Nancy Grace - 10/13/08 Monday

[sweetmop]

Sorry...don't believe it. But, that's just me I guess.

Sorry, got tied up with a phone call, and didn't answer about the poster who called Leonard this morning. I see several have already answered the question. Yes Coley called Leonard this morning.
I believe Coley. She has no reason to lie. She is an honest, truthful person. And there's been several here that have called him and he talks openly and freely to those that do.

You should go read that whole thread. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

yep, my vote is on nightgown. Lots of Disney nightgowns have that ruffle on the bottom.

You can sort of see the bottoms of it laying on the sofa beside her.

 

[kathyn2]

Here is that post:

He is in Cali. I woke him up and at 1st I was going to call him back but he told me not to worry about it. Here is how the conversation went: I asked him if he had heard the news about TM pulling out of the search and he replied Yes he heard last night. He asked me where I heard it and I told him myfoxorlando.com. I then asked if he would donate to TES since I heard him on scared monkey's that he was going to stay with this case til the end since he has spent so much money. He replied that money wasn't the issue. I then asked if the meeting with GA & CA attorney had anything to do with it and he said yes. I then asked if they had found anything and are keeping it hush hush for the safety of the A's. He said Yes. He then asked me to repeat my question which I did and he said yes that he isn't really allowed to say everything but enough of the remains were found. I then chit chatted with him about his appearance on NG about the DNA and LA. I agreed with him and told him from the beginning I've always thought it was either GA or LA that fathered her. I once again apologized about waking him up and told him thanks for all he does and let him go.


I hope its alright to repost it here. I didn't search for it here but I got it off another site but they copied it from here. I wonder what the scoop is? Also, that photo of the 'bathing suit' she is looking out the armhole. I hope that puts it in perspective. I think it is a little shift dress with ruffled arm holes.

I remember that post but I don't think LP said remains were found.. not recently. I think he meant that there was enough of her remains that would ensure that Casey would be indicted. Or that was the way I interpreted it.

 

[RR0004]

I think it might be a pajama top.

Well, whatever it is it's definitely not a size 6...unless it's 6 months!

 

[Priester]

Yes, it could fit and if from Target most likely did because cheaper clothes run small.

This whole case has ruined Target for me. I tried to shop there today, but I kept thinking about Casey indulging herself with clothes paid for by stolen checks; while Caylee has been discarded in the woods or a lake nearby.
I had to leave the store...nauseous.

Can you really buy Disney clothes for little girls there?

 

[MD MOMMY]

Anyone recall what GA say Caylee was wearing when she and KC left on the 16th. I would think he'd recall if it were a mickey dress. Also, anyone recall what Caylee was wearing when she went to see her GGF with CA?

IIRC..GA said on the 16th Caylee had on blue shorts, pink top and white sunglasses. Casey had on gray pants. Both had backpacks. Pony tail.

I thought in the video from Father's Day she had on blue top and white shorts. Pony tail.

This is totally by memory but it's what I recall at this time.

 

[Leila]

Well, if they found the dress last night I'm not sure what they're talking about then. As far as we heard, there were no active TES searches on the ground, were there? I heard that Tim was out with LE, but I didn't hear about other "searchers".

It's hard to tell with NG. She always opens her program with "breaking news - this just in", even if that news is days old.

This dress could have been found on Sept. 7th, before TES abruptly quit the search and left Florida, citing conditions on the ground not conducive to searching. It has been rumored since then that something was found that day. Perhaps the dress was what was found then.

 

[liltigress]

I can't figure out why someone would plant a dress in any area? What will it prove? Even if strands of Caylee's hair from her hair brush at home were planted in/on the dress.. what does that mean?

Is there someone out there that knows as much about this as Casey and is trying to bring attention to that location? Maybe this is where Caylee's body is.

 

[strach304]

Didn't Tim say on NG tonight that other articles were found? Anyone remember that stuff that was found awhile back and there was a white backpack? I didn't think anything of it at the time because it didn't match up with what George said. At that time I was under the impression that it had monkey's on it and was later said to be white with monkeys.

Could this be why they are calling George to testify. Lord knows Casey has said and done plenty that they could call Cindy and Lee to testify about so why just George? We know Caylee wasn't wearing a mickey mouse dress when she left so...

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I'm trying to picture it......It just seems to awkward to me

Why wouldn't KC just walk to the top of the ladder & hold Caylee under water?

Caylee was already dead.........she was going to put her in the pool and act like she accidentally drowned, but somehow realized it would not work. The child was toward the middle of the pool and she didn't want to get wet, so she either stood on the ladder or that box that was there and pulled her body underwater with the shovel until she got her to the side where she could get her out and put her in the trunk of her car.

Makes sense to me because an aluminum pool pole would not have worked for a dead body and she needed something stronger. The shed was locked so she borrowed the neighbor's shovel, then took it right back. I am betting that shovel had decomp and chlorine both on it if that is what happened.

 

[RR0004]

You can sort of see the bottoms of it laying on the sofa beside her.

It looks awfully shiny for a nightgown...but why are we talking about this? I've forgotten.

 

[Thinaire]

Dress was found in good condition....but WHEN was it found?

YES! Great question...that no one on the panel asked....maybe a bombshell to us but I think Nancy knew beforehand...

 

[MD MOMMY]

This whole case has ruined Target for me. I tried to shop there today, but I kept thinking about Casey indulging herself with clothes paid for by stolen checks; while Caylee has been discarded in the woods or a lake nearby.
I had to leave the store...nauseous.

Can you really buy Disney clothes for little girls there?

Yes..they in the toddler section have lots of Disney T's, and PJ's and I've seen a Disney Princess dress before. I shop at Target a lot and am in the toddler section monthly. They also have lots of High School Musical/Hanna Montana stuff in the bigger girls area.

 

[Boston]

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17399904/detail.html

Here is the Link to the Dress that it supposed to be

Thats why I'm thinking that there is no way that this dress can be a size 6

3rd image

 

[Terilee]

I thought a dead body would only float without some sort of anchor. If so, why would she slip to the bottom of the pool?:waitasec:

That makes me think now....

maybe Casey put Caylee in a bag (duffle bag garbage bag) and needed the shovel to dig up some dirt to throw into the bag to make the bag sink. Does that make any sense?

 

[Angel Who Cares]

The full uncut interview w/CA that NG was referring to released!http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/M....jsp?contentId=7638386&version=1&locale=EN-US

 

[Baznme]

Hi everyone,

Nancy said that the dress that was found was a Disney World dress.

Knowing that George is employed there as is my husband we have a special cast store where we can purchase clothing, dress up costumes and other great Disney Parks items at a discount. There is even a store that gives a really great discount off the original price. The store that sells these items is called the PC and all the clothing items from that store have PC written in permenant ink on the back off the size tag.

My grandaughter is almost 4 and we have picked up alot of dresses in the PC for her and all of them are a size XS which is a 5/6. They almost never have an item that is an xxs which is a 2-4.

It would be interesting to know if the dress that was found has a PC written on the tag. Disney keeps good records on what their employees purchase. They want to make sure that you are not buying and reselling the items and keep records through your employee card for this reason. It makes a sense to me why they do this.
You have to have a special Disney Employee card to get into the store and then have to show it again when you purchase the items you are buying. It is much like your military ID if you are in the military.

With all that said, I think that it is possible that a Disney world size 6 dress could be Caylee's.

FlowerGirl

This might be something you may want to report.

 

[TxLady2]

He said on NG it was found this past Sat.

He also said the dress was found by someone with TES... did he not? So this David person is wrong... I don't know where the leak about it came from, but I do remember that much.... if I heard him correctly.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

It is a rumor according to my pedi that if you double the height of a 2 YEAR old that will give you their adult height.

This is correct. My Pedi always said to measure them on their 2nd Bday. (Btw~ This worked on my son, but not the girls.)

 

[RR0004]

Here is that post:

He is in Cali. I woke him up and at 1st I was going to call him back but he told me not to worry about it. Here is how the conversation went: I asked him if he had heard the news about TM pulling out of the search and he replied Yes he heard last night. He asked me where I heard it and I told him myfoxorlando.com. I then asked if he would donate to TES since I heard him on scared monkey's that he was going to stay with this case til the end since he has spent so much money. He replied that money wasn't the issue. I then asked if the meeting with GA & CA attorney had anything to do with it and he said yes. I then asked if they had found anything and are keeping it hush hush for the safety of the A's. He said Yes. He then asked me to repeat my question which I did and he said yes that he isn't really allowed to say everything but enough of the remains were found. I then chit chatted with him about his appearance on NG about the DNA and LA. I agreed with him and told him from the beginning I've always thought it was either GA or LA that fathered her. I once again apologized about waking him up and told him thanks for all he does and let him go.


I hope its alright to repost it here. I didn't search for it here but I got it off another site but they copied it from here. I wonder what the scoop is? Also, that photo of the 'bathing suit' she is looking out the armhole. I hope that puts it in perspective. I think it is a little shift dress with ruffled arm holes.

Ok...and it had nothing to do with TES finding the remains. Yikes...this is like a game of telephone. I have to say, I have heard other posters post similar stories about their phone connections.