Nancy Grace - 9/19/08 - Friday

[panthera]

She already had some cash, and would mooch for the rest. I don't think this was a very well planned circumstance, thus an accident starting the spiral.

Or it could possibly be as somebody suggested on Nancy's show that it was just another lie, or she wanted MH to send her money for the trip.

 

[tx_Dot]

I don't know - Tonights show was very confusing because NG made a statement that MH worked at Universal & then it was retracted

LP also mentioned another Security Guard besides MH that worked at Universal

Then we have the Female security Guard that was in the Anthony house

I'm going to watch the show again at 10 & see if I can figure out what's going on

Yep......@ times NG is very bad about interupting......if you read last nights NG thread LP talks more about the female guard & her att.

o/t almost as many att.'s in this saga (now) as there is ex-boyfriends/ possilble Caylee daddy's.......how sad.

 

[Brini]

Thats what I think -

She's told a couple other people they were Caylee's daddy, too. Jesse G. agreed to marry her, until he had a DNA test done.

 

[wedavis]

OMG ~ I hadn't thought of that because she sure was ruining Amy's credit by passing bad checks!

I don't think that would be correct. Those checks cleared I think. All Amy said was that her balance was $0 not overdrawn.

I don't think a couple of bad checks ruins your credit any way. Depends on your bank and account policies.

 

[leandjl]

Are you talking about "hook ups"? Don't forget RM.

TonyL
TonyR

 

[Lorraining]

What I can't quite figure out though is how did she plan to survive in California without friends or family there to steal from? She'd actually have to get a good job in order to pay for an apt. and whatnot!

Not if she was planning to move in with MH. I think it very likely she had been stealing the money with the plan to skip town to California and live with MH. She could have been carrying on some hot and heavy online relationship with him and had manipulated him enough so that he wanted to be with her. She is a very good LIAR.

 

[panthera]

Yes, I know. It is laughable. I just think he was her next "mark". No pun intended.:biglaugh:

Good one! :clap: I wonder if TL knew of her constant communication with MH while she was staying at his apt., cooking & doing his laundry?

 

[Pink Panther]

Possible Fathers:

Jesus O
Jesse G (DNA proves he isn't)
Brandon S
Mark H
Friend of Lees from Tennessee (name?)
Security Guard at Universal

Recent "hook ups":

Tony L
Tony R
Riccardo M
2 other cops (unknown)

 

[Brini]

Faces 71 years in jail! I wish!
I can not stand hearing her talk! Her voice...!!!!!

"I will lie, I will steal, I will do anything to find my daughter".

Don't you wish you could put a sort of magic spell on KC. That she'd only be able to speak when she told the truth? You'd never have to hear that pretentious little vioce, again.

 

[panthera]

Not if she was planning to move in with MH. I think it very likely she had been stealing the money with the plan to skip town to California and live with MH. She could have been carrying on some hot and heavy online relationship with him and had manipulated him enough so that he wanted to be with her. She is a very good LIAR.

Oh I'll definitely agree with the last sentence!

 

[CitizenKim]

She probably has it somewhere ......either on the sim card from the lost blackjack, or maybe she could access it somewhere on the internet.

Surely she has a copy of it somewhere.........She is ABSOLUTELY positive she would NEVER throw something like that out.

Ha -yes, she probably has "perspective ideas" about who it could be.

 

[Samijeansg]

Yep......@ times NG is very bad about interupting......if you read last nights NG thread LP talks more about the female guard & her att.

o/t almost as many att.'s in this saga (now) as there is ex-boyfriends/ possilble Caylee daddy's.......how sad.

Yes she is very bad at interupting! I enjoy her shows, but that really gets on my nerves sometimes. She could let them answer the question, what if she cut off something good they were going to say?

 

[Baznme]

Possible Fathers:

Jesus O
Jesse G (DNA proves he isn't)
Brandon S
Mark H
Friend of Lees from Tennessee (name?)
Security Guard at Universal

Recent "hook ups":

Tony L
Tony R
Riccardo M
2 other cops (unknown)

Friend of Lees - Jeremy?

 

[Brini]

I think I've heard CA offer the theory that another dead body was in the trunk while it was at the tow yard.

Yeah. GA said it was maybe an animal that she hit. CA said somebody else put a dead body in there.

I get SOOO torqued when strangers put dead bodies into my trunk.

 

[Theonly1]

but why would she want to tell him after she killed her? i dunno no but that dont sound right to me

In my opinion, I think Casey wanted to "lam" it and get out of Orlando. Who knows WHAT she was going to tell him (remember her myspace to him about having to get drunk to tell him), I think she wanted him to pay for a one-way ticket outta town!

 

[marly56]

Where oh where is LP..I need my OrLAHndo fix.

i bet lp is a johnny cash fan.

 

[sweetmop]

Try to put yourself in Casey's position for a moment.

Let's say she's killed her child and disposed of her body. How does she get away with it?

First, who does she have to worry about? Not any of her friends - they're all temporary anyway, and she can always tell them that Caylee is with the nanny, or her parents. They didn't seem to think there was anything amiss about that story, so she was OK there.

She had to have known that Amy would be livid about Casey stealing her checks even if she'd gotten away with stealing her cash, so Amy was used for what she could supply ($) and was otherwise disposable. Tony was fun, but he would have tied her to Orlando so his use to her was as a crash pad to keep her from having to go home. Disposable. Ricardo filled in with a crash pad when Tony inconveniently left town for a few days, and Jesse was used for his shower facilities. Disposable.

The biggest stumbling block was her family. No way would they believe her BS about a suddenly missing Caylee, and she couldn't dispose of them (although I wonder about that, what with the signing over of the mortgage story she was feeding her friends..).

Casey had to leave town, and make her parents believe that she had Caylee with her until she had enough distance between her and them to disappear.

Mark Hawkins was probably the only person she knows that is so far away from her parents' reach that it would buy her enough time to think of yet another story to explain no Caylee.

I think your story is pretty much the way that KC was thinking.
I believe that her leaving her car, along with her purse and keys in it was also a set up. She was hoping to make it appear like she had been kidnapped or worse.
She wanted out of Florida in the worst way!

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Try to put yourself in Casey's position for a moment.

Let's say she's killed her child and disposed of her body. How does she get away with it?

First, who does she have to worry about? Not any of her friends - they're all temporary anyway, and she can always tell them that Caylee is with the nanny, or her parents. They didn't seem to think there was anything amiss about that story, so she was OK there.

She had to have known that Amy would be livid about Casey stealing her checks even if she'd gotten away with stealing her cash, so Amy was used for what she could supply ($) and was otherwise disposable. Tony was fun, but he would have tied her to Orlando so his use to her was as a crash pad to keep her from having to go home. Disposable. Ricardo filled in with a crash pad when Tony inconveniently left town for a few days, and Jesse was used for his shower facilities. Disposable.

The biggest stumbling block was her family. No way would they believe her BS about a suddenly missing Caylee, and she couldn't dispose of them (although I wonder about that, what with the signing over of the mortgage story she was feeding her friends..).

Casey had to leave town, and make her parents believe that she had Caylee with her until she had enough distance between her and them to disappear.

Mark Hawkins was probably the only person she knows that is so far away from her parents' reach that it would buy her enough time to think of yet another story to explain no Caylee.

I'm wondering if the person on NG tonight that said she probably just wanted him to pay for a ticket there was right. Things just happened quicker than she thought they would.

 

[Baznme]

Don't you wish you could put a sort of magic spell on KC. That she'd only be able to speak when she told the truth? You'd never have to hear that pretentious little vioce, again.

Just before she said that.....and I mean JUST before.....she said, "The most horrible that happened.........and then she went into her BS shpeel. I caught it the first time and went back and listened to it again and again. She almost spilled it and caught herself.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Not if she was planning to move in with MH. I think it very likely she had been stealing the money with the plan to skip town to California and live with MH. She could have been carrying on some hot and heavy online relationship with him and had manipulated him enough so that he wanted to be with her. She is a very good LIAR.

I agree, but instead of "moving in" she was just gonna "mooch" and "leech" and we all know it wouldn't have taken him long to figure her out - but yes she was going out there to be with him. I think the phone call to him on the 27th (car she "dumped" the car) was a "phishing" call. She was feeling him out, possibly crying poor face to see if he would ante up any money for her trip. We don't know if she called him again or vice versa. Next opportunity came up - AH leaving for PR and giving KC her car and bank account. The day AH et al, came home was the SAME DAY this circus opened its big top - CA tracking KC down, GA retrieving the smelly car, AH finding out she's been cleaned out. And what did KC say that night during the 911 call? Give me one more day. I would really like to know if she had a plane ticket. She also told AH that day that she better not see her online that night - didn't want he checking her bank balance. By tomorrow - wouldn't matter - she would have been leavin' on a jet plane......