Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #26

[ncnative]

Ha ha, RC! "Anywhere near Stoneferry?" I know what you're getting at. SH lives on Stoneferry. But, what ARE you getting at?

 

[SleuthyGal]

The whole vacuuming story is nonsensical IMO.

I tried to make some sense of it, but couldn't get there via logic.

 

[jmflu]

I tried to make some sense of it, but couldn't get there via logic.

Try contemplating it on the "BC is innocent" thread.

There, you can just skip over logic!

 

[ncnative]

You do know, RC, that Stoneferry is across the street from where BC was jogging at Lake J. I think you know that, or you wouldn't have said anything. Anyway, thanks for the laugh about "picking up the pace".

 

[raisincharlie]

Ha ha, RC! "Anywhere near Stoneferry?" I know what you're getting at. SH lives on Stoneferry. But, what ARE you getting at?

Nothing really except that is a good distance from Wallsburg Court, and lots of major intersections to cross if he ran from Wallsburg to that area.
What would keep him from crossing Holly Springs during one of his runs ? Even though the area where Nancy was found is considered remote, I'm not inclined to think Brad was unaware of the area. JMO.

Yeah SH lives on Stoneferry and this is where he went the day his wife's body was identified.

 

[ncnative]

Yep, it's definitely getting hot in here.:furious:

 

[SleuthyGal]

FYI, Saturday (and Sunday) were GORGEOUS days here in the Triangle! Low humidity, blue skies, just a crystal clear fabu kind of day. Today is the same. It would almost be a crime not to be outside! :wink:

 

[raisincharlie]

You do know, RC, that Stoneferry is across the street from where BC was jogging at Lake J. I think you know that, or you wouldn't have said anything. Anyway, thanks for the laugh about "picking up the pace".

A good laugh is always in order Glad you caught the inference.

 

[jumpstreet]

Nothing really except that is a good distance from Wallsburg Court, and lots of major intersections to cross if he ran from Wallsburg to that area.
What would keep him from crossing Holly Springs during one of his runs ? Even though the area where Nancy was found is considered remote, I'm not inclined to think Brad was unaware of the area. JMO.

Yeah SH lives on Stoneferry and this is where he went the day his wife's body was identified.

It's fairly common for folks to drive to Lake Johnson and then run/walk/play at that park. Just because he was spotted running there, I wouldn't necessarily derive that he therefore would know (ahead of time) about the body discovery site.

He certainly may very well have known about that site... but I wouldn't say his running this past weekend at LJ makes that any more or less likely (MO).

 

[ncnative]

deleted, because I accidently re-posted this one when I was editing. It's on the next page.

Dang.[B

Ahyep, go to the next page for this screwed up location of my post.

 

[raisincharlie]

It's fairly common for folks to drive to Lake Johnson and then run/walk/play at that park. Just because he was spotted running there, I wouldn't necessarily derive that he therefore would know (ahead of time) about the body discovery site.

He certainly may very well have known about that site... but I wouldn't say seeing him this past weekend at LJ makes that any more or less likely (MO).

The reference being he runs. I don't care how he gets to where he starts - only that he runs. This does leave open the possiblity he ran in his own area and we do know from photographs, there were, or least there was one jogger through the area where Nancy was found. Not so remote, joggers and folks walking their dogs. Anything is possible.

 

[jumpstreet]

May have been discussed... and/or maybe I posted it on another thread - but: Does anyone else find it somewhat surprising that LE didn't seek to get NC's mobile phone unlocked from day-1? Wouldn't this have been a reasonable step along the lines of being thorough / "turning over all stones"?

Regardless, any speculation as to what has triggered them to do so now? Was in something MH shared with them during his recent interrogation? Or - something else

 

[ncnative]

It's fairly common for folks to drive to Lake Johnson and then run/walk/play at that park. Just because he was spotted running there, I wouldn't necessarily derive that he therefore would know (ahead of time) about the body discovery site.

He certainly may very well have known about that site... but I wouldn't say his running this past weekend at LJ makes that any more or less likely (MO).

JUMPSTREET: Lake Johnson has nothing at all to do with the location of Nancy's dump site. Nothing at all.

RC and I are joking about the fact that Stoneferry is ACROSS the street from Lake J where Brad was seen jogging the other day by one of our WS posters. Stoneferry is Scott Heider's street.

Nancy was left at a place off Holly Springs Rd., a few miles from Brad's home. Nowhere related to Lake J.

 

[mahmoo]

I was gonna pass some of these

out on the "other" thread but decided I didn't want to run the risk of getting my head gnawed off........sheesh.

Slinking back off into the shadow of my cow's lips :crazy:

 

[jumpstreet]

The reference being he runs.

We already knew that he runs, right? All triathletes do...

Don't disagree that he may have known ahead of time about the discovery site... (via looking at houses, running there, or just exploring). Observing him this past weekend at LJ (to me anyway) doesn't make it more (or less) likely than it already was.

 

[raisincharlie]

May have been discussed... and/or maybe I posted it on another thread - but: Does anyone else find it somewhat surprising that LE didn't seek to get NC's mobile phone unlocked from day-1? Wouldn't this have been a reasonable step along the lines of being thorough / "turning over all stones"?

Regardless, any speculation as to what has triggered them to do so now? Was in something MH shared with them during his recent interrogation? Or - something else

Why would they need to unlock it from day one when it is highly likely they subpeona'd the phone records to check all the calls made in the weeks before her murder ? The phone itself isn't going to list those calls. If they didn't have a list of calls from her phone why would they be asking Hiller about using Nancy's phone?

The search warrant is for things on the phone other than calls. IMO, LE is cleaning up the case.

 

[ncnative]

RC, I was just amused at your reference to Stoneferry, b/c you knew that she (Cary Resident) had been jogging at Lake J. & saw Brad Cooper there jogging on the trail, and SH's house is across the street on Stoneferry.

Yes, I'll never forget where Brad went to spend a few nights after Nancy was killed, and took his girls with him. Scott Heider's on Stoneferry.

So, Sleuthy mentioned that she is of the opinion that quite a few are convinced that SH was involved in this. I don't really think, now that he was, except for the fact that he KNOWS something. After all, look at that tangled web of Scott H., Scott's ex-wife's affair with Brad Cooper (or was it a "one night stand"?), Nancy being lied to by BC that he had anything to DO with Scott's wife (at that time Scott was married to Heather during her "thing" with Brad Cooper, and supposedly NC's good friend), Nancy confronting Brad about the "liason", Brad lying about it, and THEN....and then, Nancy is murdered and whose home does Brad go to and spend the night with, taking his two daughters, after the murder?? Scott Heider's.

Scott knows something, IMO.

 

[jumpstreet]

JUMPSTREET: Lake Johnson has nothing at all to do with the location of Nancy's dump site. Nothing at all.

RC and I are joking about the fact that Stoneferry is ACROSS the street from Lake J where Brad was seen jogging the other day by one of our WS posters. Stoneferry is Scott Heider's street.

Nancy was left at a place off Holly Springs Rd., a few miles from Brad's home. Nowhere related to Lake J.

Thanks ncnative - yeah, I understood all that. It was RC's post below that seemed to be trying to tie the two together that I wasn't following:

Nothing really except that (LJ) is a good distance from Wallsburg Court, and lots of major intersections to cross if he ran from Wallsburg to that area.
What would keep him from crossing Holly Springs during one of his runs ? Even though the area where Nancy was found is considered remote, I'm not inclined to think Brad was unaware of the area. JMO.

RC has responded that his point was basically since BC was seen jogging (regardless of location) that in the past, he may very well have jogged to the discovery site. [ Which is a fair point I suppose - though, in my mind, the recent LJ observation doesn't make it any more or less likely that he pre-knew about the discovery site ] No big deal - sorry if I mis-understood though.

 

[SleuthyGal]

I was gonna pass some of these

out on the "other" thread but decided I didn't want to run the risk of getting my head gnawed off........sheesh.

Slinking back off into the shadow of my cow's lips :crazy:

Noooo...don't slink away! Bring lotsa pills! Everyone can have some...they're free! :blowkiss:

 

[jumpstreet]

The search warrant is for things on the phone other than calls. IMO, LE is cleaning up the case.

So you think the recent SW to unlock the phone, and re-obtain personal address books are routine "clean-up", vs some recent discovery/lead which is resulting in them wanting to look for specific information here?

I would have thought LE would have wanted to unlock the phone (to access history of text messages, recent contacts, etc) from day-1. [ Not so much for the phone records, just in terms of determining recent habits/connections/interactions of the deceased ].

I guess I found it somewhat surprising they didn't do this initially (but you're right - maybe they felt (at the time) that there couldn't possibly be anything of interest within the phone that might help).