Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #3

[calidreamin]

Google search. After reading the discussions and knowing a few things pertaining to this case I wanted to join in. The welcome I received and the members have been great.....

Your sweet mom and we are glad to have you and all the other new members too. I hope you stick around.

 

[wherego]

You said....

By the way, if I was ever in need of a fair Jury...I would hope it was filled with WSers! They look at every piece of evidence and do weigh all the options. They are intelligent and very thorough at what they do.

I respectfully have to disagree with that, from what I have seen here in the past 3 days from the vast majority of posters, they found Brad Cooper guilty long before Nancy's body was even found. They will not even begin to look at any other evidence if there was any. I feel they look at some really crazy things as evidence. They look at him getting a lawyer as evidence. If LE was searching my home, my cars, my body for DNA, I would be getting a lawyer to, and I about guarantee that you would also, even though you or I were 100% innocent. Also, his not attending Press Confrences-I don't see this as a sign of guilt either. He owes nothing to the public as long as he is co-operating with police. I think this depends on the individual some peole are just more private than others.

Let me say I am not defending him, the evidence does seem to be stacking up against him, but if you are not looking in any other direction for eveidence it would. What I am tyrying to say about jurors, is that they could not have the closed mind I have found here.

 

[Jovin]

say

to all of you new posters who so kindly answered my question.

 

[RoseRed]

Has their ever been another case with this much circumstantial evidence pointing to a spouse that the spouse was not the guilty party ?

Don't most murderers hide the body if they are known to the victim ? Random murder by unknown leaves the victim in plain site ?

 

[close_enough]

close_enough: I'm not living there currently, but I'm one of the few middle-aged folks who can say that they're a Cary native. My parents, a brother and a sister live within a couple of miles of Lochmere and whenever we're in town, my kids play in one of the neighborhood parks and we shop at that Harris-Teeter. So that's why I've been interested in this case and have watched all of the news conferences across the web and from across the country.

As for how I found this site, it was a Google that I did on their names, plus maybe "Wallsburg" and definitely the word "bleach", literally within minutes of hearing the CBC reporter ask the question. (Though, I have ran across this site before, but that's what brought me here this time and what prompted me to actually register at this juncture)

just wild when something like this happens so "close to home", you know?....shopping at the same Harris Teeter & all....you just never know......glad you actually registered

 

[dallas24]

You said....

By the way, if I was ever in need of a fair Jury...I would hope it was filled with WSers! They look at every piece of evidence and do weigh all the options. They are intelligent and very thorough at what they do.

I respectfully have to disagree with that, from what I have seen here in the past 3 days from the vast majority of posters, they found Brad Reynolds guilty long before Nancy's body was even found. They will not even begin to look at any other evidence if there was any. I feel they look at some really crazy things as evidence. They look at him getting a lawyer as evidence. If LE was searching my home, my cars, my body for DNA, I would be getting a lawyer to, and I about guarantee that you would also, even though you or I were 100% innocent. Also, his not attending Press Confrences-I don't see this as a sign of guilt either. He owes nothing to the public as long as he is co-operating with police. I think this depends on the individual some peole are just more private than others.

Let me say I am not defending him, the evidence does seem to be stacking up against him, but if you are not looking in any other direction for eveidence it would. What I am tyrying to say about jurors, is that they could not have the closed mind I have found here.

I have to respectfully disagree with you, I have been reading these boards quite a while now and seldom post but I can assure you these regular posters on WS are very intelligent, dillegent and are darn good at gathering facts and presenting them on here. While I do disagree with some of them on different cases, they are by far the best group of sleuths online.

 

[petra]

Your sweet mom and we are glad to have you and all the other new members too. I hope you stick around.

I agree. A warm welcome to all new members.
My first post on this case, and I am just jumping in although I have been reading and reading to catch up.

I looked at Mr Cooper's blog....previously linked by some kind posters.

It sounds like he really touted the ironman competitions.
Sounds like a busy man--father of two todlers, full time job, MBA part time graduating Dec '07..and began training again to compete by biking 5-6 hrs a day, swimming,etc. ( and alleged extra marital affairs)
I am exhausted just thinking about it!

Does anyone know if he was planning to compete at the Lake Placid (IIRC) ironman contest this 20 July.? Sounds like from his blog that he missed the 2007 event.

Thanks.

 

[raisincharlie]

My husband is frequently called upon to be an expert witness in court trials, sometimes for the plaintiff and sometimes for the defendant. No matter what side he is requested by, I always discuss the case with him and argue against his opinions (Partly to be annoying, and partly to prepare him for what the opposing attorney might question him on). So, I thought I would do the same here and play devil's advocate since EVERYONE seems to have tried, convicted and placed on death row the prime suspect in this case.

<snip for space>

Those are just a few of the possibilities I would argue, even though it looks pretty bad for Brad right now. However, I also find it hard to believe the rumor about the detergent with bleach. It seems unlikely that a teenage store employee would be randomly invited into the police viewing of the security tapes, and then allowed to go out and discuss that evidence with whomever they choose. Extremely questionable police work if this really happened, and all else points to LE being very cautious and responsible about letting information out on this case.

Hello Raeann,

Good list of potential suspects, all plausible and I'm quite sure a list LE has concluded as well, at least I hope so. As you are aware obviously, police protocol always starts with those closest to the victim and those known to have been the last to see the victim. At this point in time I suspect LE has talked with many people, including those at the party the night before, the friend who reported her missing, her closest friends, and close neighbors.

As to number 1 - the elusive, perhaps invented Carrie. I would ask why LE has not made a plea for this person to immediately come forward ? I have not heard LE make this request nor have the local media outlets. So one has to question why this has not happened. Either LE knows who this is and if they are real or not and/or have had contact with this person or there was something observed or said that automatically ruled out this possibility.

On what has been said so far, all we really can assume is LE has some strong indication as to who may or may not be involved as they have clearly indicated this was not a random act. Any one of your other potential suspects could be involved in a non-random murder. The simple fact that LE has termed it non-random and isolated is because they have a list of potential suspects - there can be no other reason unless the intent is to intentionally mislead the public. LE has been through the Cooper home and had conducted a cursory look. For some reason LE decided to obtain a search warrant to do detailed searching of the home and a collection of forensics related to the husband. We also know that at least 6 bags of evidence have been removed from the residence as reported by several local media outlets. LE has unequivocally stated that Brad has cooperated - surely if Nancy had extra marital affairs Brad would have told them by this time since he was cooperative yes? Also if he is cooperating he would have confessed his affairs as well. So the list of potentials should be in LE's hands. Yet we have seen no reference, no other search warrants, and no indications as of yet to indicate where LE is headed - so far they seem content to focus on the home, vehicles, and the husband. Yes the husband has lawyered up, granted that is certainly his right, but if there is someone else at the top of LE's list, why would he feel inclined to lawyer up?

If the friend who reported her missing knew of such affairs or a problem with a runner surely that would have also been reported, unless of course Nancy never mentioned such things. I submit that the friend who contacted LE to report Nancy missing, must have had some very good reasons for taking it upon herself to make this claim and carry it out. Assuming she had such reasons for injecting herself into that situation, she would have had names for LE to work with if such persons exist. It seems very odd that a person would take it upon themselves to make a potentially false report to LE without having a reason to believe it is true. It also makes very little sense that the person reporting her missing didn't even live in the same home. It seems very obvious that Ms. Adams was aware of some situation which caused her great alarm and concern for Nancy's safety, or maybe she is a huge risk taker by making this report. Why didn't the husband make this report by the way ?

Keeping that in mind, where are the other search warrants for all these potential suspects. I entertain the idea that something or someone has provided enough information to significant narrow their search for suspects. If one suspect had a higher potential than others they would start there, they could also serve and execute several warrants at various locations if the field of suspects is wide open.

Additionally, Brad himself told LE he had gone to the store. A trip to the store is innocent enough, however LE in this case does not wish to comment about that particular aspect. Were it not true, I think LE would be obligated to say it was not true and just rumor, instead they have taken the no comment route with respect to this issue. Typically LE uses that to cover aspects they do not want public or aspects that are evidentiary rather than reserving it for rumors. So the store issue in my mind is not just a rumor. To add, this is not the first time a video tape of someone has come to the front, and it is not the first time a person working where the video was recorded has spoken about it. Constitutional rights are still in effect as far as I know and since Mr. Cooper admitted himself to being there, why supress it ? How do you know that the employ who viewed the tape wasn;t working at the time the event occurred may I ask ? The video tape and receipts will speak for themselves.

Just a few thoughts.

 

[momto3kids]

I understand WTVD stated it was HT and location Brad shopped, but can't find it. The media has contacted me and asked about HT, but I have absolutely refused to disclose what type of store and location. There are so many types of places open 24 hrs around our home.

 

[calidreamin]

I understand WTVD stated it was HT and location Brad shopped, but can't find it. The media has contacted me and asked about HT, but I have absolutely refused to disclose what type of store and location. There are so many types of places open 24 hrs around our home.

Good to know mom thank you for filling us in.

 

[nanandjim]

interesting....you're not the only one that thinks this either, Bee..another person here thinks she was probably unclothed....

I'll weigh in. I bet that he put her jogging clothes on her. He was trying to stage the "she went jogging" scenario.

 

[calidreamin]

I'll weigh in. I bet that he put her jogging clothes on her. He was trying to stage the "she went jogging" scenario.

I agree with you Nan, he wouldn't have been able to stage the jogging scenario withought putting on her running clothes and sneakers.

 

[petra]

Has their ever been another case with this much circumstantial evidence pointing to a spouse that the spouse was not the guilty party ?

Don't most murderers hide the body if they are known to the victim ? Random murder by unknown leaves the victim in plain site ?

Good question...I have to think really hard about this.

I remember a case, I believe in December '06 in the NW USA, husband and wife chiropractors with a small toddler. Wife disappered from office, yogurt from lunch left out, keys in office door,etc discovered by husband who was out buying a christmas tree.

Search went on for several days, perhaps a week , and she was found in an abandoned house with pills and gun. Ruled suicide.
So much evidence, questions early on about hubby's involvement.
I believe her name was Melissa, but cannnot remember her last name.
So sad....

Does anyone remember this?

 

[swimmom]

Who would have access to seeing the body or any of the autopsy results? Anyone other than the police? Any family or very close friends? I have heard information second hand from people who were with her on Friday, and I question if they could really have known anything about the condition of the body.

 

[RR0004]

Welcome Raeann!! I am sorry the regular members have ignored your post and not welcomed you to the board. They have welcomed several members who are not bringing up sensible questions, but validating their existing opinions. I've been reading here for several days and really wish for a more balanced discussion as you are propossing. I would really hope at least that most of these posters would disqualify themselves from ever being on a jury of any case they had ever heard anything about at all.

This is a great place to get news links and some info from locals though.

You brought up some great questions and I will try and discuss them later.
I have difficulty typing, and very slow.

Wherego...thank you for reposting raeann. As the threads have gotten very active...and long...it's not easy playing 'catch up" especially if you're actively involved in more than one thread on WS. We eventually get around discussing EVERYTHING..but I'm glad you did take the time to address Raeann. They are very valid points. I'm coming on now after trying to make it through the threads that began a few days ago here. I've almost about given up! One thing, though, that I haven't noticed is any mention of another woman being involved here with her disappearance. The man leaves his children asleep alone in the house to go to the store...the man goes out and dumps the body, again leaving the kids alone in the house? Just thinking maybe he had a helper there. A woman could be behind the outfitting of poor Nancy. Now, if all this HAS been discussed...please forgive me for bringing it up again.

And a HUGE welcome to one and all newcomers!!!

 

[close_enough]

posted by raisincharlie

Keeping that in mind, where are the other search warrants for all these potential suspects. I entertain the idea that something or someone has provided enough information to significant narrow their search for suspects. If one suspect had a higher potential than others they would start there, they could also serve and execute several warrants at various locations if the field of suspects is wide open

good point, RC....

 

[calidreamin]

Good question...I have to think really hard about this.

I remember a case, I believe in December '06 in the NW USA, husband and wife chiropractors with a small toddler. Wife disappered from office, yogurt from lunch left out, keys in office door,etc discovered by husband who was out buying a christmas tree.

Search went on for several days, perhaps a week , and she was found in an abandoned house with pills and gun. Ruled suicide.
So much evidence, questions early on about hubby's involvement.
I believe her name was Melissa, but cannnot remember her last name.
So sad....

Does anyone remember this?

I saw this on 20/20 I believe! I think it happend in texas, Houston maybe. Her name was Melissa. I had alot of questions about hubbies involvement when I was watching it.

 

[close_enough]

I usually just read because I get into too much trouble if I post because I'm a smiley kind of a poster.

This case is so sad. I look at those two little girls and wonder how he could do that to their Mom...IF he did!

lol, you & your smilies

 

[raisincharlie]

Who would have access to seeing the body or any of the autopsy results? Anyone other than the police? Any family or very close friends? I have heard information second hand from people who were with her on Friday, and I question if they could really have known anything about the condition of the body.

I would think the only persons aware of the condition of Nancy's body would be LE and the individual who found her body. From following the Michelle Young case - it took over three months for the autopsy report to become published.

FWIW - you can make an appointment with the coroners office in Chapel Hill to review the report at their office - however this is allowed only after the report has become public and is not limited to family members only.

 

[close_enough]

Can someone snip a post from here like that and not give credit without permission from WS?

that's a good question....imo