Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #19

[FullDisclosure]

I thought he agreed for them to be in their care for a while.

The other thing about these services is, weren't the children supposed to be there? Maybe, just maybe, he was also thinking about how hard of a time the girls might have if they saw him. The last time they saw him involved them being physically removed from his care by LE.

I know most of you won't buy it as a possible reason, but there is a chance this could be the reason.

Roy, I was agreeing that perhaps he was thinking about how hard it might be on the girls.

 

[fran]

Thing is, if he is proven innocent... and the way you come across... Leave you looking very angry and silly is all.

IF you think I WANT him to be guilty, you're sadly mistaken. This crime has already caused a family to loose a mother to two small children. IF he's guilty, they will basically be orphans.

Whether he's guilty or innocent and IF or NOT he's convicted, there are no winners here. Nancy will always be gone forever.

I don't think it will leave me angry or looking silly. I would be happy he wasn't the perp and I would ALSO profoundly apologize to him. Heck, I'd even write a hard copy letter of apology if I thought he'd read it.

Silly, never! Just using deductions. I really don't believe I'll be needing to write that apology anyway. I understand the investigation is moving along nicely. I'm sure there will be an arrest soon. Oh, it may be a few weeks, but that's just because they need to wait for other agencies, etc.

JMHO
fran

 

[fran]

Did you read the HOW board posts?

And, you posted the following:


So, why would she have a long personal conversation w/ Clea the night before if she was so undecided about their loyalty?

I believe it's called two sides to the story.

fran

 

[fran]

Meaning they might not have been sympathetic to her embellishments?

Or, PERHAPS it isn't Nancy who USED to embellish but Brad.

After all, I don't think he'd ever admit he was making close to 1/2 mil this year and wouldn't even give his wife enough money for gas and food and clothes for the children.

Nah.........it was all Nancy's fault, in the WORLD, ACCORDING TO BRAD.

JMHO
fran

 

[fran]

One more thing about questioning the Morwicks' loyalty. Why in the world would she have a beach trip planned w/ them if she questioned their loyalty? And Clea's affidavit stated they talked daily and saw each other several times a week (IIRC).

Yes, and she also may have known anything she told them, would get back to Brad.

Like the husband giving affidavits to both sides of the custody situation.

Just sayin'
fran

 

[fran]

And the whole business card design? Was that Mike, or am I remembering incorrectly?

Yeah, and Brad cut off Nancy's credit so she couldn't do her side business.

Of course now to hear the grieving husband, it was to curtail Nancy's wild spending.

I believe IF there is a court case, Nancy's attempt to earn a living and Brad cutting off her credit cards and Nancy filing for legal separation are all going to be totally entiwined together.

JMHO
fran

 

[carolinalady]

Another poster, many threads ago, stated that IF this family was in serious debt, that many schools of thought are to put all accounts in 1 name and operate on a cash budget.

Also, it is easy to accumulate debt even if you make a lot of money. Making a decent income doesn't preclude that. If your spending outpaces your earnings you are going to be in debt.

 

[FullDisclosure]

Yeah, and Brad cut off Nancy's credit so she couldn't do her side business.

Of course now to hear the grieving husband, it was to curtail Nancy's wild spending.

I believe IF there is a court case, Nancy's attempt to earn a living and Brad cutting off her credit cards and Nancy filing for legal separation are all going to be totally entiwined together.

JMHO
fran

Fran, how did we get here? We were talking about Mike designing Nancy's business cards and how a "less than loyal" friend probably wouldn't do that.

I believe all the other threads were devoted to Brad being a meanie, but this was another subject, until now...

 

[Roy23]

Not until 7/25 just prior to the scheduled temporary custody hearing.

The Ex Parte emergency custody hearing took place 7/16. BC already had plans to meet Nancy's family for dinner so they could see the girls. Instead of her family showing up, the police did. According to reports/affidavits the girls were extremely upset and were clinging to him.

The local and Canadian memorials were all before the scheduled temporary hearing.

I see. I am certain that was why Brad did not attend the memorial. I still think he should have been there with his girls if he was allowed. They will miss their Dad whether they see him or not.

 

[chauncey7381]

Hmmmm. Just checking in, don't have time to follow the daily chit chat during the week.

I see the N&O reports today the family still wants a psych evaluation, personally, I think they should submit to one as well.

Far as Mr. Cooper and his absentia at the Memorials sponsored by the Loch"smear" crowd, and the Canadians. Ummm, I wouldn't attend either. Are you kidding, these folks are accusing him of murder, why should he go there and even look at those folks. C'mon, what does Mr. Cooper owe me? Nothing! He owes the Loch "smear" folks nothing. I wouldn't have attended them either. He had his own PRIVATE service.

Oh and Chief Bazemore's comments about her confidence, etc., quip about solving this case reminds me of many CEOs progress reports on quarterly conference calls.

Off to the pool and gym....

Tick tock.

 

[Roy23]

Yeah, and Brad cut off Nancy's credit so she couldn't do her side business.

Of course now to hear the grieving husband, it was to curtail Nancy's wild spending.

I believe IF there is a court case, Nancy's attempt to earn a living and Brad cutting off her credit cards and Nancy filing for legal separation are all going to be totally entiwined together.

JMHO
fran

Fran,

Do you know the difference between facts and heresay? Seriously. Still waiting on the 4:20 am Harris Teeter link.

 

[Roy23]

Another poster, many threads ago, stated that IF this family was in serious debt, that many schools of thought are to put all accounts in 1 name and operate on a cash budget.

Also, it is easy to accumulate debt even if you make a lot of money. Making a decent income doesn't preclude that. If your spending outpaces your earnings you are going to be in debt.

I have heard of that before. I also heard that keeping credit card debt can be a very bad thing.

 

[FullDisclosure]

Fran,

Do you know the difference between facts and heresay? Seriously. Still waiting on the 4:20 am Harris Teeter link.

Hey Roy, I'll get you that link! Oh, wait....there ISN'T one!!

Seriously, thanks for reminding us again about facts vs. hearsay. It can't be stressed enough here. IMHO, of course. :crazy:

 

[fran]

Another poster, many threads ago, stated that IF this family was in serious debt, that many schools of thought are to put all accounts in 1 name and operate on a cash budget.

Also, it is easy to accumulate debt even if you make a lot of money. Making a decent income doesn't preclude that. If your spending outpaces your earnings you are going to be in debt.

See the thing is, many people are assuming that Brad is telling the TRUTH, that their precarious financial condition was all because of Nancy. Nancy was the spender. Nancy was the 'embellisher,' which by the way is another word for liar. Nancy wanted to break up their home. Brad gave Nancy plenty of money for food and what not, she just didn't know how to manage HIS money. Nancy continued running in preparation for a marathon or whatever, but yet he, Brad had decided to curtail his practice or whatever, to work on the family.:boohoo:

I dunno, I guess I just don't understand how a woman could have Mr. Perfect who even earned a fantastic living, and by all of Brad's accounts he never did anything except to work day and night to support his family and save his marriage. Yet, Nancy still wanted to leave him?

Course, I guess it COULD be that Brad is the :liar: and behind closed doors he could be a monster!

We can't ask Nancy because she's dead. So I guess we'll just have to go by Brad's word for it. NOT!!!!!!

JMHO
fran

PS......ah yes, I seem to remember affidavits by Nancy's friends that Brad held the purse strings and controlled the money. Looking from the outside in, looks like Nancy was right! Course, I can't discuss it with her because she's dead........

 

[raisincharlie]

Hey Roy, I'll get you that link! Oh, wait....there ISN'T one!!

Seriously, thanks for reminding us again about facts vs. hearsay. It can't be stressed enough here. IMHO, of course. :crazy:

Now this is funny - after two and a half pages of hearsey and interpretation of what it means if someone goes or doesn't go to memorial services, who trusts who, who might be jealous, and who might be uncomfortable - very funny indeed.

 

[fran]

Fran,

Do you know the difference between facts and heresay? Seriously. Still waiting on the 4:20 am Harris Teeter link.

Ah, the old you don't have a link so it's not true scenario.

Ok, fine.

But I'm sure Brad knows about it!

Just sayin'
fran

 

[MoonFlwr]

I see what you're saying. I really do. Another way to look at it, though, is that if he WERE guilty he'd want to go just to look innocent. So, IMO, if he were basing his decision on "what people think" he would have gone, because it DOES look bad not to go! (We definitely agree on that point!!) So I view not going as more a sign of respect to maintain the integrity of the service for Nancy and not detract with all the hoopla.

Maybe I just need coffee...:crazy:

Yeah, I veer more towards this side of the issue, too!

 

[Roy23]

Now this is funny - after two and a half pages of hearsey and interpretation of what it means if someone goes or doesn't go to memorial services, who trusts who, who might be jealous, and who might be uncomfortable - very funny indeed.

RC,

I think the point is that most of us are using phrases that express an opinion. Fran's are very far from that.

 

[FullDisclosure]

Now this is funny - after two and a half pages of hearsey and interpretation of what it means if someone goes or doesn't go to memorial services, who trusts who, who might be jealous, and who might be uncomfortable - very funny indeed.

If you read my posts, you see words/phrases such as "perhaps" or "another way to look at it might be.." and the like. Yes, there is an attempt to interpret/understand a person's actions, which is very different from heresay of taking things as fact (like he bought bleach or detergent or whatever at 4:00 or 4:20) and running with them--and then tacking on IMHO at the end.

IMHO. :crazy:

 

[MoonFlwr]

Where is the wreath from him at the site NC was found? This was per se her last resting place besides an urn....why hasn't he gone to the site to put something, just something there?

Hang on...do we know with 100% certainty that he has put nothing there?
There were dead flowers and fresher ones there when the WS PI's went to where Nancy's body was found.

Is it just assumed it could not possibly have been Brad placing one of the bunches of flowers there?