FL MULBERRY, Fla- East of Tampa, on hill outside a trailer park, Girl, newborn, placenta attached, wrapped in blanket, 28 Jan 2023 *alive*

  • #21
According to WFTS, Magdalena Gregorio Ordonez and her 12-year-old daughter, Eulalia Gregorio, discovered the baby after they heard crying.

“I was really surprised that they left a poor little girl on the [ground]," Gregorio said.

"It was by the Grace of God that we found the abandoned baby girl when we did, before exposure to the cold or any animals caused her any harm. She was left in an extremely vulnerable condition, but she's a strong little girl, and it looks like she's doing great," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said.
That child had to have been traumatized at the idea of somebody abandoning a baby.

This is why we have adoption - to provide parents to children who otherwise wouldn't have them.

I do hope that anyone who was involved in this can be located, and given the help they so obviously need.
 
  • #22
She was just doing what babies do, but ultimately she saved her own life by continuing to cry.

Quite a rough start for a newborn baby.
Wishing Angel Grace a healthy and happy future.
My mother was a foster parent who primarily took care of newborn babies. Most of the mothers were 14, 15, or 16 years old. At least one mother was only 13 years old.
 
  • #23
My mother was a foster parent who primarily took care of newborn babies. Most of the mothers were 14, 15, or 16 years old. At least one mother was only 13 years old.
I was born to a teen mother and left at the hospital. Back then, ’angel’ nurses would know of people looking to adopt babies. And I went to a nice family. There are so many more resources for teen moms nowadays. No reason to dump a baby on a hillside. But I don’t know the circumstances the mother was in, so I am just going to be grateful that baby Angel Grace was found alive and well.
 
  • #24
I worry about the state of our society when people prioritize the state of a mother who left a newborn alone in the woods.
We already know the baby is okay. That part is obvious... the baby was left in the woods, rescued and is in great condition. So you're worried about the state of our society? Most often when babies are dumped in this way it is done willingly by the mother, I get it.

There is still a chance that this wasn't done willingly or that mom is dead somewhere nearby and will start smelling soon. Or that mom was suffering from a mental health crisis, pushed the baby out and walked away. We really don't know what happened. Of course we assume this is the same story we have heard hundreds of times. Until I have all of the facts I will continue hoping that whoever (girl or woman) gave birth to this baby is alive and well.

Hoping mom is found soon.
 
  • #25
I'm so happy the baby made her little self heard and a concerned couple responded :)

And, if they find the mom I'm glad she won't be charged with murder.

Sheriff Grady Judd always means business.
 
  • #26
Many years ago, when I worked at the grocery store, I had a co-worker who was adopted at birth, and she had always known this but never really thought about it until she started working there. One day, she told me, "I'm really glad my mother gave me up, because if she had kept me, that is what my life would probably have been like."

"That" being the large numbers of women we would see with young children, women who had no job, no husband, no education, NO HOPE.
 
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  • #28
This story showed up on my Facebook wall a couple days ago. Not all the comments are positive.


Anyway, one that was, was where Christopher Meloni found out, on that PBS genealogy show, that one of his ancestors did this, and Art Linkletter was one of these "foundling" babies too.
 
  • #29
I worry about the state of our society when people prioritize the state of a mother who left a newborn alone in the woods.

Why? I'll eat my words if I'm wrong in this case, but no little girl's dream is to grow up, give birth in secret, and dump the baby in the woods. I imagine this is likely a very young girl, likely from a strict family, who got pregnant and abandoned by the father, (probably didn't even know about Safe Haven laws), and felt she had no other options. What she did was wrong, but she needs help as well. For all we know, she's a child herself. I don't think we can pass judgment until we know more facts. IMO.
 
  • #30
That child had to have been traumatized at the idea of somebody abandoning a baby.

This is why we have adoption - to provide parents to children who otherwise wouldn't have them.

I do hope that anyone who was involved in this can be located, and given the help they so obviously need.

The problem is that adoption isn't an obvious choice for women who are very young and can't tell their family for whatever reason. I've treated some of these women in my clinic. The youngest I've personally seen was 13 at pregnancy and 14 when she gave birth. They do it all in secrecy because of fear they'll be thrown out of their house. I can't imagine a 13-year-old navigating adoption information. We don't know that's what happened in these cases, but IMO, most of these abandoned baby cases turn out to be by teen moms who don't know any better because they're literally children themselves. It's very, very said for all involved.

MOO.
 
  • #31
Why? I'll eat my words if I'm wrong in this case, but no little girl's dream is to grow up, give birth in secret, and dump the baby in the woods. I imagine this is likely a very young girl, likely from a strict family, who got pregnant and abandoned by the father, (probably didn't even know about Safe Haven laws), and felt she had no other options. What she did was wrong, but she needs help as well. For all we know, she's a child herself. I don't think we can pass judgment until we know more facts. IMO.
Or worse, her father is also the baby's father.

We just need to know who she is so she can get medical care she definitely needs, and other social services too.
 
  • #32
p.s. Based on my own observation as a hospital pharmacist, at least at that facility, the women who placed their babies for adoption were usually not teenagers. They were women in their 20s, 30s, and sometimes even 40s who walked into the ER, usually having had no prenatal care, and said, "I just want to have my baby, and leave it here." They send them to the OB floor where they're trained for all of this, and the women who have vaginal births often leave 2 hours later, when they're allowed to go, and c-sections often go home the next day.

This was about 1% of the births I saw there; the information we got, in order to fill the mothers' and babies' meds, would make a reference to this.
 
  • #33
INTERVIEW WITH SHERIFF JUDD

Sheriff
- It's a story, it's an event that we don't see very often because there is safe haven laws where you can legally take a baby, a week or less in age, to a fire station, EMS station, a hospital and hand it off anonymously and you have no criminal proceedings against you for child neglect or abandonment or anything like that. That's not what happened. This all occurred, starting really, late Friday night when a lady thought she heard some cats screaming and fighting at about midnight, going into Saturday morning and then it quietened down. And then about an hour and a half later, she heard this screaming and crying again. She went outside and said, 'well, that's a baby', so she got her husband and the two of them searched around and out in the woods they found this infant, this beautiful baby girl. I have named her Angel Grace Lnu. She's as beautiful as an angel. It's by the grace of god she is not dead. And Lnu (he pronounces it Lanu), is, last name unknown. So immediately, obviously, they dial 911 and EMS and sheriff's deputies arrived and we found this baby, who is 6.5 lbs, fully developed, very healthy, now has some insect bites for being in the woods, at least, an hour and a half wrapped in some old blankets and left there with, still, the umbilical cord and the placenta attached. So obviously we raced this baby to the hospital and she is in exceptionally good condition. She's a beautiful child.

We believe she's of a Hispanic descent. And we need to know who the parents are. We have worked throughout the community and no one claims to know who the mother is. From experience, usually it's a younger person who does not want the child or has somehow hidden the presence of the child from their parents and now they've abandoned this child in the woods all alone. Thank god for neighbours who were inquisitive and said 'that screaming is not right', and it's coming from, not in the mobile home park, but out in the woods and there they find this child. So at the end of the day, the baby is beautiful and healthy and we are more than happy to provide services. We have turned the child over to the custody of DCF and the investigation is ongoing.

Reporter - The nature in which the child was left in the woods does it lend you to believe that the child was left there to die, essentially?

Sheriff - Oh absolutely, because this child was left in.. it was in the low 50's. It was very cool that evening, and it's an infant. It was, what, an hour old? hour and a half old when we found it. We don't know whether the child was born in the woods or whether the child was taken to the woods after it was born. That is still under investigation. But certainly we saved this person from a homicide charge, because had that child laid out there and died then we would be talking about a murder investigation, now we're not. And you know what? if Mom doesn't want the child, I can tell you there are thousands of people across the United States that would give anything to be able to have a healthy little baby girl. And we'll make sure that the child gets a good home, but we'll also find out, with the communities help, who the mother is. We want to hold her accountable, but she's not required to take the child if she doesn't want the child.

Reporter - You said you will hold her accountable?

Sheriff - We will hold her accountable because she left this child abandoned in the woods, ostensibly to die.

Reporter - And so. we're talking about a child neglect charge?

Sheriff - Sure.

Reporter - If you could map it out for me - I can see this mobile home park, kind of like it's circular, the circle goes around and then you said the woods. So how far did these neighbours have to go into the woods to find this child?

Sheriff - Well, Willow Oak is just west of Mulberry. So Willow Oak is a community, it's not a town, and there's two mobile home parks. So when this lady heard the child screaming at 1:30, she looked over the fence, into the wooded area and could hear from where the sound came, so she had to send her husband out of this mobile home park, around into the other and kind of guided him to the area, and they located him (presuming he means her). So those people are heroes, true heroes. That lady and her husband saved Angel Grace's life.

Reporter - Are there any reasons to believe the person responsible for this, the mother, lives in that mobile home park or is it a drive away?

Sheriff - We have absolutely no idea where the mother is. Historically, and experience tells us that the mother's from the area or has relatives in the area. Somehow, usually the mother of one of these events either lives in that community and/or has relatives or friends in that community. So we have gone door to door and so far, no one has cooperated, if they knew anything, everyone has denied knowing that there was anyone there pregnant. So the investigation goes on.

Reporter - So I want to ask you - I don't know how much you can disclose about this but a baby that is fresh, an hour or so old, attached to the umbilical cord, I mean, I would assume that there's DNA. Is that something that you can investigate?

Sheriff - Absolutely, we've already taken the appropriate DNA samples and we will be at the FDLE lab in Tampa first thing in the morning with the DNA samples. So we will compare those against the databases and see if that leads us any place. There's still a lot of work to do, and over the weekend we've just gathered evidence, talked to a lot of folks and we'll be back to talk to more folks, because it is the weekend. So we'll go back into the community when people are coming home from the weekend and talk once again. But we hope that some of them watch your broadcast on television and, ultimately, can tell us who the mother is. And once again, if the mother does not want the child she can put the child up for adoption. And I can tell you, when you look at this beautiful baby, this beautiful child, there are people standing in line by the thousands, across the state and nation that would love to have this beautiful Angel Grace Lnu.

Reporter - I know you're not the health department but can you talk about safe haven? and I think (??) get a lot of attention, but can you talk about how any fire department, any EMS station?

Sheriff - Sure. The law clearly states that it has to be a staffed station, such as a fire department with personnel, EMS station with personnel, the hospital. You can literally walk up, hand that baby to a firefighter and drive off and never disclose who you are, and there's no criminal liability for that. But you've got to know to do it, and I would suggest that most people don't know there is a safe haven law. We have one, and we encourage the use of that, and every now and then we see that someone takes an infant, less than a week old, to a fire station, or EMS station, or to a hospital. But, literally, they could have handed this infant over into professional's hands, had no liability and we would have been way down the road on this, but thank goodness we see, what appears to be, some minor insect bites, but 6.5 lbs. This baby's healthy and she's got a great set of lungs. So as she was screaming out for help she saved her own life as well.

Reporter - We live in a very political climate right now. I've already heard people say... maybe giving the mother a pass, if you will. What kind of person does something like this?

Sheriff - Oh, you know, anyone that wants to give mother a pass is just absolutely wrong. There has to be accountability because had it not been for a great set of lungs on a healthy baby, she would have been dead. Had it not been for this wonderful lady and her husband, this baby would have been dead. So there has to be responsibility and accountability. It's not like we're going to put her in jail, turn the lock and throw the key away. That's not going to happen. But there has to be responsibility and accountability in our society, especially in light of, there was a way for her to deal with this without any criminal charges at all. But right now, we know the baby's healthy, in the hospital, DCF is doing their thing and we'll make sure the baby has a wonderful home, someplace.

Reporter - In your law enforcement career can you remember another case like this where a baby was left in the woods?

Sheriff - No I can't. I can tell you, I remember children abandoned. Usually they are taken to someone or handed to a neighbor or someone's called, but I can't tell you that I recall ever a baby being wrapped up and placed in the woods, out in the woods, where someone had to go find it, had to search it out. But you know what? when you think about it, the reason that baby's here is because it was born healthy and it had a great set of lungs and there were great people. So all the pieces came together for that child to end up alive, healthy and well and I look forward to the time that that child is in college. And, who knows, maybe that's the little girl that finds the cure to all of these different horrible diseases in some lab in the future.
 
  • #34
Did they literally call her Last Name Unknown? Wow.

Could have at least called her after the nearest cross street or something. How are you even mean to pronounce it? Lah noo?
:) It is strange. It’s just a placeholder name. She’ll be adopted quickly and get her new family’s name! I don’t want to dox myself or give any private info out, but I see a child in healthcare who was legally given up at a fire station under Safe Haven laws. They were not given a name. Of course the adoptive family calls the child their forever name! But legally the child’s name is Unknown Baby (location where we live) until the adoption is final in only a few weeks!! I much prefer Angel Grace Lnu. It makes me sad every time my computer pops up “Unknown.” Jmo
 
  • #35
:) It is strange. It’s just a placeholder name. She’ll be adopted quickly and get her new family’s name! I don’t want to dox myself or give any private info out, but I see a child in healthcare who was legally given up at a fire station under Safe Haven laws. They were not given a name. Of course the adoptive family calls the child their forever name! But legally the child’s name is Unknown Baby (location where we live) until the adoption is final in only a few weeks!! I much prefer Angel Grace Lnu. It makes me sad every time my computer pops up “Unknown.” Jmo
Agree with you there. Angel Grace 100% trumps Unknown. I just think Doe means the same as LNU but is easier to say. But maybe the investigator associates Doe only with dead people, though there is always a percentage of living Does out there. (The nonspeaking young man in Midland TX right now, for example! Or China Black, she's been unIDed for a long time, now, and she's living.)
 
  • #36
What an amazing story of a miracle.
 
  • #37
Agree with you there. Angel Grace 100% trumps Unknown. I just think Doe means the same as LNU but is easier to say. But maybe the investigator associates Doe only with dead people, though there is always a percentage of living Does out there. (The nonspeaking young man in Midland TX right now, for example! Or China Black, she's been unIDed for a long time, now, and she's living.)
This may be a name they used to get the baby admitted to the hospital. My old hospital, if they got a patient whose name was unknown, used the surname "Doe" and went through the alphabet (what's the word for this?) Able, Baker, Charlie, Delta, etc.
 
  • #38
In somewhat related news..
Feb. 11, 2023
''At a news conference Friday, Safe Haven Baby Boxes founder and CEO Monica Kelsey said the child was dropped off within the last seven days at a Bowling Green Fire Department location, declining to be more specific to protect anonymity. She said fire department staff was able to tend to the child in less than 90 seconds.

The child is the 24th in the country to be surrendered at one of more than 130 baby boxes and drawers the organization has established across nine states.


“This baby is healthy. This baby is beautiful. This baby is perfect,” said Kelsey, who added that officials are now looking to place the child in “a forever home.”
 
  • #39
This may be a name they used to get the baby admitted to the hospital. My old hospital, if they got a patient whose name was unknown, used the surname "Doe" and went through the alphabet (what's the word for this?) Able, Baker, Charlie, Delta, etc.

AFAIK that's called the military alphabet? Used to make sure plane & ship call signs are understood over radios iirc.

But I do get plenty of exercise jumping to conclusions.

Just glad this baby girl & the baby in Kentucky are safe, cared for, and healthy.

Hope both Moms are receiving follow-up care as well.
 
  • #40
AFAIK that's called the military alphabet? Used to make sure plane & ship call signs are understood over radios iirc.

But I do get plenty of exercise jumping to conclusions.

Just glad this baby girl & the baby in Kentucky are safe, cared for, and healthy.

Hope both Moms are receiving follow-up care as well.
Yeah, it is. If you watch MASH, all the nurses but Houlihan and Kellye tend to be a revolving cast of temporary actors that are called Nurse Able, Nurse Baker, etc. :)
 

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