Nancy Grace - Friday 11/14/08 (Anthony's Cancelled.)

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You are correct we were never given guarantees. I however tend to take someones word when they say one thing and get upset when they do another. I'm not just talking about the people in this case, I'm speaking generally. TM had big shoes to fill and IMO he hasn't come close yet. JMO. I still respect what he does and what he has done in other cases however I am disappointed at the moment, mainly in his demeanor.

well looks like i didnt do double quote right.. darn. the other one was sammi's i wanted here..


I don't know who's guarantee your talking about.. but lp gave one the night him and tm was on ng and camera took a fast shot of tm and tm just smiled.. so yes I took as a guarantee from them both..

and what gets me is tm said on ng (thurs. show) that he would be back.. this got my krawl up .. now enough is enough unless he stays at least 2 weeks to cover 2 weekends for searches.. one just dont cut it . searchers have lives and saturday seems the big search days.. ok off my soap box now . sorry
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  • #283
:clap: Great post. Tim Miller & TES have searched quietly for many years. Rarely have we ever seen any media at a search. Why, because he doesn't seek it out & want's the search to run as well as it can. I think you also want to be sure volunteers come out for the RIGHT reasosn, the search.

I understand Orlando didn't run as smooth as it could have. How many fires do you suppose they might have been putting out before it even began? How many other things distracted from the focus? If we don't see why the media shouldnt be all over the search from this, we will never understand it.

And do I care how many drinks, if at all, someone had before the search? NO. These people give of their time, talent, are away weeks at a time from spouses, children. They go in the muck & teach us how to do the same. They do the best they can. If not for TES, how much searching would have been done for Caylee? All of you who went out there, some more than once, you know how hard this search was. What if you did this day after day, week after week?

I am very angry. Tim, TES & all those who searched their hearts out are being picked apart. This is about CAYLEE. There is a core group in Orlando. Not only will they be able to continue to search for Caylee, they will be ready with boots already on the ground the next time someone is missing in that area.

We have a woman in her 40's, diabetic, mentally ill, who wandered away from a group home in Sept. She, like Caylee, deserves to be found. THIS search is near to MY heart because I have an adopted, 31 yr old son who suffers from fetal alochol syndrome. A couple yrs ago he wanted to live on his own, like every other adult. After a lot of research we thought we had found a wonderful group home. NOT. He stayed almost a year & we brought him home. That could have been my son who wondered away. I have spent 31 years working my heart out in NC to make things better for our handicapped population. Searching for Mouy is just one more way. She may not be a beautiful little girl who has tugged at our heart strings, or gotten national coverage, but she is someones daughter & her life mattered. I for one, am VERY PROUD to join a search group tomorrow for her. And I thank God TES has come to help find her, if she can be found. If Mouy is never found, her parents will know a lot of people cared.

PLEASE stop making Tim & TES out to be monsters, they aren't.
I couldn't agree with you more and personally I wish Tim and TES all the good fortune in the world to find Mouy and many others who are missing. I know what good work all of TES has done and continues to do. Bless you and all of TES for your efforts to help others. :)
 
  • #284
TM on phone:

Once in a while people have differences. Begging everyone to get emotions under control and focus back on Caylee.

yeah right. He's the one taking the focus off Caylee by talking 🤬🤬🤬🤬 to the media about others searching for her!
 
  • #285
I don't like what has been happening with the "players" in this case of late. I have children who behave better. But the truth be told, there are others would need TM's expertise. The truth lies in Casey. When it comes time for sentencing, maybe she'll fess up to where Caylee is then. But, it's been 5 months...I see no problem with Tim moving on to help others.

But TM hasn't been looking for 5 months! He's only looked for a few days, a week at most! TM was the one who said he wouldn't leave until the child was found. He's left how many times already and she's still hidden. He took on this burden and made those promises, now he's crying on TV, after bashing LP last night. It's a bizarre situation. Not to mention how he's cozied up to Cindy after she gave him "heck" from the get-go. Cindy's Koolaid, perhaps?

Not that I'm bashing him, or you. Just thinking this is so frustrating for everyone. I'm sure TM is frustrated, LP is frustrated (but searching), LE has their hands full, and the Anthonys are bashing everyone searching for remains. I'm afraid this situation will have a lasting effect on those who searched, struggled through the swamp, marsh, muck, water, facing down swamp creatures, whatever.

And after all is said and done, IT'S ALL CASEY'S FAULT.
 
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But TM hasn't been looking for 5 months! He's only looked for a few days! TM was the one who said he wouldn't leave until the child was found. He's left how many times already and she's still hidden. He took on this burden and made those promises, now he's crying on TV, after bashing LP last night. It's a bizarre situation. Not to mention how he's cozied up to Cindy after she gave him "heck" from the get-go.

Not that I'm bashing him, or you. Just thinking this is so frustrating for everyone.

Cindy's Koolaid, perhaps?


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
  • #288
But he hasn't gone back on his word. He has a core team in Orlando searching.

You are correct it just isn't the scale of search now that was originally discussed. TM, IMO made it sound like HE was in it for the long haul but that just isn't the case. As I've said I am not discounting for a second what this man does, I just feel as though he didn't live up to his words, exactly. JMO.
 
  • #289
just to make quick note I am not bashing tm or lp either just frustrated also..
 
  • #290
It's really sad to think that just b/c someone who is now remains doesn't have much of a meaning as a family who thinks their loved one is alive. And let me guess, they think they are alive b/c they don't have decomp in the trunk? How sad!!!
 
  • #291
I really thought TM was above mud slinging and playing dirty. I'm not about to guess if what he says about LP is true or not. For all I know it could be, but seriously what good does it do anyone to bring it up? I just feel it was not needed and he lost his focus which is Caylee. I know nobody is perfect and I never thought TM was a superhero nor do I do now.

I'm also upset that TM's comments were so GRAND about him staying until he brought Caylee home. I just think he said things that he couldn't follow through with. He's been searching for missing people for how long? He knows other people want and would eventually want his help. I just think he made false promises and got himself wrapped up in the hype instead of being realistic.

I do think what he does is fantastic, but honestly I think he should stick to doing what he does best. IMO, his downfall was being so far in the public eye and IMO it did not suit him well.


I agree with you that blaming LP or others is counterproductive. LP and TM have styles that obviously clash. I don't think TM should have made remarks about LP but he did and I believe that he realizes that was not his finest moment, but again we all say things that we wish we could take back. He might make more mistakes down the road as humans tend to do but he is under such intense scrutiny and I think the pressure of this situation had something to do with it. I choose to believe that he is refocusing back to Caylee. I just don't want the A's to win by having us turn on the people that are trying to bring Caylee the justice she deserves.
 
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Attention everyone: Once you become remains then some people don't think you matter.

How pathetic!
 
  • #293
Yes, it also makes you think to go to Lake Underhill. Has that been searched?


Wow, Lake Underhill is right down the street from my business...chilling to think that poor child could be there somewhere. From most of the shoreline I've been to it's pretty shallow so that would probably limit the areas where Caylee could be...unless a) Casey waded out into the water at night (doubtful since there are gators in Lake Underhill and I can't see Casey doing that or b) she had a boat. The area near the bridge is being dug up as they are replacing the bridge across the lake for the 408 and parts of the lake are sectioned off as they dig. I doubt she could have used the section by the parking lot as this is a pretty busy park and the parking lot is fairly visible from the road. I'm sure there are areas to access the lake outside that parking area though.
 
  • #294
:clap::clap: Totally agree :clap::clap:

To me, for TM to call into the show and try to make ammends -- I applaud him :clap: I can forgive him :clap: He is/was more of a man than most.

It wasn't easy for him to do that and he was obviously very emotional about it -- I can respect that.

He is under an immense amount of strain and folks are pulling him in different directions and also abusing him, to their own evil dastardly ends. There has been a lot of manipulation recently and we should move on and get the focus back on Caylee -- as TM said.

TM did the wrong thing but, to me he has apologized and I am willing to forget it, cut him a break and put it behind me. I love TM!! :blowkiss:

IMO Tim has been hearing from people (?) and just might realize now he has been played....?:confused:
 
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Since she didn't have a family that gave 2 sh*ts about her, would make me want to find this child even more so.
 
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I agree with you that blaming LP or others is counterproductive. LP and TM have styles that obviously clash. I don't think TM should have made remarks about LP but he did and I believe that he realizes that was not his finest moment, but again we all say things that we wish we could take back. He might make more mistakes down the road as humans tend to do but he is under such intense scrutiny and I think the pressure of this situation had something to do with it. I choose to believe that he is refocusing back to Caylee. I just don't want the A's to win by having us turn on the people that are trying to bring Caylee the justice she deserves.

I'm on the same page, I feel like this un-unified chaos is what the A's thrive on and that is another part that gets to me.
 
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But TM hasn't been looking for 5 months! He's only looked for a few days! TM was the one who said he wouldn't leave until the child was found. He's left how many times already and she's still hidden. He took on this burden and made those promises, now he's crying on TV, after bashing LP last night. It's a bizarre situation. Not to mention how he's cozied up to Cindy after she gave him "heck" from the get-go.

Not that I'm bashing him, or you. Just thinking this is so frustrating for everyone.

Cindy's Koolaid, perhaps?

ITA :clap:
 
  • #298
I agree. :blowkiss:I don't regret donating either. It seems that, unfortunately the same people who held him to such a sainthood status are now the very ones ripping him down. Odd how that works.

Nothing odd about it. New information has come to light. Some opinions have changed.
 
  • #299
What mother who had just had her daughter taken without her permission by the nanny would even be thinking about watching movies with her boyfriend, let alone movies with parallels to what had supposedly just happened in real life a few hours earlier? As I've said many times before, her own behavior speaks volumes that she is the one who is responsible for Caylee being gone and it was no accident. MOO


Your opinion and mine, sad to say.
 
  • #300
I heard his phone call also...Very sad..I wish everyone could get back to discussing the case about CAYLEE..

yeah, it would be nice if Tim stopped talking 🤬🤬🤬🤬 about ppl too. At least be truthful here and stop pointing fingers in only one direction! The man is wrong, everyone makes mistakes, Tim included and he made one and we are simply calling him on it. As far as I'm concerned we have the right to... I know I have donated money to TES.


ETA: *bracing myself for the ban sure to come for my honesty*!
 

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