Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #11

[runnermomof5]

I think it's possible she slept in a t-shirt and shorts but those sleepwear sets usually aren't the same thing you'd wear jogging, and of course, no I don't think she'd wear the jogging bra to bed or go jogging without it. Some items of clothes aren't too easy to "redress" on a dead body, imo, so I think it'd be huge to know if she had a bra on when she was found. Even putting the socks & shoes on her might not be that easy. And of course, with redress I have to assume she didn't have any injuries on her body for blood transfer.

BINGO! I have been thinking the same thing about the running bra. I doubt that she would have ran without one and if BC had to dress her in her running clothes before dropping her body off, that running bra would have been very difficult to put on her. IMO, more difficult than the shoes.

 

[SleuthyGal]

He worked out obsessively, he had more than enough clothes he could use to play tennis. This whole thing smells to high heaven...especially when you consider every little thing that does not quite add up.

IMO, Brad Cooper killed Nancy.
There is no doubt in my mind

I have no doubt either. As to whether there is enough 'evidence' to arrest him and make a case in court is a whole other matter. But I will remain hopeful that an arrest & conviction is possible in this case.

 

[panthera]

I mean...these two were NOT communicating about their plans and yet Brad is trying to sell the idea that they were communicating about things like MILK and JUICE?

Yes I know it has to do with the kids' needs, but I still don't believe it. Nopey.

If they were out of milk and juice and this is something she gave the kids, don't you think she would've been screaming about it to her friends and if she didn't have the money, gotten it from one of them that night? In other words, I can't see Nancy allowing the children to be without something they needed and asking him to pick it up on an early morning trip to the store especially when they weren't getting along.

 

[runnermomof5]

I have no doubt either. As to whether there is enough 'evidence' to arrest him and make a case in court is a whole other matter. But I will remain hopeful that an arrest & conviction is possible in this case.

I 3rd that! I have no doubt whatsoever.

 

[reddress58]

I 3rd that! I have no doubt whatsoever.

Me 4.

 

[carolinalady]

He worked out obsessively, he had more than enough clothes he could use to play tennis. This whole thing smells to high heaven...especially when you consider every little thing that does not quite add up.

IMO, Brad Cooper killed Nancy.
There is no doubt in my mind

I don't know. If he was now responsible for his laundry, he could've waited and waited and waited to do laundry (would jive w/ the "yellow sheets").

 

[carolinalady]

I mean...these two were NOT communicating about their plans and yet Brad is trying to sell the idea that they were communicating about things like MILK and JUICE?

Yes I know it has to do with the kids' needs, but I still don't believe it. Nopey.

OK, but in previous threads people were saying even w/ the tension, these people would be calling/communicating with each other about stuff for the kids. This was in response to people saying that if things were tense, they might not have been telling each other their plans.

 

[panthera]

BINGO! I have been thinking the same thing about the running bra. I doubt that she would have ran without one and if BC had to dress her in her running clothes before dropping her body off, that running bra would have been very difficult to put on her. IMO, more difficult than the shoes.

And remember the news report that she was "partially clothed" or words to that effect? Does that mean that something was missing when she was found, like the jogging bra? Just a thought!

 

[pamlet]

Fran, I certainly respect your opinion. However, put yourself in BC's shoes IF he did not do it. He has been trashed and he is concerned he is going to lose custody of his children FOREVER. After reading the affidavits, you see that many of her friend's statements are "Nancy told me" and not directly witnessing the behavior. He is presenting his side of things. I'll state this again, he has plenty in his affidavits that could be proved true or false (looking at signatures on CC receipts, phone calls, emails, etc.).

You're definitely right, Nancy is the true victim here. She's the one who is dead and cannot stand here to defend herself against these statements. However, the statements of her friends have trashed him and he IS here to be able to defend himself.

:clap::clap:
Well said!

 

[carolinalady]

If they were out of milk and juice and this is something she gave the kids, don't you think she would've been screaming about it to her friends and if she didn't have the money, gotten it from one of them that night? In other words, I can't see Nancy allowing the children to be without something they needed and asking him to pick it up on an early morning trip to the store especially when they weren't getting along.

What if the last of the juice & milk was used up when BC brought them home from the BBQ. I think it's more reasonable to go out in the morning (again this is a been there, done that scenario).

 

[panthera]

I don't know. If he was now responsible for his laundry, he could've waited and waited and waited to do laundry (would jive w/ the "yellow sheets").

I don't think the detergent is as big a thing as him going back out again for the juice. I could see him even having to buy his own detergent for his laundry, but not having the things the kids needed for breakfast there in the house, like I said, even if Nancy had to borrow some money from friends for it.

 

[Just the Fax]

I don't know. If he was now responsible for his laundry, he could've waited and waited and waited to do laundry (would jive w/ the "yellow sheets").

He could have just had a 'stinky day'

 

[runnermomof5]

And remember the news report that she was "partially clothed" or words to that effect? Does that mean that something was missing when she was found, like the jogging bra? Just a thought!

Wow, good question!

 

[raisincharlie]

BINGO! I have been thinking the same thing about the running bra. I doubt that she would have ran without one and if BC had to dress her in her running clothes before dropping her body off, that running bra would have been very difficult to put on her. IMO, more difficult than the shoes.

I think there is a definite reason Brad's lawyer was so adamant about getting that autopsy report. Other than the clothing found on her there would have been little a week ago to clear Brad - lab tests would not be back, bloodwork most likely not done. I do think he gave LE a pretty accurate picture of what Nancy was wearing and the autopsy report was to be his confirmation of that.

That being said, I am not at all sure Nancy was murdered as soon as she came home or shortly there after. In some of the affidavits it is indicated that she sometimes ran as early as 5:45 am. It is IMO possible that she indeed got herself up and got dressed and things then got out of control then. I know alot may think that is nuts because he would have had to dump the body in the daylight or very close to it - but it would not be the first time such has happened nor would it be the last. Much discussion here of how remote the area was in which Nancy was found.

 

[Just the Fax]

And remember the news report that she was "partially clothed" or words to that effect? Does that mean that something was missing when she was found, like the jogging bra? Just a thought!

I don't recall a report saying "partially clothed"

Some said Amanda Lamb used that term in her video report, but there is no transcript.
LE did not release that statement so i would doubt she would know that and report it.

 

[carolinalady]

He could have just had a 'stinky day'

The "Stink Day" did bring a smile to my face and certainly seemed reasonable to me. I've had a Stink Day or two myself. Sometimes, as a stay at home mom, it's hard to squeeze that shower into your day.

 

[panthera]

Wow, good question!

I really wish we could read the autopsy report!

 

[cochrngj]

I have lots of reading to catch up on... still have to read half of thread 10 before moving on to this one but I wanted to comment then go back and try to catch up. Like the rest of you, I too have an opinion! Boy are the opinions strong around here!

I’ve been an on-again, off-again lurker for about three years since the Natalee Holloway case. I came back here by way of Eyes when NC was found.

I want to preface my comments by saying I am not convinced that BC is the perp. If he is, IMO this happened by accident from an argument that got way out of control and crossed the line…. Not premeditated. There are many things about this case that just don’t seem right. So much of what is being said is hearsay and secondhand information.

Re the money issues, based upon the things said in the media and in the affidavits, NC sounds like a spoiled, overindulged SAHM that was rebelling when reigned in on her inability to control impulsive spending habits. She got $300 a week (or say BC says), she complained enough that friends AND her parents were giving her money, she sold her personal belongs, and she did odd jobs painting. IMO, NC manipulated the truth to her advantage. I have known many people, some very near and dear, who were the same. IMO the affidavits by friends served only to paint a bad picture of NC. Imagine if you will that you are not from an affluent family and are reading those affidavits. Lots of repetitive whining and mudslinging going on, and almost all of it is based upon hearsay. So little of it is firsthand knowledge that I question the actually witnessed incidents.

BC certainly sounded like a control freak, but what husband that is the sole supporter isn’t to some extent? I would have initiated some of the same steps had I realized I was in a state of financial stress. Actually, I did now that I think of it!

BC was an introvert; NC loved being the center of attention. Opposites attract; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

What makes no sense to me it that if things were as bad as NC wanted her friends and parents to believe, why stick around? She is an educated woman. She was intelligent by all indications. She has a father that is in the business to help in such cases. Why did she stay there? To get the BMW X5, $2100 a month in CS, $50,000 lump sum, alimony, and the residual of the 401K after all else was paid off? This strikes me as a bit odd. Maybe it wasn’t as bad as described. But regardless, NC apparently felt trapped in a marriage to someone she did not want to be married to. But was she trapped by him or by selfish desires?

It will be interesting to see the evidence, if and when it comes to the surface for MSM to print. It will also be interesting to see how much of BC’s rebuttal can be verified in a positive manner. Just too little that is truly know; very little confirmed fact to base judgment upon. Question – I think I read somewhere that everyone in NC’s life will be ruled out as a POI – does that include the twin and BIL, mom and dad, other sis and BIL? Just curious.

This is just one more in a string of sad, sad cases. It is truly so sad that those two little girls have lost a mom who by all appearance adored them. Now they also stand to lose any resemblance of a relationship with their dad. So such. Such a shame. Why can’t adults get along and play fair?

You are one of the few to doubt Brad's guilt. I too am uncertain, or at least believe her death was accidental. If Nancy feared for her safety she should have left. Money was obviously of great concern/interest to both Brad and Nancy. I wonder how LE views the conflicting stories told in the affadavits. Hopefully the truth will come out sometime in the future.

 

[Just the Fax]

You are one of the few to doubt Brad's guilt. I too am uncertain, or at least believe her death was accidental. If Nancy feared for her safety she should have left. Money was obviously of great concern/interest to both Brad and Nancy. I wonder how LE views the conflicting stories told in the affadavits. Hopefully the truth will come out sometime in the future.

The ME ruled it a homicide, how could it be accidental ?

 

[carolinalady]

I don't recall a report saying "partially clothed"

Some said Amanda Lamb used that term in her video report, but there is no transcript.
LE did not release that statement so i would doubt she would know that and report it.

"Cooper, 34, was reported missing Saturday when she failed to meet up with a friend as planned. Two days later, authorities recovered her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home. "

Full story: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3228887/