Nancy Grace - 10/16/08 Thursday

[Chilly Willy]

oh boy, I just watched that video again and it shows Cindy on that morning show all messed up on whatever her substance of choice is. She really needs to just stay home when she gets loaded like that.

She did look out of it, poor woman. I see she had Caylee's Micky Mouse dress with her.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Are you kidding? What investigation? Besides taking dogs to the house and car (only the Anthony's that is, nobody else's, none of the places where KC had been staying, etc), and sending in a couple samples from said car? Oh, and taking brief statements from a handful of the people who knew KC. Oh I forgot, reading the phone and computer records.

Whatever happened to the FBI supposedly being involved?

They are involved. They were at the GJ, weren't they!? Apparently you figured they would see the light and "side with" the A's? Guess not! Must be they have it out for the A's too, like the rest of the world.

 

[seagull65]

You keep saying we can't draw any conclusions about Casey because we really know so little. How can you draw any conclusions about what LE has or hasn't investigated or whether it is unfair or too restricted, when we know so little, really, of what they are up to. They may have fully pursued a myriad of things and reasonably concluded they are dead ends.

I said this same thing in my posts, that I hope they have investigated much, much more than has been disclosed thus far, i.e. luminol done in the homes where she'd been staying, the homes where the parties went on, at the club, in the cars of all the roommates and the folks who were coming and going, the cadaver dogs used in all these places and the grounds and dumpsters around them, to include Sutton Place, Glenwood, Lake Vaj, the Oviedo house, Sawgrass, the other complex where TL was looking into moving, etc, and flight manifests of all those flights the friends took here and there, etc. If it were me, also computer records from everyone. I mean, usually if a child is missing , they do investigate all the mother's associates, it seems like that's a given in an investigation. Don't they?

And if they suspect the child is deceased, so much more reason to do all the above.

 

[Lexington]

Beyond that, CA is just grandstanding for the media.

And making an a## of herself in the process.

 

[Oakley]

oh boy, I just watched that video again and it shows Cindy on that morning show all messed up on whatever her substance of choice is. She really needs to just stay home when she gets loaded like that.

CA must be going through H*&& on earth. You know, her incessant talking irritates me to no end. And when she blames everyone but KC, I want to scream. But being a GM myself, I honestly cannot fathom what she must be feeling right now. I am going to be sure to keep her in my prayers.

 

[Themis]

Are you kidding? What investigation? Besides taking dogs to the house and car (only the Anthony's that is, nobody else's, none of the places where KC had been staying, etc), and sending in a couple samples from said car? Oh, and taking brief statements from a handful of the people who knew KC. Oh I forgot, reading the phone and computer records.

Whatever happened to the FBI supposedly being involved?

Yes. IMHO, LE has done a superb job. Their job is not to appease CA or to follow her orders. They are investigating a case and it is nearly done. The only thing they don't have is the body, and with what they think, it is highly unlikely there is a body to find anymore. So, they will go with what they have. There was no indicator that they should look in anybody else's house or location because the interviews were consistent. When interviews are consistent throughout and across the board on many factors, it is an indication of truth; something KC's interviews lacked from the get go. It is sad for the family, but the family does not get to direct the investigation or set the standard for what is done, how it is done or when it is completed. That is for the LE commander and the States' Attorneys.

 

[Brini]

You know, I think in the end, something as simple and normal as this could turn out to be what actually happened. Usually it does seem like the simplest explanation turns out to be the truth. As many have said here before, if something like this did happen, it's even possible she has been in a state of shock since then and can't allow herself to face what happened, will only let herself remember the last time she dropped Caylee off with the babysitter.

If she was in a state of shock, she's have a flat affect and a low energy level.

She's been partying up a storm, Seagull. She is NOT in shock.

 

[Ocean Lover]

Are you kidding? What investigation? Besides taking dogs to the house and car (only the Anthony's that is, nobody else's, none of the places where KC had been staying, etc), and sending in a couple samples from said car? Oh, and taking brief statements from a handful of the people who knew KC. Oh I forgot, reading the phone and computer records.

Whatever happened to the FBI supposedly being involved?

The FBI is involved. They testified at the GJ this week. They did go to KC's friends house. In fact they went to TL twice.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

CA must be going through H*&& on earth. You know, her incessant talking irritates me to no end. And when she blames everyone but KC, I want to scream. But being a GM myself, I honestly cannot fathom what she must be feeling right now. I am going to be sure to keep her in my prayers.

I am going to pray she gets off some of those drugs.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

And making an a## of herself in the process.

That was pitiful. KC won't be jealous of that "cameo."

 

[OneLostGrl]

She did look out of it, poor woman. I see she had Caylee's Micky Mouse dress with her.

yeah :crazy:

 

[Brini]

which theory? There are so many theories. Regarding any decomp "evidence", we'll have to wait for the trial to see what any evidence actually turns out to be. If it is identified as really being Caylee body evidence, then the questions turn to accident vs. murder, KC vs. someone else, etc.

We already know what the decomp evidence is. That's how we know that LE has a strong case against KC.

 

[seagull65]

They are involved. They were at the GJ, weren't they!? Apparently you figured they would see the light and "side with" the A's? Guess not! Must be they have it out for the A's too, like the rest of the world.

This kind of sarcasm and rudeness is usually not used here.

The evidence has not even been heard in court yet. So we are still discussing many theories on this website. Most people who come here like to bounce ideas off each other and consider various scenarios.

 

[Brini]

If KC committed a crime, if she fatally harmed Caylee in some way, why hang around? Her continuation of normal behavior makes me tend toward the belief that she didn't realize the gravity of the situation yet, i.e. thought Caylee would be coming back, thought she was in good hands, thought the nanny had her for the summer, whatever. Either that or it's also possible that KC is completely delusional or has a cognitive problem of some kind. Could be memory, could be irrationality, could be delusions, could be a lot of things. It is pretty weird about the absinthe bottle in the party pictures. When the absinthe revival began I thought it must not really be the same old absinthe, it must be a new drink that's just called that to be funny. But no, it really is absinthe making a comeback.

She DOES understand the gravity of what she did. That's why she lied, covered up, and tried to get rid of the car. That's also why she tried to blame people whom she did not even know.

 

[Themis]

I said this same thing in my posts, that I hope they have investigated much, much more than has been disclosed thus far, i.e. luminol done in the homes where she'd been staying, the homes where the parties went on, at the club, in the cars of all the roommates and the folks who were coming and going, the cadaver dogs used in all these places and the grounds and dumpsters around them, to include Sutton Place, Glenwood, Lake Vaj, the Oviedo house, Sawgrass, the other complex where TL was looking into moving, etc, and flight manifests of all those flights the friends took here and there, etc. If it were me, also computer records from everyone. I mean, usually if a child is missing , they do investigate all the mother's associates, it seems like that's a given in an investigation. Don't they?

No. LE doesn't have to do the things you stated. If they have positive evidence pointing to one person, KC, they don't have to rule out every single person she came into contact with. They are not persons of interest. If that were the standard, investigations would go on forever and no trials would be held.

 

[seagull65]

If she was in a state of shock, she's have a flat affect and a low energy level.

She's been partying up a storm, Seagull. She is NOT in shock.

By "partying up a storm" do you mean the pictures at Tony's event at the club, where she worked for him? Those pictures that the media showed over and over again claiming that she was partying it up? The other pictures were from her 21st birthday a year ago and May 25, right?

 

[Brini]

It's actually the prosecution who are going to have to present a convincing case of guilt.

Yes, I understand that's true that an accident that occurred during the commission of another crime can legally be "homicide". Not that I agree with it, but there it is.

I'm not saying either that KC won't be convicted of murder, whether or not she ever committed a murder. Generally I do trust juries though. But the climate in this case has been awful. She was convicted of murder in the media before any facts were known in the case at all. LE seemed to conclude that she had killed her child during DAY 1 of the investigation, they told her this more or less. They do not appear to have investigated other possibilities or any other parties in any detail at all.

That's because:
1) All of the forensic decomp evidence is in her car, and
2) She lied and tried to obstruct the investigation, endlessly.

LE has to go where the evidence points. All of it points to KC. It always has. None of it points to anyone else.

 

[Brini]

The reason is that she suddenly got caught stealing from her grandmother and also couldn't go on the trip with her friends. In my opinion that if her parents would have held her accountable for her actions all her life then maybe just maybe this wouldn't be happening now.

yep. You cannot enable a personality disordered person.

 

[Oakley]

I am going to pray she gets off some of those drugs.

Those drugs may be the only thing keeping her from going off the deep end about now. By the way Turbo, I enjoy your posts!

 

[ThoughtElf]

One Word: SNOTHEAD

'nuff said.