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[Toltec]

Those tracks seem too close for tire tracks...they look more like tracks from a gurney.

Why would Lou Smit question John in regards to bicycles? The police took both still and video pictures of the entire Ramsey home. What if Patsy's bike was missing? Burkes? Johns? JonBenets?

The only person mentioned as having rode their bike is JonBenet. It was a new bike so she most likely anxious to try it out.

 

[BlueCrab]

Why would Lou Smit question John in regards to bicycles?

Both John and Patsy were questioned about their bikes and the bike tracks in the snow across the front lawn. They said the tracks were probably from Burke. My guess is the cops were interested in whether or not a person could have exited the house in the middle of the night and escaped by bicycle.

John and Patsy have both stated that JonBenet didn't ride her bike in the snow in the front yard, and had stayed on the patio in the back of the house. So the tracks could have been made by either Burke or a non-family member.

JMO

 

[BlueCrab]

Richard Bjelkovig is a possibility for Patsy's "That's Richard's shirt" comment. Bjelkovig was the Ramsey's co-pilot. Mike Archuleta was the Ramseys pilot.

JMO

 

[Nehemiah]

BC, where in the NE book are the names listed? I was looking for them last night, to no avail. Thanks.

IMO

 

[BlueCrab]

BC, where in the NE book are the names listed? I was looking for them last night, to no avail. Thanks.

IMO

They may not be in there. The NE book has incomplete info on some subjects, particularly stuff involving Burke.

JMO

 

[Toth]

Nehemiah,

I've never heard of Toth's "Flippy Esso". I guess I missed it, if you're joking. Can you give us a little more info? I'm slow.

JMO

Flippy: because a psychiatric social worker described him as having "flipped out" shortly after the murder.

Esso: because "SO" is also the abbreviation for Sexual Offender.

Flippy Esso is supposed to have worn, unknown to the Ramseys, an electronic ankle bracelet that would prove he was at home at nights while he was spending his days painting the Ramsey basement for one of the subcontractors during a remodel job of the Ramsey home.

 

[Ivy]

Has Flippy's DNA been compared to the "mystery" DNA in the database? If not, why not?

imo

 

[Nehemiah]

Has Flippy's DNA been compared to the "mystery" DNA in the database? If not, why not?

imo

I'd like to know that, also, Ivy. Toth, you have said before that lots was going on in this "investigation". Can you update us on any of these things?

IMO

 

[Toth]

No updates presently available.
As for Flippy Esso, Some know his full name, everyone knows his initials, Most know his first name and everyone knows the number of characters in his last name: so using that information you can find out that there is no official indication that his dna was taken or tested in reference to the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Whether it was actually done but not recorded, I do not know.
Those who live near Boulder can check public records easily, but as far as I am concerned his name is Flippy Esso and there is no need to subject him to a media barrage if he has turned his life around. If he hasn't, still no need to harass him.

 

[Ivy]

Flippy sounds like an excellent candidate for DNA testing in the JonBenet case, so I'd like to know if a sample of his DNA has been taken and compared to the sample in the database. If it hasn't been, the re-investigation should be publically exposed for what it is...a sham.

imo

 

[Nehemiah]

Exactly, Ivy. It's been more than a year and people are still throwing around the BPD's name as if they are responsible at this point for the investigation. We heard promises that the new investigation was going to do all these things....yet, have they? Is there any way to find out?

IMO

 

[BlueCrab]

Exactly, Ivy. It's been more than a year and people are still throwing around the BPD's name as if they are responsible at this point for the investigation. We heard promises that the new investigation was going to do all these things....yet, have they? Is there any way to find out?

IMO

Mary Keenan hasn't done squat with the investigation because, IMO, they already know who killed JonBenet. They've known it since the Ramsey GJ disbanded in October of 1999. The Ramseys and certain others should agree to let the truth come out, allow forgivenesses to occur from all around, and bring the case to an amicable close.

JMO

 

[Toth]

Actually, renewed activity involving a person previously reported to the Ramsey investigators and via those investigators to the BPD has been engaged in by the DA-Keenan team. The DA's investigator re-opened a file on one particular suspect within the last two weeks. No further info available at this time though.

 

[Jayelles]

Actually, renewed activity involving a person previously reported to the Ramsey investigators and via those investigators to the BPD has been engaged in by the DA-Keenan team. The DA's investigator re-opened a file on one particular suspect within the last two weeks. No further info available at this time though.

Did Lou Smit share this with Summer when they lunched together? He's skating on very thin ice there. Summer was clear that Keenan and ******* wouldn't answer her questions about the Ramsey case. She didn't say the same of Smit.

 

[Toth]

Did Lou Smit share this with Summer when they lunched together? He's skating on very thin ice there. Summer was clear that Keenan and ******* wouldn't answer her questions about the Ramsey case. She didn't say the same of Smit.

NO.
First of all, Lou Smit is a "one-way information pipeline": information about an investigation flows TO him from the various internet posters and never to them.

My source on this is indirect, but the story seems to be that the individual had been a long way down on the list but has recently been "promoted" a few slots due to some information that had been given to the BPD but was not accorded the value that it should have been.

 

[Nehemiah]

NO.
First of all, Lou Smit is a "one-way information pipeline": information about an investigation flows TO him from the various internet posters and never to them.

My source on this is indirect, but the story seems to be that the individual had been a long way down on the list but has recently been "promoted" a few slots due to some information that had been given to the BPD but was not accorded the value that it should have been.

And I would guess this to be the infamous "Bootman"?

IMO

 

[Jayelles]

NO.
First of all, Lou Smit is a "one-way information pipeline": information about an investigation flows TO him from the various internet posters and never to them.

That is not true. We know for a fact that he shared information with *******. She more than hinted as such on many occasions.

 

[Nehemiah]

That is not true. We know for a fact that he shared information with *******. She more than hinted as such on many occasions.

Surely ******* wouldn't embellish.

 

[Toth]

And I would guess this to be the infamous "Bootman"?

No, Bootman a/k/a Helgoth is dead.

 

[Nehemiah]

No, Bootman a/k/a Helgoth is dead.

Yes, I'm aware of that fact.

IMO