Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #4

[jilly]

So she goes to the party Fri. Night, and I bet he sits and home and does some drinking and she does the same at the party, get home and a fight starts. It gets out of hand and boom she is dead. Now drunken husband panics and starts thinking of what to do. 1.Clean up scene, damn no bleach!! Goes and gets some. 2.Story! Let's see, she was out running early this am and never came back....sounds good. 3.Need to get her dressed and dump her somehwhere where there will be no one around. 4.End of the road by the pond, that he has surely run by, at some point, being a triathlete. 5. Get home clean himself up and go to bed (wow if he really went to bed after that what a psycho).

Now the police find the body.....let's see Columbo says look at they way the shoes are tied, if it is backwards, someone else did the tying. Blood work up....if she was out jogging her lactic acid levels would be elevated as well as endorphines (which is really why we all run anyway). If this is the case, he is screwed!! Surely being an athlete himself he should have known these things. He does have a masters degree.

My 2 pennies...........

Wow! I had no idea about lactic acid levels and endorphines - I only ran to lose weight!:crazy: Thanks for your input and welcome!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Cyberpro~ Welcome to WS! Very interesting perspective from the IT point of view. Thanks!

I don't think it is unusual to go to the store in the middle of night for some people. People also work shift work and do their shopping at odd hours.

It does seem unusual for a person to go to the store and buy any type of cleaning product at that hour without buying other normal things for the home such as toilet paper and paper towels which you would expect to be on the "grocery list". Even more unusual is to then to have their wife found to be missing. 2 + 2 = 4. Speaking of 4, if he also told LE that it was two hours later when he went on his "shopping spree"...he has a huge problem with his timeline.

 

[SuziQ]

Allegedly.

Maybe someone can help out? Didn't the location get reported by a station? I would safely assume that Brad did in fact go to the store. And LE isn't denying it and they've addressed other rumors. If this is one, why not just say this is a rumor as well?

 

[Tia]

I live right next to Cary, and this whole case has just hit a little too close to home...in many ways. Nancy was a member at my gym, she was my age, she ran outdoors, she's a sahm etc. My heart is very saddened by all of this. I have read all of the posts (back to the first thread), and find that I can't stop. I'm glad that I found this site.

So weird...my husband just stopped at the store on the way home this evening to get something for my son and I greeted him with, "You just went to the store where Brad Cooper got his cleaning supplies." Makes my stomach hurt.

I am convinced that he did it, and have been from the beginning. First 2 give- aways...that he said that she went running with a friend (and didn't), and that he hadn't called anyone with concern when she didn't return as planned. I know my husband would be looking for me (marital problems or not), just to get some help with the kids!

It is just so eery to think about how close this all took place. Did Brad run next to me on a treadmill? Did I look in a killer's eyes? Sorry to be so dramatic, but this is still so fresh. My neighbor's daughter was in preschool with Bella. She only knew Nancy in a casual greeting exchange kind of way. She joined in on the search over the weekend.

Just wanted to thank you all for the insight, and opinions you have offered. I hope that they make an arrest very soon, and I hope the girls are safe.

You make an EXCELLENT point about the kids! You are SO RIGHT! Marital problems or not, I know my husband would be anxious to be "off duty" and would be wondering where I was.

On the other hand, maybe, if they were having marital problems, it was his day with the kids so he wasn't expecting to be relieved of his duties until a certain time. It is possible (though I doubt it) that during this difficult time in their marriage, they worked on shifts ie: she had so many hours of "free time" then she took over and he was "off" so to speak. So maybe he wouldn't have been concerned until the designated time when his shift was over and she didn't show up.

BUT, according to friends, she drove to the spot where she jogs so that kind of blows the second scenario out of the water. If he knew her routine, and he didn't do it, seeing her car in the driveway should have tipped him off.

 

[allboys]

So here's the thing I just don't get with these guys...assuming that Brad did kill his wife, and assuming it was NOT premeditated. Instead of removing the body, why not call the police, explain that there was an argument...some rage...an accident. (Even if it was accidentally striking her with a heavy object). Wouldn't he rather admit his wrong doing, have a lesser sentence for involuntary manslaughter, than put up this front for the press and family/friends, only to be put in jail for life anyway?????? I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I just wonder why they always opt for hiding the body?
I'm sure he wasn't thinking clearly...but still, think of your daughters!!! I also really wonder if they heard anything. I'm assuming the 4 year old has been interviewed by police. Sorry for the ramble. I guess its just hard to understand a psycho, when you aren't one. Although, now my husband thinks I am, because I'm newly obsessed with this site.

 

[luckyme]

Maybe someone can help out? Didn't the location get reported by a station? I would safely assume that Brad did in fact go to the store. And LE isn't denying it and they've addressed other rumors. If this is one, why not just say this is a rumor as well?

Because they said no comment! which tells you its there! she looked very suprised when asked the question. jmo jmo jmo

 

[jilly]

I live right next to Cary, and this whole case has just hit a little too close to home...in many ways. Nancy was a member at my gym, she was my age, she ran outdoors, she's a sahm etc. My heart is very saddened by all of this. I have read all of the posts (back to the first thread), and find that I can't stop. I'm glad that I found this site.

So weird...my husband just stopped at the store on the way home this evening to get something for my son and I greeted him with, "You just went to the store where Brad Cooper got his cleaning supplies." Makes my stomach hurt.

I am convinced that he did it, and have been from the beginning. First 2 give- aways...that he said that she went running with a friend (and didn't), and that he hadn't called anyone with concern when she didn't return as planned. I know my husband would be looking for me (marital problems or not), just to get some help with the kids!

It is just so eery to think about how close this all took place. Did Brad run next to me on a treadmill? Did I look in a killer's eyes? Sorry to be so dramatic, but this is still so fresh. My neighbor's daughter was in preschool with Bella. She only knew Nancy in a casual greeting exchange kind of way. She joined in on the search over the weekend.

Just wanted to thank you all for the insight, and opinions you have offered. I hope that they make an arrest very soon, and I hope the girls are safe.

Welcome allboys! I can understand how this must be affecting you. I, myself got a funny feeling just because I used to live in Edmonton and am familiar with Sherwood Park where Nancy is from and my daughter went to the U of Calgary. This pales in comparison to your circumstances but I know what you mean!

 

[MoonFlwr]

Maybe someone can help out? Didn't the location get reported by a station? I would safely assume that Brad did in fact go to the store. And LE isn't denying it and they've addressed other rumors. If this is one, why not just say this is a rumor as well?

None of my posts have been to do with the location of the store OR whether or not Brad went to the store.

My posts have been about what was stated in the original post on WS about this.
The poster said that she knows Brad was taped on videotape buying things at the store at 4 am. (She knows a store-worker, but I am not repeating how she knows the worker as she has expressed some concerns about that, since she posted it).

The question I and a few others asked when this was first mentioned on here, was, "How do we know what Brad told LE?"
That is still my question.
(Nothing to do with the location of the store!)

 

[tarheelfan78]

IMO .... If BC did buy cleaning solution just because they were out, wouldn't that be something that would still be in the house. Maybe that is one of the things the investigator s would be trying to locate in the house. Also judging from the shock on Bazemore's face when the Canadian reporter mention the 4am trip and the bleach maybe they knew about it and did not want BC to know that they knew.
Just speculating..... and trying to avoid writing a paper

 

[SuziQ]

Because they said no comment! which tells you its there! she looked very suprised when asked the question. jmo jmo jmo

IIRC, Taxi posted that while the Chief/Captain was doing that in the second presser, Nancy's dad was knodding yes?

 

[close_enough]

Maybe someone can help out? Didn't the location get reported by a station? I would safely assume that Brad did in fact go to the store. And LE isn't denying it and they've addressed other rumors. If this is one, why not just say this is a rumor as well?

not sure, but i don't think so....one was listed a little over a mile away, & i can't, for the life of me, remember the address that was posted....

 

[CyberPro]

I think the point is he bought cleaning products at 4am. But told LE he bought milk and bread at 6am.

I dunno what the possible problems could be with this. Bleach, Bread, Milk... I get those confused all the time :waitasec: no wonder my sandwiches taste funny....

IIRC, [DELETED/CENSORED BY POSTER DUE TO SECURITY CONCERNS ON THE PART OF THE ORIGINAL POSTER] and the purchase was a single item at approximately 4AM, not bread and milk at 6AM. Two hour time difference, and a huge difference in the items. Hard to explain that, if it is true. Now, thinking back on the movie "Rear Window" when the detective tells Jimmy Stewart that he is spending a lot of time looking at the private lives of people, and if you think back on it, you might be aware that you have done suspicious looking things, even when they were innocent. I remember thinking after the Jeffrey Dahmer case that it would probably seem strange to his neighbors hearing a power saw running after midnight... then some months afterward realizing that I was running MY power saw in my garage about 2AM. Suspicious actions alone do not prove guilt, but the LE would not be doing a good job if they did not look into this. I can see how BC might have room to wiggle some, but I am not sure about 2 hours worth by claiming confusion about the time of the trip to the store because he was distraught about his missing wife, but confusing detergent with bread? That is harder to swallow (pun intended )

CyberPro

 

[panthera]

So here's the thing I just don't get with these guys...assuming that Brad did kill his wife, and assuming it was NOT premeditated. Instead of removing the body, why not call the police, explain that there was an argument...some rage...an accident. (Even if it was accidentally striking her with a heavy object). Wouldn't he rather admit his wrong doing, have a lesser sentence for involuntary manslaughter, than put up this front for the press and family/friends, only to be put in jail for life anyway?????? I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I just wonder why they always opt for hiding the body?
I'm sure he wasn't thinking clearly...but still, think of your daughters!!! I also really wonder if they heard anything. I'm assuming the 4 year old has been interviewed by police. Sorry for the ramble. I guess its just hard to understand a psycho, when you aren't one. Although, now my husband thinks I am, because I'm newly obsessed with this site.

I can't figure out why they kill in the first place, let alone why not admit to it. But another thing I can't figure out, is why just dump her body in the open and not attempt to bury it so she wouldn't be found, or at least not right away? It seems the only reason Drew Peterson hasn't been arrested for Stacy's murder is because she hasn't been found, so following along those lines, it doesn't make sense to leave her as she was found. Obviously since he was at home (unlike Jason Young) he couldn't leave her at the house and claim an intruder did it, so there really wasn't much choice, assuming he killed her, but to dispose of her somewhere else.

 

[Blink34]

Had an interesting chat with the local neighbors this evening. A few thoughts to throw out...food for thought.

Brad seems to be quite arrogant. Is it possible she came home from the party and found him home with someone?

Some rumors state he was having an affair with her best friend. Her best friend's husband was heading up the search. Did anyone find it interesting HE was heading up the search and not Brad?

IF he did this could his fear have been that she was going to take the girls back to Canada where her family is and he would have never seen them again? Could that have been his motive? It seems he didn't like to loose.

Welcome Buttabsy-
Regarding the rumor Mill- you say that her best friend's husband organized the search, and BC was having an affair with this woman- Is it your opinion from the chat that the hubby is/was unaware?

Am I wrong or did I read in my sleep deprived delirium that a search warrant was executed on said woman's home and cell phone records- who is she, if it is not sealed, it's public record.

 

[Aimee729]

So here's the thing I just don't get with these guys...assuming that Brad did kill his wife, and assuming it was NOT premeditated. Instead of removing the body, why not call the police, explain that there was an argument...some rage...an accident. (Even if it was accidentally striking her with a heavy object). Wouldn't he rather admit his wrong doing, have a lesser sentence for involuntary manslaughter, than put up this front for the press and family/friends, only to be put in jail for life anyway?????? I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I just wonder why they always opt for hiding the body?
I'm sure he wasn't thinking clearly...but still, think of your daughters!!! I also really wonder if they heard anything. I'm assuming the 4 year old has been interviewed by police. Sorry for the ramble. I guess its just hard to understand a psycho, when you aren't one. Although, now my husband thinks I am, because I'm newly obsessed with this site.

I think it's like the little boy who broke the lamp- maybe some kids would confess their "accident", while others would "hide the evidence" to try and shirk the blame. I think he murdered her in the heat of the moment then freaked-and having watched too many crime shows on TV, made up an elaborate story and tried to cover his tracks. Remember O.J.?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Because they said no comment! which tells you its there! she looked very suprised when asked the question. jmo jmo jmo

If you watch really close...you can see the Chief literally gulp. If it was an unsubstantiated rumor...as they said on NG earlier..."We don't know anything about that." would be the normal response and would have been an indicator. When she said they could not confirm or deny it and mentioned the ongoing investigation...it says to me that she does know.

 

[SuziQ]

None of my posts have been to do with the location of the store OR whether or not Brad went to the store.

My posts have been about what was stated in the original post on WS about this.
The poster said that she knows Brad was taped on videotape buying things at the store at 4 am. (She knows a store-worker, but I am not repeating how she knows the worker as she has expressed some concerns about that, since she posted it).

The question I and a few others asked when this was first mentioned on here, was, "How do we know what Brad told LE?"
That is still my question.
(Nothing to do with the location of the store!)

I apologize for the misunderstanding then. I must have missed that question? I remember it asked days ago, but I didn't know you were asking it tonight.

 

[Blink34]

I can't figure out why they kill in the first place, let alone why not admit to it. But another thing I can't figure out, is why just dump her body in the open and not attempt to bury it so she wouldn't be found, or at least not right away? It seems the only reason Drew Peterson hasn't been arrested for Stacy's murder is because she hasn't been found, so following along those lines, it doesn't make sense to leave her as she was found. Obviously since he was at home (unlike Jason Young) he couldn't leave her at the house and claim an intruder did it, so there really wasn't much choice, assuming he killed her, but to dispose of her somewhere else.

No time. Spent the time on cleaning up the house and car as he had his story worked out. Judgement call or a narcissist, imo.

 

[MoonFlwr]

I can't figure out why they kill in the first place, let alone why not admit to it. But another thing I can't figure out, is why just dump her body in the open and not attempt to bury it so she wouldn't be found, or at least not right away? It seems the only reason Drew Peterson hasn't been arrested for Stacy's murder is because she hasn't been found, so following along those lines, it doesn't make sense to leave her as she was found. Obviously since he was at home (unlike Jason Young) he couldn't leave her at the house and claim an intruder did it, so there really wasn't much choice, assuming he killed her, but to dispose of her somewhere else.

Good question! (Why dump the body in the open).

 

[Blink34]

I apologize for the misunderstanding then. I must have missed that question? I remember it asked days ago, but I didn't know you were asking it tonight.

The first time I read that to my best recollection was from M3 post. I think what is not clear is whether LE confronted him and he admitted the trip, or if he offered it due to his concern he was either seen or the cams, my guess.