Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #20

[raisincharlie]

Well alrighty then! It seems old Brad MAY have gone to LTF to make an appearance that he was (allegedly ) looking for his dear wife.

Wonder where else he went during that more than two hourse, that he did NOT want witnesses?

JMHO
fran

The car wash

 

[Skittles]

Are these photos of the same Scott? These are all supposed to be pictures of athlete 647 in this race, listed as Scott Heider. If you enlarge the photos you can see "Scott" on his racing number.

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_event.asp?EVENTID=13991&BIB=647&LNSEARCH=1


ETA: Crap, this was supposed to go in the astrology thread, oh well.

 

[Onescout]

The car wash

Hi guys,

Geez, I go outa town and hoped when I came back, maybe,maybe someone was charged!

Anyway, love all the theories on WHY BC drove around for soooooo long with those girls...so far here's what I've seen ....

1) Car wash (love this)
2) Disposing of something
3) Being seen as "looking" for Nancy
4) Coaching the girls on what to say
5) My personal theory, buying time, possibly considering bolting and then thinking better of it.

If /when he is charged, this will be something the prosecution will focus on...you know how they love timelines!

This is one of the many things BC did that make him look very suspicious.
...

 

[Topsail Girl]

Skittles according to this link that is Scott Heider - I looked up his jersey number

http://ironman.com/assets/files/results/arizona/2007.htm

ETA He finished 244th

 

[Anderson]

Are these photos of the same Scott? These are all supposed to be pictures of athlete 647 in this race, listed as Scott Heider. If you enlarge the photos you can see "Scott" on his racing number.

http://www.asiorders.com/view_user_event.asp?EVENTID=13991&BIB=647&LNSEARCH=1


ETA: Crap, this was supposed to go in the astrology thread, oh well.

Thanks Skittles. I believe that Scott was the only other person besides BC to describe Nancy as a story teller who often exaggerated. It still seems so odd to me for both Brad and Scott to speak this way about a wife/friend who has just been killed. I suppose that they felt this would be the only way that they could respond to the affidavits of NC's friends. Still, all just thoughts.

IMO

 

[Skittles]

Skittles...he claims he went into LTF to ask about her. How in the heck did he do it...my wife is this tall, hair this color, etc? There is NO photo on the ID I understand.

A--If LTF gives out the information to him with no problem he could have called.
B--He knows she couldn't enter without an ID at all. He states she didn't carry anything on her to jog.
C--By the time he arrived to look in any parking lot hours had past since she left home. If anything happened to her she would have contacted him or a friend.
D--We didn't hear him state he called the hospital. Since she had no ID that is the 1st place he should have called.

IMO this is highly suspicious. His activity from the time he left home to the time LE called him.

Oh I agree this is suspicious. I doubt she ever went running. But he could have had a reason to think she might have run that path, and gone into check at the front desk while he was there.

I don't understand your emphasis on no photo on the ID at LTF. He has an ID; it's a family membership. He could ask them to check the computer to see if she checked in (although why she would go in at all is a mystery). They do have your photo on the computer when they run the ID through.

 

[Skittles]

Skittles according to this link that is Scott Heider - I looked up his jersey number

http://ironman.com/assets/files/results/arizona/2007.htm

ETA He finished 244th

Yes, I had seen that. Just wasn't sure it wasn't some other Scott Heider.

 

[raisincharlie]

Hi guys,

Geez, I go outa town and hoped when I came back, maybe,maybe someone was charged!

Anyway, love all the theories on WHY BC drove around for soooooo long with those girls...so far here's what I've seen ....

1) Car wash (love this)
2) Disposing of something
3) Being seen as "looking" for Nancy
4) Coaching the girls on what to say
5) My personal theory, buying time, possibly considering bolting and then thinking better of it.

If /when he is charged, this will be something the prosecution will focus on...you know how they love timelines!

This is one of the many things BC did that make him look very suspicious.
...

I thought about number 5 on your list - buying time in particular. I suspect if this was part of it, he figured he could hold off anymore questions from JA by saying he was out looking and I suspect he didn't think she would call 911, and definitiely not as quick as she did.

But I also suspect when LE called him to return to the house, he may have visited that car wash again - it was too late to run at that point. :crazy:

 

[momto3kids]

Oh I agree this is suspicious. I doubt she ever went running. But he could have had a reason to think she might have run that path, and gone into check at the front desk while he was there.

I don't understand your emphasis on no photo on the ID at LTF. He has an ID; it's a family membership. He could ask them to check the computer to see if she checked in (although why she would go in at all is a mystery). They do have your photo on the computer when they run the ID through.

Skittles...with no photo on his ID, I would think he would have to present his ID to obtain information about a guest. Wife or not, the lady at the desk doesn't know the circumstances. Once scanned his photo comes up at LTF to confirm it is him. Then possibly they would tell him.

But, if they give information freely about their guests with no ID required, then he could have just made a phone call.

 

[Skittles]

Skittles...with no photo on his ID, I would think he would have to present his ID to obtain information about a guest. Wife or not, the lady at the desk doesn't know the circumstances. Once scanned his photo comes up at LTF to confirm it is him. Then possibly they would tell him.

But, if they give information freely about their guests with no ID required, then he could have just made a phone call.

I see what you mean. I'm guessing he would need to present an ID. Maybe if he called they would accept his CallerID info for sufficiently identifying him, though.

 

[momto3kids]

I still have a problem with
A--the amount of time between leaving home and being called by LE
B--going to Carey's last when he was headed out the door to check there. BC put it last on his list of places he checked.
C--not calling the hospital at all. This is the 1st place he should have called IMO, especially since she had no ID.
D--not accepting help from JA for the girls so he could go to remote areas NC might have jogged
E--driving streets and parking lots? I know...no one else would have helped an injured jogger if they saw her. So did BC think people would drive or jog past someone who needed help?:bang:

 

[raisincharlie]

I still have a problem with
A--the amount of time between leaving home and being called by LE
B--going to Carey's last when he was headed out the door to check there. BC put it last on his list of places he checked.
C--not calling the hospital at all. This is the 1st place he should have called IMO, especially since she had no ID.
D--not accepting help from JA for the girls so he could go to remote areas NC might have jogged
E--driving streets and parking lots? I know...no one else would have helped an injured jogger if they saw her. So did BC think people would drive or jog past someone who needed help?:bang:

C is a real kicker for me given that Nancy suffered from Crohn's. Brad was not blind to the implications of this, He made a good argument of it to keep his kids away from Nancy's sister. I have to question why JA had enough sense to call Wake Med but not the husband. It is unfathomable IMO.

 

[Skittles]

Heck he could have stopped by the hospital on his way to Lifetime Fitness. It's at the Tryon/Kildaire intersection and is about 1/2 mile from Carey Clark's.

 

[raisincharlie]

Heck he could have stopped by the hospital on his way to Lifetime Fitness. It's at the Tryon/Kildaire intersection and is about 1/2 mile from Carey Clark's.

<THUD>

You local folks are certainly an asset :clap::clap::clap: - thanks for the info Skittles - I sure did not know there was a hospital in the immediate area - holy cow.

 

[fran]

I think a phone call would have worked as well Mt3K - and the looking for Nancy part - I question what he thought he could see of the running trails from a vehicle to begin with. Just trying to be logical - I don't see how he could have believed he could tell anything about the trails. Then from reading posters responses - it does not seem that LTF is exactly on the way to Carey's house. JMO, it kind of smells funny and for some reason the trip to LTF has my hinky meter through the roof - as you say, according to Brad all Nancy took running was a stick of gum.

Ok, this is in part what has bothered me from the beginning. He had a chance for someone to take care of the kids so he could go look for Nancy. She's running on trails that go back off the road, so there's NO way he would have been able to completely check everywhere she may have been from a car.

I know, I know, he's allgedly excited and we do things not right and forget things and we all act differently. :behindbar

IF he were running all three known trails Nancy normally took, THEN I could see him be gone for over two hours. But driving the trails and checking the coffee shop, LTF, and Carey's parking lot..........naw, STILL doesn't work for me.

I believe ONE reason he left the house was because he was AFRAID Jessica was going to come by AND like others said, he didn't know she'd call 911. After all, he thought he had another 24 hours before LE would be called in. He said it himself. He thought a person had to be 'missing' 24 hours before LE would look for them.

BOOOOOO

SURPRISE!

JMHO
fran

GOT 'CHA! Little slip of the tongue!?:woohoo:

 

[fran]

Heck he could have stopped by the hospital on his way to Lifetime Fitness. It's at the Tryon/Kildaire intersection and is about 1/2 mile from Carey Clark's.

:woohoo:

ANOTHER!! RED FLAG ALERT!!

Just keeps pilin' up, doesn't it:yuck: Brad?

Details............:bang:

JMHO
fran

 

[fran]

The car wash

yes indeedy, I would imagine.

Gosh! Wonder IF he checked for cameras?:crazy:

:behindbarI hope not and there is!:behindbar

JMHO
fran

 

[fran]

Skittles according to this link that is Scott Heider - I looked up his jersey number

http://ironman.com/assets/files/results/arizona/2007.htm

ETA He finished 244th

I'll never understand how a man could remain friends with a guy who slept with his wife. I don't care that she's now 'ex' Mrs. Heider NO HYPHEN!

Betrayal of trust is a powerful thing. UNLESS they're two of a kind?:waitasec:

Nahhhh...........nothing to indicate Mr Heider is ANYTHING like Brad.......well, other than being allegedly friends.

From Mr. Heider's affidavit, it seems he may have blamed Nancy for HIS WIFE'S infidelity.......he seems pretty angry at Nancy and NOT Brad. Pretty messed up if you ask me. Wonder if there's something we don't know?:crazy:

JMHO
fran

 

[momto3kids]

<THUD>

You local folks are certainly an asset :clap::clap::clap: - thanks for the info Skittles - I sure did not know there was a hospital in the immediate area - holy cow.

How did I forget to tell you there is one right on the other corner at the 4-way stop at HT?:waitasec: Yup...sure is.

We didn't hear about a call there did we? Anyone with an ounce of concern...would IMO made this the priority.

But his concern was NOT finding NC, it was covering his :behind: and tracks!!

 

[fran]

How did I forget to tell you there is one right on the other corner at the 4-way stop at HT?:waitasec: Yup...sure is.

We didn't hear about a call there did we? Anyone with an ounce of concern...would IMO made this the priority.

But his concern was NOT finding NC, it was covering his :behind: and tracks!!

Like I said, I think he went by the Scott Peterson playbook, IF he did it.

Scott didn't call hospitals either,........but he did have the yellow pages opened up to 'criminal defense attorneys' when the first responders went into his house. Yep, all layed out pretty on the kitchen counter.:behindbar

Another thing that shows his lack of concern, to ME, is, now that we KNOW Nancy was murdered, shouldn't he WANT the REAL KILLER caught?

With his HUGE bonus, you'd think he'd offer a reward of sumpin'. :waitasec: Or is he waiting for someone else to pick up the tab,........like for Nancy's funeral?

JMHO
fran