Found Deceased MT - Rita Maze, 47, Wolf Creek, 6 Sept 2016 #1

[bluesneakers]

I had to go to the shops but I couldn't stop thinking about Rita! whatever happened, it's horrific.

Could she have met with a psychopath who really did just want a ride and and didn't care for any money, or to take the vehicle and killed her just.. cos he's a psycho. Was it an elaborate staged plan? Maybe was she delusional? Had some type of break?

Did LE get a warrant for her home and computer or was that someone's assumption?

Same here. I keep going back to the incident in Helena last year and wondering how long she's been dwelling on this and planning it. I know carjackings happen everywhere but her story is so similar and it happened right there. It makes sense to me that's where she got the idea. We'll never know but my gut or hinky meter is telling me it's more than a coincidence.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

To me it is because the Medical Examiner has not given the manner of death (ie homicide, suicide), only that there was "an incident"; Spokane County Sheriff, who is doing the forensics, advices media to "question the narrative" put forth by the victims family and Montana police, and statement from FBI that there is no POI and no statement that they are looking for a suspect at all.

I really didn't take it that way. When that was said they emphasized that there was NO known POI. If they have footage it may not show his face well enough. They could have a POI but who he happens to be is unknown to them at this time.

I have seen other MEs in other cases not come out with the manner of death until he/she can finalize the full autopsy report and that takes around 8 weeks irrc because to complete it they have to get the lab results back from the toxicology department even if drugs had nothing to do with the death.

I remember when Lana was killed by Phil Spector it took the ME over 7 months to determine the manner of death.

 

[leighmarker]

Does anyone know why or how her back window was broken? Did LE do it?

 

[skibaboo]

Does anyone know why or how her back window was broken? Did LE do it?

We don't know but LE said it was like that when they got there

ETA: I stand Corrected. LE broke the window

 

[Gardener1850]

I really didn't take it that way. When that was said they emphasized that there was NO known POI. If they have footage it may not show his face well enough. They could have a POI but who he happens to be is unknown to them at this time.

I have seen other MEs in other cases not come out with the manner of death until he/she can finalize the full autopsy report and that takes around 8 weeks irrc because to complete it they have to get the lab results back from the toxicology department even if drugs had nothing to do with the death.

I remember when Lana was killed by Phil Spector it took the ME over 7 months to determine the manner of death.

Other reports said the located the POI seen on video and cleared him as not being connected to this case. I saw a video of a reporter who said that person turned out to be "just another customer". It is puzzling. If Rita was still driving, perhaps she stayed in her car and asked a nearby customer to pump her gas? But this would be easily seen on video so I don't know why they would jump to that person being a POI. Nothing makes sense. I do hope they release images from the gas stations and ATM's soon if this was really some elaborate hoax.

 

[Tillicum]

In the video it is said that the FBI is no longer trying to find any additional POI. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-montana-woman-called-trunk-article-1.2784474

ETA Disregard, I misunderstood.

 

[Tillicum]

We don't know but LE said it was like that when they got there

That was yesterday, now they are saying they broke a window to get in the locked car. It's no wonder everyone is confused with the information changing on an hourly basis IMO.

 

[Gardener1850]

In the video it is said that the FBI is no longer trying to find any additional POI. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...-montana-woman-called-trunk-article-1.2784474

Actually, the exact quote from the video is the FBI is "no longer seeking their initial person of interest". This is much different from no longer seeking ANY ADDITIONAL POI.

 

[DatelineFan]

Still catching up, but I just want to point out that suicide is very complex. I really don't think anyone attempts suicide for one particular reason, like a sick family member. Depression, IMO, is more complicated than that.

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[skibaboo]

That was yesterday, now they are saying they broke a window to get in the locked car. It's no wonder everyone is confused with the information changing on an hourly basis IMO.

They did? Oh, I must have missed that, thank you!!

 

[keeponsearching]

This is crazy strange. I don't know what to think. If Rita did kill herself, did she shoot herself outside the car, there is blood on the ground? How did the two shell casings end up in the trunk?

 

[Tillicum]

Actually, the exact quote from the video is the FBI is "no longer seeking their initial person of interest". This is much different from no longer seeking ANY ADDITIONAL POI.

Sorry. You're correct, I just listened again.

 

[bluesneakers]

That was yesterday, now they are saying they broke a window to get in the locked car. It's no wonder everyone is confused with the information changing on an hourly basis IMO.

I know. There has been so much confusion it gets to a point where the only thing you can trust are direct, full quotes from law enforcement but even they change or get updated along the way.

How, why, and when the window got broken I can't figure out.

 

[keeponsearching]

I wonder how nearby the blood and money were..
"There was blood on the ground and a $20 bill nearby."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rita-ma...-claims-of-montana-woman-found-dead-in-trunk/

 

[Gardener1850]

Sorry. You're correct, I just listened again.

I had to listen twice myself because they spoke so fast and I just realized those 2 phrases rhyme. So don't worry about it. I would like to have heard the actual quote from an FBI spokesperson but we are getting very little info.

 

[Gardener1850]

They did? Oh, I must have missed that, thank you!!

I missed LE saying this too.
I saw it on Nancy Grace that they found the window busted but that doesn't mean she is correct. Anyone have a link to LE saying they had to bust the window? (just yesterday we were discussed whether a bullet could have shattered it). IDK. :scared:

 

[Tillicum]

They did? Oh, I must have missed that, thank you!!

A license plate reader on the Idaho border spotted Maze's car heading into Washington Tuesday afternoon. They used technology to track her phone and found her car in a trucking company's parking lot. Deputies saw Maze's purse on the passenger seat and the keys in the ignition. They broke the window, opened the trunk and found Maze dead inside.

http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-ne...interest-in-montana-kidnappingmurder/41582882

 

[Carver]

This is crazy strange. I don't know what to think. If Rita did kill herself, did she shoot herself outside the car, there is blood on the ground? How did the two shell casings end up in the trunk?

Trunks are not airtight. Blood, like water, will find cracks and seap/leak through. A gunshot wound at point blank into the midsection would leave considerable amount of blood that has to go somewhere.

I am still stuck at a glaring lack of commentary by LE and ME about any apparent head wound/head trauma. Sometimes it's the absence/silence of things that speak the loudest...

 

[JohnPaul]

There was blood on the ground, and her purse, containing $50, was on the passenger side floorboard in the locked car. The keys were in the ignition, and an iPad was found on the rear floorboard.

this all further indicates a suicide to me,

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Still catching up, but I just want to point out that suicide is very complex. I really don't think anyone attempts suicide for one particular reason, like a sick family member. Depression, IMO, is more complicated than that.

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I do agree with that. When my husband's 24 year old nephew committed suicide with a shotgun it was one of the best times of his life or so we thought. He had just been promoted at work. He was engaged and soon to be married to his girlfriend of 4 years. In fact the night he committed suicide they went out to a movie and a dinner and discussed their wedding plans. She said he was very happy and upbeat telling her how he wanted different things to be in their wedding. Like usual, he kissed her goodnight and 45 minutes later he lay dead in his elderly grandparents front yard.

He had called his grandmother telling her he needed to come out and talk with her. He called around midnight and she told him she would wait up for him. His grandfather was still asleep. She waited by the door and turned the outside lights on for him. They lived in a very rural area on a farm so it took him about 30 minutes to get there. She saw him pull up in his truck and she could hear the music coming from it but he parked way over at the side of the yard instead of pulling up to the garage like he always did. As she waited she heard a tremendous boom. Everyone from the south knows the sound of a shotgun. She ran and got his Papa up and they rushed outside. The yard was dark on that area of their vast yard so his grandfather had to get his vehicle and shine the lights in that direction to see him. She called 911 and it took them 30 minutes to get there. He was immediately dead and torn all apart yet they still held him until the EMTs and Sheriff arrived. It ruined both of their lives and they were never the same again. They had practically raised him all of his life.

I still wish to this day that he would have gone to his own apartment to do it if that was what he was determined to do. He made them victims and they never mentally healed or recovered from what they saw and the grandson they lost. They were in their 70s then. It seemed like such a cruel self centered thing to do to the very two that cared about him the most.

We went through everything he owned even his phone, computer and never could find a reason for what he decided to kill himself.

IMO