, though, denied the motion, finding no prosecutorial misconduct.

 

[LinasK]

Associated Press – 22 hrs ago
MISSOULA, Mont. (AP) — A Montana woman charged with shoving her new husband off a cliff to his death testified Friday that she instinctively pushed him away when he grabbed her arm during an argument in Glacier National Park.
<snip>Graham and Johnson had been married for eight days when they argued over her doubts about the marriage, prosecutors said. The couple took the argument to Glacier National Park, where Johnson at one point grabbed Graham, and Graham removed his arm and pushed him in the back and off a steep cliff, according to the criminal complaint.Graham has pleaded not guilty, and said she was only attempting to remove Johnson's arm — not push him.
more at link: http://news.yahoo.com/montana-bride-says-fatal-push-instinct-191824640.html

 

[fran]

Trial date is set for Dec 9th, but I'm pretty sure it'll be delayed because of the dna evidence not being in. One article said the pros wanted a delay to wait for the dna evidence to come back and another article said the def is requesting a delay because they need time to answer the new allegation of the blindfold.

I guess time will tell.

JMHO
fran


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/jordan-linn-graham-blindfold_n_4259596.html

Jordan Linn Graham Blindfolded Husband Before Shoving Him Off Cliff, Prosecutors Say

The blindfold theory flies in the face of Graham's claim that her husband's death was an accident. As a result, Graham and her attorneys want her scheduled December trial postponed, claiming that they are unprepared to offer a proper defense. Graham previously pleaded not guilty to murder charges.

 

[Justiceforever]

From the text I saw she sent to her friend, it sounds premeditated. She told her that if she didn't get back to her that night, something happened. Sounds to me like she planned it!!!

Granted I haven't read thru the entire thread yet but couldn't that also be taken as if she were afraid for her life?

 

[LinasK]

Granted I haven't read thru the entire thread yet but couldn't that also be taken as if she were afraid for her life?

Yeah, except that there's zero evidence- except for the perp's story- that he was anything like that, and we all know how honest perp's can be...

 

[Justiceforever]

This image, far left second one down, definitely shows the trail running alongside a cliff. If this, or similar, is where he went over, it's quite possible he was pushed as she claims. Whatever the case, I imagine she lured him there for that purpose, imo. Otherwise, she would have been distraught and frantically seeking help, reported it immediately, etc.

I truthfully don't get why just second degree murder charges, why not first degree? Because of the "story" she finally came up with ? I hope this girl goes to jail for a long, long time.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...ge&fr=crmas&sz=all&va=loop+trail+glacier+park

SMH Sadly, this tragedy hasn't marred the beauty of the landscape a bit. You would think it would. How can such a thing happen in such a beautiful place? When I am in nature, I feel close to God. It's relaxing and calming and I would be too awe inspired to even argue, let alone push my man of the cliff!

Was she or he or both known for being volatile?

 

[Justiceforever]

I'll bet she did blindfold him, saying "trust me". She had a song lyric written for their wedding with the words, "You're my safe place to fall". I think she probably set him up before they ever got married. His best friend was suspicious of her prior to the wedding!!
I'm not so sure there was an argument, this is all her story.

Now that IS bizarre given how he died!

 

[Justiceforever]

So if you kill someone in a national park that means she will go to a federal prison. Bet she didn't think of that. Jmo

Ciao

Federal prison (I've heard from people who have been there) is a vacation for criminals.

Here's a quote and a link to an article that confirms what I have heard.

"State penitentiaries, with inmate-on-inmate assaults nearly twice as likely as in federal prisons, are a far cry from the comparatively cushy accommodations in federal prisons,..."

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/companies/2004-03-18-statetime_x.htm

 

[Justiceforever]

From this article, this is what creeps me out!:
'I used words like "you helped me to climb higher for a better view, you're my safe place to fall, you never let me go,"' songwriter Elizabeth Shea told CNN.

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Wow! it's either prophetic or premeditated!

 

[josie1986]

his she still out on bail? how,just how did she wrangle that one?

 

[Hope4More]

Granted I haven't read thru the entire thread yet but couldn't that also be taken as if she were afraid for her life?

I don't believe she was afraid of him at all, much less afraid for her life. He was blindly in love with her, and after only 8 days of marriage, hadn't time to see her clearly.

But, I think its equally absurd to use this call as evidence of premeditation. This is a very young woman we're talking about here...barely more than a girl, and someone who isn't OK emotionally. Who knows what she meant to say that day? That something bad was going to happen? Well, yes. In whatever way she understood it, she had to know her young husband of 8 days was going to be very unhappy to hear that his bride had second thoughts.

 

[PandaJ]

Prosecutors: Kalispell bride threatened to kill parents

Link: http://billingsgazette.com/news/sta...cle_8bf9fc0d-bb10-5a55-875f-4cc4a8c9f271.html

From the link: "A Kalispell newlywed accused of pushing her husband to his death in Glacier National Park made comments a month prior to their wedding that she could kill her parents, according to court documents."

 

[LietKynes]

abcnews.go.com/US/prosecutors-montana-bride-spoke-killing-parents-weeks-husband/story?id=21030013

Oh, so she could kill her mom and stepdad as well ?? I don't know the entire story about what happened ; but imo, this young lady has got some real problems !!!!!!

Also moo that I think she should not be released into society for a long, long time.