Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #26

[jumpstreet]

Yep. If specific features cannot be selectively password protected or locked and that phone was used on 7/12 then

- either it had a password and the password was known to someone other than Nancy or the password was figured out.

or

- the phone had no password and was given one on or after 7/12.

I realize this isn't the "Not Yet Convinced" thread, but just for completeness, there's also the scenario that NC herself knew the password, and she was the only one who used it on 7/12.

 

[jumpstreet]

...How it was explained by one poster is that certain features can be locked, so one could still use the phone to make calls but have no access to lists, text messages, etc.

Based on review of online documentation for the phone... this seems unlikely. (But I suppose still possible if there is some undocumented capability to do so).

 

[reddress58]

I realize this isn't the "Not Yet Convinced" thread, but just for completeness, there's also the scenario that NC herself knew the password, and she was the only one who used it on 7/12.

...she could have and STILL been murdered by her husband. He could very well have done it after the 6:40 phone call.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I realize this isn't the "Not Yet Convinced" thread, but just for completeness, there's also the scenario that NC herself knew the password, and she was the only one who used it on 7/12.

But not after 7am! And if there are any calls made from her phone after 7am, it could not have been Nancy making them!

 

[jumpstreet]

But not after 7am! And if there are any calls made from her phone after 7am, it could not have been Nancy making them!

Fixing my own post here... based on the fact that BC reported her leave at 7am, and we know she didn't take the phone with her. Makes sense. So yeah, any calls after 7am, presumably weren't made by NC. If the call was made @ 6:40 by NC... then it would imply the crime and drop occurred after HT trips, and well after sun-up.

 

[reddress58]

But not after 7am! And if there are any calls made from her phone after 7am, it could not have been Nancy making them!

But we don't know if LE is looking at calls made after 7 am. We DO know that Brad insists that NC made a call to him while he was in HT. For all we know, this is the call LE was quizzing MH about.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I'm basing it on Brad's statement that she left by 7am and he never saw her again...and he said she did not have her cell phone with her.

 

[reddress58]

Are you basing this on the ME's report that TOD is likely "around the time" she supposedly went missing?

Can ME be that exact? I don't think so.

 

[garner_nc]

All it takes is for BC to get the cell phone bill to see who she was calling. She would not be able to hide that. He paid the bill so he had access to that.

Therefore, wonder why the BC camp has not posted the phone records from his phone and her phone for the times in question? Not that they HAVE to, but considering they posted videos and photos - makes me wonder.

 

[reddress58]

Based on review of online documentation for the phone... this seems unlikely. (But I suppose still possible if there is some undocumented capability to do so).

JS, your statement VERY MUCH belongs on this thread. It is an optional scenario regardless if you are or are not convinced of his guilt. Please don't feel you need to walk on eggshells. Your contributions have always been well thought out and enlightning. I don't get the feel you are cramming your opinions down others' throats.

 

[jumpstreet]

I'm basing it on Brad's statement that she left by 7am and he never saw her again...and he said she did not have her cell phone with her.

Right... realized it after my post. Good point. Even if NC made the call @ 6:40, I suppose it doesn't prove BC is innocent necessarily. Would seem to change the 'prevailing wind' timeline somewhat... but doesn't necessarily prove anything.

 

[reddress58]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3668341/

"Cooper children adjusting well", psychologist says.

 

[jmflu]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3668341/

"Cooper children adjusting well", psychologist says.

You know, I'm wondering where LE got the information that the cell phone was locked due to Nancy's wanting to keep the info private during the divorce.

She certainly couldn't have told them that.

Perhaps HE told them that, as a reason for the phone being locked. Perhaps she never even locked her phone, didn't even know how even, and then to hide the info from LE, BC locked the phone and said NC did it to keep the info private.

 

[jumpstreet]

You know, I'm wondering where LE got the information that the cell phone was locked due to Nancy's wanting to keep the info private during the divorce.

She certainly couldn't have told them that.

Perhaps HE told them that, as a reason for the phone being locked. Perhaps she never even locked her phone, didn't even know how even, and then to hide the info from LE, BC locked the phone and said NC did it to keep the info private.

The warrant says that "during the course of the investigation, the detectives learned that she kept it locked to keep information confidential due to the pending separation/divorce"

I guess it's possible BC is the one they learned this from, but off hand, it also seems possible that one of NC's friends could have relayed this.

The SW also says that the phone was locked when they obtained it on the 12th.

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So if I understand right, BC gave them both the phone, and the address books on the 12th. At some point after that, they returned these things to him... and now they are executing a separate SW to get them back again... to review them... again. Is that it?

 

[reddress58]

Get your hankys out to read these latest affidavits, people. You're in for a good cry!

 

[mahmoo]

JS, your statement VERY MUCH belongs on this thread. It is an optional scenario regardless if you are or are not convinced of his guilt. Please don't feel you need to walk on eggshells. Your contributions have always been well thought out and enlightning. I don't get the feel you are cramming your opinions down others' throats.

And I second that emotion :blowkiss:

 

[mahmoo]

... and now they are executing a separate SW to get them back again... to review them... again. Is that it?

Sounds like .........I still think it's cause they wanna see if he's done anything to the phone since they (LE) had it.

 

[jmflu]

Krista Lister's affidavit CLEARLY INDICATES CONTROL.

 

[jumpstreet]

And I second that emotion :blowkiss:

Thanks mahmoo & reddress... I appreciate that.

[reddress... you're right, the family affidavits are tough reads... a reminder that there's no happy ending to this saga ]

 

[jumpstreet]

Krista Lister's affidavit CLEARLY INDICATES CONTROL.

Agreed... some additional "first hand" observation we were looking for earlier...