Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #5

[RR0004]

Home possible crime scene, husband barred. I hadn't heard that yet...just on NG.

A few posts back, Christine.

 

[Taximom]

You want to know why, I'll tell you why. If 200 people here can express their opinion but I can't, the word dictatorship comes to mind.

Dearest wherego, if someone told you that you weren't allowed to express your opinion here then you need to let a mod or admin know who. I haven't read anything like that directed to you on the public threads.

I am just trying to see what perhaps could be be an innocent person tried in the media and on an internet board. I have been on other boards on the internet and thankfully NONE are like this.

Many of us are thankful our board isn't like other boards as well.

I have never in my entire life seen a group so into validating and running up the number of post on the boards.

I'm pretty sure I can speak for most of my fellow WS'ers that the last thing we are interested in is "post count". Actually, there's a countdown thread here that would probably be much more beneficial to those that just want to run up the number of posts here. (No offense to our counters, of course.)

Before I close, I want to go back to yesterday's point I was trying to make about serving on a jury.

To serve on a jury you must enter into the proceeding without having formed an opinion regarding guilt or innocence and that you decide the case based solely on an objective and unemotional examination of the evidence presented at trial.

With that said I would like to ask how many of you are going to disqualify you from being on that jury instead of saying that websleuthers would be great jurors.

I would LOVE to be on any jury and if I could be on this jury I certainly would set aside any pre-conceived notions I have about Bradley Cooper. Although I'd probably be kicked off in voir dire.

Based on what I have seen here the statement "websleuthers would be great jurors is a very scary statement indeed". I'll go one step farther and say the scariest statement I have heard in a long time.

I honestly think that statement is made because we are interested in looking at every possible detail and jurors should be the same way. Sure, we'd like for him to be innocent. Heck. Maybe he is. The information right now available from the media leads ME to think he's mighty guilty. It's my opinion though, just like you have yours.

Just My Honest Opinion and I hope this is still America

Last I checked, it is the good ol' USA and I'm not sitting on Brad Cooper's jury. I hope you continue to share your opinion here. We need a devil's advocate to keep us on our toes! (I hope you aren't offended by that.)

 

[CyberPro]

OK,

I am now caught up with all of the posting on this topic. I do not expect that this will remain the case for long

I wanted to clarify and make a few minor corrections from all of the previous posts that others have made. If these do not make sense to you, it does not really matter, since you did not read the posts that the corrections are intended for:

1. Cary and Raleigh are in WAKE county, not Wade.

2. Link to a WRAL discussion about the sudden departure of the Chief of the CARY PD was outdated, the current chief has been in office for some months. The way the post read, it sounded like it had something to do with the current situation.

3. Mike Nifong was the former DA of Durham County, not Wake. (IMO, I do not know how he ever got into that position, if all of this judgements were similar to the idiocy that came out in the Lacrosse case)

4. I have not been in the situation, but have worked around a family lawyer for some years. I think when a marital dissolution is at hand, the person leaving the domicile is at some risk of having "abandoned" the family, which has negitive repercussions on the case for finances.

5. While I am sure LE knows all about the PostMortem, it will be a few days before the official report. I suspect there will be an arrest shortly thereafter.

6. There has been some talk on here of state of dress, or lack thereof when Nancy was located. This is problematic IMO, if he says he sent her out with a certain outfit, but in reality she was not dressed in this manner, and someone that she runs with regularly can testify that she owns those things, like light blue running shoes, for example... what do you do with that stuff? If LE finds the shoes that you say she was wearing still in the house, it does not bode well for you.

7. Re-Fi of property. It is possible that BC had a Power of Attorney. While my wife and I have them on each other, in NC, a spouse is considered to have an unofficial POA on the other spouse, but I am sure it is somehow limited in scope. That is why ours are official.

On a different note, can you imagine BC's reaction when the load of cops pulls up to the place he is staying now to take custody of the kids? He probably thought they were there to escort him to his new apartment! Hope he still had some of those cleaning supplies left over :rolling:

CyberPro

 

[panthera]

Nancy Grace covering the case.

I'm watching!

 

[PrayersForMaura]

A man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home Monday night.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3220350/

so was it ever said she was partially nude?

 

[Blink34]

Just wanted to repost for newbies Chat is empty right now...come on in if y'all want to talk real time about this case.

Tell everybody we are talking about them and they will come

 

[christine2448]

Tell everybody we are talking about them and they will come

We are too! Me, you and Nancy Grace! :blowkiss:

 

[jilly]

Jilly,

I don't think so. I had to go to Nova Scotia for work early this spring, and had to put a MAJOR rush on getting a passport. At that point in time, you could still drive across the border, which had me planning all kinds of strange combinations of flying and driving to get to Calgary, which I avoided having to go there. At any rate, I got my documentation in time, but the allowance for using other ID at the border was supposed to end at the end of the month that I visited. It is possible it was extended again.

CyberPro

Yes it was extended. I think that happened this past January....not sure. You can still use your dl or bc.
You do need a passport now for travelling by air or sea.

I live near the border and frequently drive across to shop. I have a Nexus card. That way I get to zoom through in the express lane instead of having to wait in the 2-3 hr line-ups.
This Nexus card applies to land, sea and air travel. As well as giving my fingerprints they took a photograph of my irises. When travelling by air, when you land, instead of going in the long lineup for customs, they have a special Nexus kiosk and you check in there with your irises I haven't tried it yet - kind of nervous!:crazy:

 

[raisincharlie]

A man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home Monday night.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3220350/

so was it ever said she was partially nude?

PM,

I've read most of the articles and watched most of the videos, and to my recollection this particular reference at WRAL is the first mention relating to the presence or absence of clothing on Nancy when she was found. LE has simply refused to comment of this issue at all.

I certainly cannot claim to have read or seen everything so bear in mind I could be wrong.

 

[panthera]

A man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home Monday night.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3220350/

so was it ever said she was partially nude?

I never heard that, but the article seems to be describing something other than what Brad says she was wearing. I wonder, if that's true, if LE found the clothes she was supposed to be wearing in the house? It's sure beginning to look like deja vu Scott P..

 

[MoonFlwr]

I was happily reading through all the posts and suddenly got a msg that the server was too busy and to try again later. :chicken:

I started showing immediate signs of withdrawal! lol! Thank goodness it didn't last too long!

(Funny thing is...I got one of the things on my never-ending To Do List done, during that time! )

 

[CyberPro]

Yes it was extended. I think that happened this past January....not sure. You can still use your dl or bc.
You do need a passport now for travelling by air or sea.

<SNIP>

Jilly,

Sorry, I stand corrected. I live in NC, but had two instances of business that were calling me to Canada earlier this year. After those were over, I have not kept up with the times...

CyberPro

 

[Taximom]

I was happily reading through all the posts and suddenly got a msg that the server was too busy and to try again later. :chicken:

I started showing immediate signs of withdrawal! lol! Thank goodness it didn't last too long!

(Funny thing is...I got one of the things on my never-ending To Do List done, during that time! )

Omgosh, me too! I don't understand still with all the recent upgrades etc why the board can't handle a larger load. I think someone mentioned email notifications to subscribed threads, but there must be a fix for all of us that want to stay up to date on these crime threads!!!

 

[Callistolee]

A man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home Monday night.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3220350/

so was it ever said she was partially nude?

On the WRAL 6 pm news update story, Amanda Lamb used the phrase "her partially clothed body". That was the first I had heard reference to her state of dress. Sorry, I saw it on live TV and do not have a link.

 

[panthera]

I was happily reading through all the posts and suddenly got a msg that the server was too busy and to try again later. :chicken:

I started showing immediate signs of withdrawal! lol! Thank goodness it didn't last too long!

(Funny thing is...I got one of the things on my never-ending To Do List done, during that time! )

I got that message too! I think there was something like 136 people viewing the forum at the time.

 

[petra]

Yes it was extended. I think that happened this past January....not sure. You can still use your dl or bc.
You do need a passport now for travelling by air or sea.

I live near the border and frequently drive across to shop. I have a Nexus card. That way I get to zoom through in the express lane instead of having to wait in the 2-3 hr line-ups.
This Nexus card applies to land, sea and air travel. As well as giving my fingerprints they took a photograph of my irises. When travelling by air, when you land, instead of going in the long lineup for customs, they have a special Nexus kiosk and you check in there with your irises I haven't tried it yet - kind of nervous!:crazy:

Yes, law was originally to be in place Jan 2008, extended to Jan 2009.
I believe the children would be dual citizens-American by birth (if indeed born there) and Canadian by parent's nationality.
Minor children, if not traveling with both parents (passport and birth certificate shown) to most countries would need permission from the parent not traveling with them. Notarized form given permission for minors going to Canada with only one canadian parent.

http://wiki.lawdepot.com/wiki/Child_Travel_Consent_Form_FAQ_-_United_States

http://www.explore.canada.travel/ctc/ke/things_to_know_2.jsp?cat=4004&localeId=16#Q2

I have traveled with our minor children to many a country, as well as my hubby(dad) taking them abroad alone...and it is an absolute nightmare with the paperwork especially when all in our family have multi-citizenships from different countries!

 

[maconrich]

Hi! I just read this article http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3220350/ and found a couple of things interesting ~ the first one ~
A man walking his dog found her body, wearing little clothing, in an undeveloped subdivision less than three miles from her home Monday night.

Would a t-shirt, jogging shorts, socks & shoes be thought of as &quot;little clothing&quot; or was Nancy not found in what Brad described?

The second thing is the details of the marriage, him taking her passport and not giving her money for groceries. It makes him sound totally dominating and at the least, emotionally abusive. No wonder Nancy seemed &quot;tired&quot; and not feeling well at the party Friday night. It's also very easy now to see him as the one who killed her, imo.

hmmmmm.... with the clothing I'm thinking they could call the outfit he described that way - or maybe they found some of it removed but maybe nearby?? He was so specific on what she was supposed to have been wearing that (if he did this) I'd think he made sure that's what she had on (or that the clothes were nearby).

With the rest, ICAM, and imoho he was, at the very least, being an emotionally abusive sob -- and it's terrible to realize she and the babies had to go through so much the last few months It literally makes me sick to my stomach, and it absolutely makes it easier (for me) to believe he killed her -- and maybe not in the heat of an argument. And for sure it helps explain why she was tired and not feeling well!!

I'm getting the feeling that this is just the tip of the iceberg and that the details are going to be very, very ugly when they come out.

 

[Busylady]

So many things could be done regarding the increased equity line of credit. It could of very well been used to pay off other debt that they both agreed upon, to make the division of assets simplified in a pending divorce. Also sometimes equity line of credit means the funds are there if you want them at a later time, does not necessarily mean they took $55,000 right then and there. Guess I am just not ready to jump that BC was sneaky and Nancy had no clue about the equity line of credit.

IMO I don't think this murder was planned out, I think something happened that night and he lost control and killed her. From reading various articles it doesnt appear she just found out about the affairs so don't think she confronted him about that. IMO something happened that night, that made him face reality that she was leaving, and taking the children with her to Canada and he snapped. The world that he thought he could control collapsed around him and in the heat of the moment he lost it.

 

[Blink34]

So many things could be done regarding the increased equity line of credit. It could of very well been used to pay off other debt that they both agreed upon, to make the division of assets simplified in a pending divorce. Also sometimes equity line of credit means the funds are there if you want them at a later time, does not necessarily mean they took $55,000 right then and there. Guess I am just not ready to jump that BC was sneaky and Nancy had no clue about the equity line of credit.

IMO I don't think this murder was planned out, I think something happened that night and he lost control and killed her. From reading various articles it doesnt appear she just found out about the affairs so don't think she confronted him about that. IMO something happened that night, that made him face reality that she was leaving, and taking the children with her to Canada and he snapped. The world that he thought he could control collapsed around him and in the heat of the moment he lost it.

I never said she did not have a clue, I just think that she was perhaps misguided as to it's purpose, OR he just wrote a check on the LOC which would be his right and he deposited it elsewhere for the reasons I listed.
She was murdered 5 days after she returned from vacay with her parents, I have to think your right about the realization part.

 

[panthera]

hmmmmm.... with the clothing I'm thinking they could call the outfit he described that way - or maybe they found some of it removed but maybe nearby?? He was so specific on what she was supposed to have been wearing that (if he did this) I'd think he made sure that's what she had on (or that the clothes were nearby).

With the rest, ICAM, and imoho he was, at the very least, being an emotionally abusive sob -- and it's terrible to realize she and the babies had to go through so much the last few months It literally makes me sick to my stomach, and it absolutely makes it easier (for me) to believe he killed her -- and maybe not in the heat of an argument. And for sure it helps explain why she was tired and not feeling well!!

I'm getting the feeling that this is just the tip of the iceberg and that the details are going to be very, very ugly when they come out.

Yes, maybe the clothes were nearby, or not quite what he described. After Scott Peterson, I just can't imagine anyone else being so stupid to give a description of clothing and have it turn out to be something so entirely different. I too am beginning to think this was more premeditated instead of a heat of passion/argument killing with these details coming out. He might have been sitting at home while she was out at the party getting angrier by the minute and just waiting for her to get home. At least the little girls are now with Nancy's family ~ a very nice surprise that the judge ruled in their favor. It really seems to me that he is the #1 suspect for the judge to make this ruling.