Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #5

[petra]

Nancy Cooper's legal status in the United States would have been tied to her husband, immigration lawyers said Thursday. The couple had not yet received green cards or permanent resident status; Cisco Systems, Bradley Cooper's employer, had applied for a set for the couple, friend Brett Adam said.
If Nancy Cooper had left her husband, she might have jeopardized her standing in the U.S.
"Whatever status she had is dependent on his status and his willingness to include her," said Jack Pinnix, a Raleigh lawyer who specializes in immigration law but is not involved with the Coopers.
Nancy Cooper came to the United States on the coattails of her husband. He'd worked for Cisco in Calgary and accepted a transfer to their division at Research Triangle Park. The company secured Bradley Cooper a temporary work visa; Nancy Cooper's was attached to his.
To move to the U.S., Nancy Cooper shelved a budding career in the tech world and left a clothing boutique she ran in Calgary, her friends have said. Here, friends said, Nancy Cooper's visa didn't allow her to work, so she raised her daughters full-time.



http://www.newsobserver.com/2864/story/1145768.html

Thanks for the link.
I get soooo angry over these "guidelines" of immigrants to a country tied to work visas and financial support of one spouse for the other. Nearly impossible to get out of unless you break the laws and make a run for it. It was 8 years they lived in the US!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So many people are trapped in situations like this--and not just in third world countries. I understand the need for controls and for protection so a parent does not 'kidnap' a child across borders.
BUT.....here is another example of a tragic outcome.
There has to be a better solution.
Thank goodness the kids are safe and surrounded by love.

 

[christine2448]

Car seats: why were they inside? Had he removed them to clean out the car to remove evidence? One was a booster but the other had to be installed (which isn't fun), so why were they not in the car? Extremely odd.

Welcome.....I missed that....they weren't in the car? Interesting.

 

[petra]

First post - I finally got approved...! Whiile waiting, I read every single post and am very impressed with this board. Thanks for letting me be here!

What I've been wanting to say since the beginning that struck me as odd (before it became more apparent that she really didn't go jogging): if my husband went jogging at 7am, I would have no idea what he was wearing. I'd either be asleep on a Sat morn, or taking care of one of the children. I may have glanced at him and said 'have a nice run', but I would not have paid much attention to what he had on. I never remember what he's wearing anyway - only the kids because I dress them. BC gave way too many details about her outfit, and too many details often mean you're trying to convince someone of something that's not true.

Another thing: we have two small children, and if I were gone that long on a Saturday, my husband would be like, "Okay - I need a break. Where IS she?!?" And he's a very involved father and helps daily with our kids, but on a Saturday that was his day off, he would've been anxious for me to get back to help out with the kids.

Car seats: why were they inside? Had he removed them to clean out the car to remove evidence? One was a booster but the other had to be installed (which isn't fun), so why were they not in the car? Extremely odd.

As for the organizing that her friend was going to help her with: not all SAHMs are good housekeepers. I was not when I was a SAHM - just not my thing, especially when caring for small children. Even if she was a good housekeeper on a daily basis, alot of folks to help others "declutter" and organize toys, outgrown clothes, etc. I've had friends come over and help with stuff like that, so I didn't find that claim unusual.

Okay, hope I didn't say too much for my first post... just eager to share my thoughts with someone besides my husband (who doesn't get into stuff like this)...!

Welcome belimom.
Great first post. Yes, the devil is in the details, way too many given by BC.
interesting about the car seats....

 

[Torsade]

Good point, Petra! This poor woman was a hostage. I wouldn't leave my babies, and neither could she. And she couldn't leave with them, either. Reminds me of the book "Not Without my Daughter."
So sad. It looks like these babies have a strong, loving family to raise them. Thank God for that.

 

[fran]

Welcome to Websleuths all new posters. We're happy to have you and your input. It's unfortunate the circumstances that have brought you to this little corner of cyber space. But, when all is said in done, we hope you'll stay and participate in 'other' Websleuth discussions.

fran

 

[raisincharlie]

Ok...now I may something that will not be well received...and I do apologize for this ahead of time...but here goes...IMO if Nancy was planning on sending her children to her sister...for whatever reason...I see nothing wrong with her husband taking their passports out of her purse. He was obviously very threatened by this. We don't know what Nancy's intent was for sending them out of the country. It may have been quite innocent...but you don't tell the man you're in a compative relationship with (and yes, even under the best of circumstances when kids are involved, a divorce is a combative situation) that you're sending his kids away. If the shoe was on the other foot, what mother wouldn't go to any lengths to prevent her husband from taking her kids away? The point I'm trying to make is I wouldn't hold THAT (taking the passports) per se against the man. IMO it very well could have been the trigger that flipped his switch. Murder is no solution, obviously. If he feared she was going to do this, all he had to do is handle the matter through the courts. Oh, and as far as withholding money...it's something that unfortunately happens in divorce. He knew she had her parents to help her. Is it a sucky thing to do...OF COURSE! But, it's the nature of the beast. Ugly things do happen when a couple splits up.
For the record, IMO, he is a narcissisitic, controlling SOB. Unfortunately, there are plenty just like him out there. He didn't need to resort to this...but taking the kids' passports...i just can't hold that against him. I would have done the same thing if the situation was reversed.

In most circumstances I would agree with you on this. However, in reviewing the ex parte document, Section 25, it is stated that prior to his confiscation of the children's passports, he had agreed to allow Nancy to take those children home to Canada.

For me, this changes everything. His action of breaking that agreement IMO shows just how immature, or beligerant, or self serving, or controlling, or a combination of all these he truly is. Based on that information, getting into Nancy's car and removing those passports was nothing but pure meaness on his part. Granted divorce can be nasty but I still do not believe that just because of that it gives a person a license to be this ignorant and cruel.

 

[MoonFlwr]

Hiya Belimom :wave:

hehe! I had to wait (im)patiently during the registration process, too!

ETA..Yes, very interesting about the car seats!

 

[PrayersForMaura]

First post - I finally got approved...! Whiile waiting, I read every single post and am very impressed with this board. Thanks for letting me be here!

What I've been wanting to say since the beginning that struck me as odd (before it became more apparent that she really didn't go jogging): if my husband went jogging at 7am, I would have no idea what he was wearing. I'd either be asleep on a Sat morn, or taking care of one of the children. I may have glanced at him and said 'have a nice run', but I would not have paid much attention to what he had on. I never remember what he's wearing anyway - only the kids because I dress them. BC gave way too many details about her outfit, and too many details often mean you're trying to convince someone of something that's not true.

Another thing: we have two small children, and if I were gone that long on a Saturday, my husband would be like, "Okay - I need a break. Where IS she?!?" And he's a very involved father and helps daily with our kids, but on a Saturday that was his day off, he would've been anxious for me to get back to help out with the kids.

Car seats: why were they inside? Had he removed them to clean out the car to remove evidence? One was a booster but the other had to be installed (which isn't fun), so why were they not in the car? Extremely odd.

As for the organizing that her friend was going to help her with: not all SAHMs are good housekeepers. I was not when I was a SAHM - just not my thing, especially when caring for small children. Even if she was a good housekeeper on a daily basis, alot of folks to help others "declutter" and organize toys, outgrown clothes, etc. I've had friends come over and help with stuff like that, so I didn't find that claim unusual.

Okay, hope I didn't say too much for my first post... just eager to share my thoughts with someone besides my husband (who doesn't get into stuff like this)...!

wow, everything you wrote is very intuitive!
And welcome!

Yeah, taking the child seats out of the car.... he must have transported her body in that car.

And I agree ... no guy would be happy that his wife was gone for 7 hours on a weekend while he was with the kids without being curious or concerned. Shoot, my fiance calls me about a dozen times a day while I am at work, lol.

Great first post! I hope you stay here and post more!

 

[NC-Curious]

Thanks Fran

 

[petra]

Good point, Petra! This poor woman was a hostage. I wouldn't leave my babies, and neither could she. And she couldn't leave with them, either. Reminds me of the book "Not Without my Daughter."
So sad. It looks like these babies have a strong, loving family to raise them. Thank God for that.

Agreed. Hostage-perfect word.
One day her beauiful girls will realize the ultimate sacrifice their mom made for them. Poor sweethearts.

 

[SuziQ]

Does anyone see the live link up yet? It's not for me with WRAL.

 

[SuziQ]

Here is another link, top of the page:

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/index

 

[petra]

http://www.wral.com/

Link for the PC

The little label next to the video changes fom 'watch' to 'watch live' when it is time!

Bump...9 am EST

 

[KTaylorsc]

Does this Carrie exist?? I will explain. I am not sure what the verdict was on this.

Maybe Carrie was Nancy's lawyer and she was going to meet with her??

Just a guess.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

it's on Fox News, too.... cable/satellite

 

[raisincharlie]

wow, everything you wrote is very intuitive!
And welcome!

Yeah, taking the child seats out of the car.... he must have transported her body in that car.

And I agree ... no guy would be happy that his wife was gone for 7 hours on a weekend while he was with the kids without being curious or concerned. Shoot, my fiance calls me about a dozen times a day while I am at work, lol.

Great first post! I hope you stay here and post more!

I'm not sure of the timing of Brad carrying the car seats out of the house, however I suspect it was when LE served the search warrants for the house and cars as in the photo police tape is visible. Is it possible that LE had removed those seats from the vehicle in the garage so that Brad could take them with him to be used for the children ? It is possible this could have been the circumstance resulting in the photo of him carrying those car seats out of the house.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I wonder if the "other woman" is going to come forward, Like Amber Frye.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I'm not sure of the timing of Brad carrying the car seats out of the house, however I suspect it was when LE served the search warrants for the house and cars as in the photo police tape is visible. Is it possible that LE had removed those seats from the vehicle in the garage so that Brad could take them with him to be used for the children ? It is possible this could have been the circumstance resulting in the photo of him carrying those car seats out of the house.

I think if they were already in the car, he wouldn't be able to remove them or anything from the car since they would need to be legally searched too.
Have the cars been released yet back to Brad.

 

[MoonFlwr]

Live

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livemedia?section=news/local&id=5812914

 

[PrayersForMaura]

nancy's family is going to talk.