Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #19

[carolinalady]

SNIP

Like, how MUCH of his affidavits were lies and will be PROVEN through records?:bang:

People think there's no way he would have lied on those affidavits because they can be checked for accuracy.

Fran, I haven't seen anyone say there's no way he would have lied. I know some have questions why would he lie. Others, like myself, have said IF he lied, he certainly has given lots to the plantiffs & LE for their cases.

 

[Topsail Girl]

Bingo Fran. The infamous call to Amber from Paris on New Years Eve. The littl chit had no idea little miss Amber was setting his butt up for death row.

 

[fran]

see your opinion is fine but they way you speak is stereotypical.

Well, you do know this is a stereotypical crime for a stereotypical reason, allegedly by the stereotypical USUAL NOT suspect?

JMHO
fran

 

[momto3kids]

I was raised with the motto, 'actions speak louder than words,' and BC actions have spoken volumes with this entire situation. This was his children's mother, the woman he states he loved, a marriage he wanted to work on....but he is concerned what the public thinks?

He is the one who declined all but one press conference. He didn't attend the private memorial at Bella's pre-school, which I believe the press was off at a distance.

He is not a POI or suspect even today, so why hide and mourn?
I would think if he was uncomfortable thinking the media would be in his face, he could have requested assistance with the CPD.

The most this man has done is tie a white ribbon around his mailbox, that is if he even did it.

Where is the wreath from him at the site NC was found? This was per se her last resting place besides an urn....why hasn't he gone to the site to put something, just something there?

 

[fran]

I can tell you some of why I find her statements "odd":

To me, her statement about that she would KNOW if Nancy & Carey had plans to run made me think of her as being a tad bit jealous.

Also, in her whole statement about Nancy feeling uncomfortable around the Morwicks (I think it was 6d of her affidavit). It totally goes against the statement I read on the HOW board (prior to account deletion) stating that Nancy was Clea & Mike's best friend. That post said they had lots of common interests and what not.

Again, it made me feel like she was jealous, like there was no way the Morwicks could be better friends w/ Nancy than JA.

Now, I do think Jessica sounded panicked in her 911 call and so some of what I find strange in her call (the rambling and not listening to the questions) can certainly be chalked up to that.

So, those are a couple of examples of why JA makes me go...hmmmm.

IIRC, that late night 10:30 p.m. phone call on Nancy's cell phone was JA verifying the next mornings paint date, time. I don't think that's odd what JA said about Nancy not running with Carey that day. We only got one or two sentences about it in the 911 tape.

We have since found out that JA, Nancy and Carey were all in training together for the big race. They all had a schedule and normally told each other when they planned to run, and most likely if it was a lone run or with a partner. Nancy MAY HAVE told JA she was doing a 'short run,' solo before painting. That may be the simple explanation of JA's words to that morning's running plans to the 911 operator.

As far as to the Morwicks. Brad had been spending a great deal of time near the end, with the Morwicks, WITHOUT Nancy. From what I gathered, Nancy felt uncomfortable with them, of late, because she didn't know exactly what type of stuff Brad was telling them behind her back.

IF I recall, it was to the Morwick's Brad made that demanding phone call where he demanded Nancy to bring the girls to their house for dinner. Apparently Nancy had other plans, but changed them and took the girls to their house. Brad made her wait an hour until he arrived. Nancy waited OUTSIDE until his arrival.

ALSO, the last time Nancy was at dinner at their house with Brad and the girls. She claimed a headache and left in the middle of dinner.

Sounds like Nancy was undecided of the Morwicks loyalty towards her.

JMHO
fran

 

[Roy23]

"eehhhhh......YES indeedy they sure can. The problem is, Brad wasn't thinking of LE checking into his statements. Kinda' like the 4:20 a.m. visit to the store to buy detergent. He said it was AFTER daylight. "


Fran,

What proof do you have of this? You seem to speak in facts about all the lies that you know Brad told. I didn't know that anyone had proof that Brad was buying detergent at 4:20 am. I would like to see the link of this news.

 

[d99gr81]

Well, you do know this is a stereotypical crime for a stereotypical reason, allegedly by the stereotypical USUAL NOT suspect?

JMHO
fran

Thing is, if he is proven innocent... and the way you come across... Leave you looking very angry and silly is all.

 

[fran]

I was raised with the motto, 'actions speak louder than words,' and BC actions have spoken volumes with this entire situation. This was his children's mother, the woman he states he loved, a marriage he wanted to work on....but he is concerned what the public thinks?

He is the one who declined all but one press conference. He didn't attend the private memorial at Bella's pre-school, which I believe the press was off at a distance.

He is not a POI or suspect even today, so why hide and mourn?
I would think if he was uncomfortable thinking the media would be in his face, he could have requested assistance with the CPD.

The most this man has done is tie a white ribbon around his mailbox, that is if he even did it.

Where is the wreath from him at the site NC was found? This was per se her last resting place besides an urn....why hasn't he gone to the site to put something, just something there?

Very good points momto3

Where is his grieving?

From what I can see, he's ONLY concerned with APPEARING or PROVING he's innocencent.:waitasec:

IF he's really innocent, there SHOULD be NOTHING to prove.

He ACTS like a guilty man.:behindbar

JMHO
fran

 

[carolinalady]

IIRC, that late night 10:30 p.m. phone call on Nancy's cell phone was JA verifying the next mornings paint date, time. I don't think that's odd what JA said about Nancy not running with Carey that day. We only got one or two sentences about it in the 911 tape.

We have since found out that JA, Nancy and Carey were all in training together for the big race. They all had a schedule and normally told each other when they planned to run, and most likely if it was a lone run or with a partner. Nancy MAY HAVE told JA she was doing a 'short run,' solo before painting. That may be the simple explanation of JA's words to that morning's running plans to the 911 operator.

As far as to the Morwicks. Brad had been spending a great deal of time near the end, with the Morwicks, WITHOUT Nancy. From what I gathered, Nancy felt uncomfortable with them, of late, because she didn't know exactly what type of stuff Brad was telling them behind her back.

IF I recall, it was to the Morwick's Brad made that demanding phone call where he demanded Nancy to bring the girls to their house for dinner. Apparently Nancy had other plans, but changed them and took the girls to their house. Brad made her wait an hour until he arrived. Nancy waited OUTSIDE until his arrival.

ALSO, the last time Nancy was at dinner at their house with Brad and the girls. She claimed a headache and left in the middle of dinner.

Sounds like Nancy was undecided of the Morwicks loyalty towards her.

JMHO
fran

Did you read the HOW board posts?

And, you posted the following:

Because through the affidavits it appears that Nancy had a long personal conversation with Clea the night before she disappeared, I tend to believe Nancy did have plans to run that morning. Maybe a short run, but plans to do so just the same.

So, why would she have a long personal conversation w/ Clea the night before if she was so undecided about their loyalty?

 

[momto3kids]

Very good points momto3

Where is his grieving?

From what I can see, he's ONLY concerned with APPEARING or PROVING he's innocencent.:waitasec:

IF he's really innocent, there SHOULD be NOTHING to prove.

He ACTS like a guilty man.:behindbar

JMHO
fran

He didn't attend any services because he was pouting...plain and simple. IMO The LE stepped in and took his children from him the night of the 16th, the gp's had moved to get this done thru the courts and he was mad. He felt he was tricked...he all but said this in his affidavit.

He had finally lost control of the situations around him and was to put it mildly a little upset.
What better way to show everyone he didn't give a darn then to now show his face in public at the services.

Remember at this point NO affidavits were done by NC's friends so he had no idea what they would be stating. Now unless he knew how they felt about him, but it appears he brought this on himself also.

 

[d99gr81]

IIRC, that late night 10:30 p.m. phone call on Nancy's cell phone was JA verifying the next mornings paint date, time. I don't think that's odd what JA said about Nancy not running with Carey that day. We only got one or two sentences about it in the 911 tape.

We have since found out that JA, Nancy and Carey were all in training together for the big race. They all had a schedule and normally told each other when they planned to run, and most likely if it was a lone run or with a partner. Nancy MAY HAVE told JA she was doing a 'short run,' solo before painting. That may be the simple explanation of JA's words to that morning's running plans to the 911 operator.

As far as to the Morwicks. Brad had been spending a great deal of time near the end, with the Morwicks, WITHOUT Nancy. From what I gathered, Nancy felt uncomfortable with them, of late, because she didn't know exactly what type of stuff Brad was telling them behind her back.

IF I recall, it was to the Morwick's Brad made that demanding phone call where he demanded Nancy to bring the girls to their house for dinner. Apparently Nancy had other plans, but changed them and took the girls to their house. Brad made her wait an hour until he arrived. Nancy waited OUTSIDE until his arrival.

ALSO, the last time Nancy was at dinner at their house with Brad and the girls. She claimed a headache and left in the middle of dinner.

Sounds like Nancy was undecided of the Morwicks loyalty towards her.

JMHO
fran

Meaning they might not have been sympathetic to her embellishments?

 

[d99gr81]

Did you read the HOW board posts?

And, you posted the following:


So, why would she have a long personal conversation w/ Clea the night before if she was so undecided about their loyalty?

Very good point

 

[d99gr81]

He didn't attend any services because he was pouting...plain and simple. IMO The LE stepped in and took his children from him the night of the 16th, the gp's had moved to get this done thru the courts and he was mad. He felt he was tricked...he all but said this in his affidavit.

He had finally lost control of the situations around him and was to put it mildly a little upset.
What better way to show everyone he didn't give a darn then to now show his face in public at the services.

Remember at this point NO affidavits were done by NC's friends so he had no idea what they would be stating. Now unless he knew how they felt about him, but it appears he brought this on himself also.

So he is guilty for not going and not caring?...and he is guilty for caring and defending the affidavits for his kids? Sorry you have him hung out to dry no matter what he does.

 

[carolinalady]

So he is guilty for not going and not caring?...and he is guilty for caring and defending the affidavits for his kids? Sorry you have him hung out to dry no matter what he does.

The other thing about these services is, weren't the children supposed to be there? Maybe, just maybe, he was also thinking about how hard of a time the girls might have if they saw him. The last time they saw him involved them being physically removed from his care by LE.

I know most of you won't buy it as a possible reason, but there is a chance this could be the reason.

 

[carolinalady]

One more thing about questioning the Morwicks' loyalty. Why in the world would she have a beach trip planned w/ them if she questioned their loyalty? And Clea's affidavit stated they talked daily and saw each other several times a week (IIRC).

 

[FullDisclosure]

The other thing about these services is, weren't the children supposed to be there? Maybe, just maybe, he was also thinking about how hard of a time the girls might have if they saw him. The last time they saw him involved them being physically removed from his care by LE.

I know most of you won't buy it as a possible reason, but there is a chance this could be the reason.

Excellent point. Hadn't thought of that.

 

[FullDisclosure]

One more thing about questioning the Morwicks' loyalty. Why in the world would she have a beach trip planned w/ them if she questioned their loyalty? And Clea's affidavit stated they talked daily and saw each other several times a week (IIRC).

And the whole business card design? Was that Mike, or am I remembering incorrectly?

 

[carolinalady]

And the whole business card design? Was that Mike, or am I remembering incorrectly?

Yes, it was Mike.

 

[Roy23]

Excellent point. Hadn't thought of that.

I thought he agreed for them to be in their care for a while.

 

[carolinalady]

I thought he agreed for them to be in their care for a while.

Not until 7/25 just prior to the scheduled temporary custody hearing.

The Ex Parte emergency custody hearing took place 7/16. BC already had plans to meet Nancy's family for dinner so they could see the girls. Instead of her family showing up, the police did. According to reports/affidavits the girls were extremely upset and were clinging to him.

The local and Canadian memorials were all before the scheduled temporary hearing.