Identified! MT - Marion, WhtMale 18-49, UP13963, MJ Pipe, Pistol, Poker Game, Oct'03 - Steven Edward Gooch

It would be great if people who have the family names as Cliff Doe took a genealogical test and opted in on GEDmatch.
Based on his matches, the DNA Doe Project believes that he could have connections to these surnames and locations.

➡️ Saylor, Helton, Brock, or Blanton from Harlan County, Kentucky
➡️ Ward, Linn, or Barrett from Montgomery County, Indiana
➡️ Greene, Epperson, Seales, or Trent from Hancock County, Tennessee"
As I posted before, my Hubby is related to the M
elungeon community. His maternal grandmother has done a huge amount of research on their genealogy. Last night, he actually had time to upload his DNA and GEDcom to GEDmatch and DNAsolves! He and I are hopeful, this will help, even if he's not directly related to this gentleman! The Melungeon line is small, but very convoluted.
 
Very good article, lots of detail. Thanks for posting!

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Facial reconstruction of Cliff Doe, an unidentified man whose remains were found outside of Marion in 2003. - Courtesy Image; RIGHT: Photos of items that were found with human remains discovered near Marion in October 20

''Everything he had with him the day he died fits inside a single cardboard box. Most of his possessions — a knife, sunglasses, a bottle of Aleve, a pipe, and a book — are shoved in brown paper bags from Rosauers that have been folded up inside the box for 17 years. Shelley Giebeig, a coroner and detective’s secretary with the Flathead County Sheriff’s Office, removes each bag and spreads out the contents on a conference room table, careful to not rip the disintegrating paperback pages or to fray the blue fanny pack that contained it.''


''Presently, the closest genetic match Jones and her fellow volunteers have found for Cliff is someone approximately 70 centimorgans away. For laypeople, a centimorgan is a unit for measuring genetic linkage; the more centimorgans, the more likely someone is a direct relative. For example, there are 3,600 centimorgans between a child and a parent. Seventy centimorgans means there’s a 33 percent chance that the two people could be half third cousins. So far, Jones has been able to determine that Cliff was somehow related to a husband and wife born in Kentucky in the early 19th century. The man, born in about 1822, and the woman, born around 1817, had at least 10 children together and many more grandchildren and great grandchildren. Jones is working to identify the family lineage that connects Cliff with the Kentucky couple, but she admits it will likely take time, with many dead ends. Creating family trees can also be complicated by the fact that some offspring may not be documented, like those born out of wedlock.''

that last paragraph is fascinating! Wow!
 
I think this article is new as it contains a few new details. For example, about the gun and the cross which suddenly appeared on the place where this John Doe was found, also I do not remember reading anything about the book and the pills which were found near the body. The book is Phases of Gravity by Dan Simmons

Marion Flathead County John Doe
Marion Flathead County John Doe
Police are close to identifying him, but they need the public’s help.

Josie Klakström
Jan 6 · 6 min read

On the 26th of October 2003, two hunters were walking at the top of a cliff in Marion, Flathead County, Montana. They were close to a wooded area when they came upon a black nylon ‘Uncle Mike’s Sidekick’ bag, looking rather worse for wear. It wasn’t a regular hunting bag, which they would expect to see and they didn’t notice anyone in the area that the bag could belong to.

They took a closer look inside and found a fanny pack and a .22 calibre Smith & Wesson 433 pistol. Close to the bag was a coin and a butterfly knife.

The discovery of the bag didn’t concern the hunters and they continued on their way. When they arrived home, one of them told his wife about the find and she suggested that he go back out and check the bottom of the cliff. The hunter went back to the woods to search the area more thoroughly and made a horrible discovery.

At the bottom of the cliff was a skull, alongside a water bottle and an Adidas tennis shoe. Nearby was a rat’s nest and inside he found a marijuana pipe, a pair of sunglasses, a few more coins and other small items.

The location of the remains was impossible to get to without a key to the many gates along the road. The Sheriff had to call in a wildlife officer to get him to open the locks for him, which gave them their first clue; the deceased would have been on foot, rather than in a vehicle.

Detectives and crime scene specialists arrived quickly, and the skull and artefacts were collected. They were sent off for processing, to try and find the identity of the person, while officers searched the surrounding area for clues.

There was little evidence at the crime scene and detectives knew early on that the skull had been there a long time. Because the additional bones found were scattered around the area, they didn’t know where the original crime scene was situated. Using the skull as a point of reference, they worked outwards, looking for more bones or belongings from the bag.

Most of the bones were near the skull but there was one found near the top of the cliff where the nylon bad was discovered. This indicated that the person likely died on higher ground and fell down the cliff.

Further coins were found as was an electronic handheld poker game and a bottle of Aleve pain pills. The newest coin dated back to 1990, which gave detectives a window of 13 years, in which the person could have died.

A year later, another search of the area found pages from a book, Phases of Gravityby Dan Simmons. The book was published in 1989, 1990 and again in 2001. It didn’t help narrow the timeline any further, but it gave investigators another clue as to who this person was.

The remains
The bones were examined by the anthropology department from the University of Montana. They also studied the crime scene and found additional bones on their visit.

In November, the team determined that the bones had been in the woods for around eight years, before their discovery.

They belonged to a white male, who was around 5’7” in height and wore a size 11 shoe. He was between 18 and 42 but was more likely to be in his mid-twenties. He also had fillings in his teeth.

Marion Flathead County John Doe via dnadoeproject.org
Because of his dental work, investigators believed they’d crack the case with dental records, but each time they thought they’d found him, the dental work wasn’t quite right.

The artefacts
To help close the timeline further, an investigator called Aleve to see if he could gain any information from the discarded bottle. He gave them the serial number and they were able to tell him that the particular bottle type was sold from June 1994.

They also told him that Bayer took over the manufacturing from Procter & Gamble in January 1997, and after the takeover, the bottle shape had changed. The one found near the remains was from the Procter & Gamble era, which gave detectives a window of two and a half years, between June 1994 and January 1997.

Soon after this information was unearthed, a forensic technician went down a similar rabbit hole with the Adidas shoe. Giving Adidas a description of the shoe and serial numbers, they were able to find out that the shoe had been made in May 1995.

The gun
The .22 calibre Smith & Wesson 433 pistol found at the scene was second hand and still had its serial number. Detectives quickly acquired the history of the gun; where it was made and who had bought it, and they tracked it to a man in Utah, who purchased it in January 1994.

The man who bought the gun was still alive, so he wasn’t the man found in the woods, but he told police that he’d sold the weapon and many others between March and June in 1994.

He couldn’t remember who he’d sold that particular gun to, but he likely took it to one of two gun shops nearby. It doesn’t appear that this was verified in the original investigation.

The case went cold but was reopened around 2011, but without a dedicated cold case team, the investigation was slow.

The new detective in charge of the case, visited the woods to familiarise himself with the crime scene. When he arrived, he saw that someone had placed a white cross at the top of the cliff. Despite the police’s efforts, the owner of the cross was never identified.

He also found another rat’s nest, which had more human bones inside it, that likely belonged to John Doe.

The detective looked into the original gun man’s story and spoke to the gun stores he believed he sold the weapon to. However, neither store had a record of the gun in question, meaning they never bought it.

The detective reinterviewed the gun owner, who told him that he may have pawned the gun instead, as he was going through a divorce and needed money. The man gave police the pawnshop’s name, but they also didn’t have any record of buying the gun.

The man was cleared in the original investigation because the gun stores weren’t contacted, but when questioned by Crime Junkie, the detective said, “with any investigation, it must remain fluid, should any new evidence arise.”

Where you can help
The Flathead County Sheriff’s Office teamed with the DNA Doe Project to help identify their John Doe. Until they had an identity for the man, they couldn’t start investigating how he may have died.

By using genealogy, they were able to add the John Doe’s DNA to the usual ancestry databases, and they managed to get matches to a fourth cousin level.

Based on John Doe’s DNA, the DNA Doe Project believes he’s from three potential counties and eleven family names. He could be related to people in the below counties.

Montgomery County, Indiana
Surnames: Ward, Linn, Barrett.

Hancock County, Tennessee
Surnames: Greene, Epperson, Seales, Trent.

Harlan County, Kentucky
Surnames: Saylor, Helton, Brock, Blanton.

He was likely out of state when he died but DNA Doe Project believes he may have been from one of these families, in one of these states.

For more information on the case, visit the DNA Doe Project. Let’s try and give this man a name
 
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Now I see that the book had been mentioned before.
What puzzles me is the fact that the gun was inside the bag and not somehwere near the body. Also, as I said I do not remember reading about Aleve pain pills before, but thinking about the painkillers I feel Larry Franklin Trent mentioned in the prior posts is a very strong candidate.
 
I know the circumstances of his disappearance are quite different, but I still wonder if David Partlow was ruled out?
"Partlow was last seen in Flathead County, Montana on the afternoon of May 8, 1987. He went hang gliding with three friends on Blaine Mountain, northeast of Kalispell. His friends glided south, but heavy winds pushed Partlow off-course and north. His glider was not designed for extreme conditions and he got sucked up, out of sight, and vanished.

Several weeks later, a pilot found Partlow's hang glider in a clearing on the east side of Columbia Mountain, about seven miles north of where he'd taken off. The glider appeared to have had a rough landing but it was mostly intact, and there was no sign of Partlow or any indications that he had been injured. His parachute had been deployed and was lying flat across the ground, and his helmet and his rucksack, which contained some survival supplies, was also at the landing site".

David Scott Partlow – The Charley Project
 
Just looking through Namus for missing people with the same theorized names.

Craig Michael Ward - 38 yrs. Missing from Saint Paul, MN. Missing since 11/23/02.
Larry G. Ward - 39 yrs. Missing from Eudora, AK. Missing since 07/30/98.
Brian Lee Barrett - 19 yrs. Missing from Milaca, MN. Missing since 06/06/95.

There really weren't very many. Plus I'm not too familiar with this case but I don't think they've been ruled out. None of them have much info available.
 
Hancock County, Tennessee
Surnames: Greene, Epperson, Seales, Trent.


Well, well, well, the Laughing clan includes the Seal and Trent surnames from Hancock County, Tennessee!

Not missing anyone, as far as I know.

These people could be Melungeon, with some rather rare genetic material. But, this wasn't mentioned, so likely not?

(The Seal ancestor arrived in chains on a British prison ship. There was a little girl in the 1800's named Easter Seal.)

@LotsaLatte , anything to add about the lines upthread in #63???

jmho ymmv lrr
 
Using Google Maps:

Google Maps

No idea how that link will post, mapping Hancock County & tangent Harlan County to Crawfordsville, Indiana. Harlan & Hancock Counties are separated by a surveyed state line, and in the eastern edge of the counties by a sliver of Virginia.

brought to mind Hillbilly Elegy, a great film.

jmho ymmv lrr
 
Hancock County, Tennessee
Surnames: Greene, Epperson, Seales, Trent.


Well, well, well, the Laughing clan includes the Seal and Trent surnames from Hancock County, Tennessee!

Not missing anyone, as far as I know.

These people could be Melungeon, with some rather rare genetic material. But, this wasn't mentioned, so likely not?

(The Seal ancestor arrived in chains on a British prison ship. There was a little girl in the 1800's named Easter Seal.)

@LotsaLatte , anything to add about the lines upthread in #63???

jmho ymmv lrr

Hi @Laughing !!
Oh gosh, I haven’t been around much lately but I will go read this and take a look! Might be a day or two.
 
Using Google Maps:

Google Maps

No idea how that link will post, mapping Hancock County & tangent Harlan County to Crawfordsville, Indiana. Harlan & Hancock Counties are separated by a surveyed state line, and in the eastern edge of the counties by a sliver of Virginia.

brought to mind Hillbilly Elegy, a great film.

jmho ymmv lrr
Looking forward to watching this one!
Watch Hillbilly Elegy | Netflix Official Site
 
Great film, great reminder that cultures that are unfamiliar to you are different and that there are cultures unfamiliar to each of us....

and thanks lots, @LotsaLatte!

jmho ymmv lrr

oh boy! I went back and read the posts. The couple they traced the DNA to is back a bit. Without looking at the DNA info/matches and any specific names, I wouldn’t be able to do much. I am, however, kind of surprised that there are no closer matches at this point. It will be exciting if any closer matches pop up! I feel confident that this will be solved if closer matches show up unless adoption and/or unknown parent(s) play a part in his genealogy.
 
Identified.

Officials worked with the nonprofit DNA Doe Project and Flathead County Sheriff's Office to identify the man as Steven Edward Gooch.

Gooch, who was 29 at the time, left the area of Bothell, Washington, in 1995. His family had not heard from him since. They reported him missing in 1996.

Remains found in 2003 linked to man missing since 1995
 
Human remains from 2003 Flathead County 'cold case' identified (kpax.com)
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Photo by: photo provided to Flathead County Sheriff’s Office by family
A photo of Steven Gooch from June of 1991.

'When Steven Gooch’s family last heard from him in 1995, he was 29 years old. According to his family, he was in San Diego and was possibly headed to Las Vegas. The family reported him missing in 1996 after not hearing from him again.''

"We would like to acknowledge and thank the volunteers at the DNA Doe Project for the countless hours they worked to make this identification,” Sheriff Heino concluded.

Anyone with information that could be helpful to the investigation is asked to contact the Flathead County Sheriff’s Office at 406-758-5600 or email [email protected]''
 

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