Nancy Grace Had A Awesome Show Tonite With Joel B as her guest.1-9-08

[MaddyDecaf]

The whole thing about turning Stacy into some sort of "runaway bride criminal" is despicable.

She's already lost her mother and sister, and she just wouldn't go off and let her other sister worry like this - no way. She wouldn't leave her children this long - no freaking way.

It makes me angry. :furious:

I'm just putting this out here: The recommendation (by so-called experts) for those in fear of their lives at the hand of their abuser, is that they should leave their situation and NOT take their children, as taking the children c/would lead to the endangered person being found more readily (which makes sense.)

DP's record of (alleged) abuse is pretty much documented (what little there is of it) as being directed ONLY toward the women in his life with whom he's had relationships; yet, none toward his children -- ever.

Possible Bolingbrook PD 'corruption' taken into consideration here ... there are still no documented incidents where DP has been arrested in regards to any domestic dispute. (I'm not sayin' domestic violence on his part didn't take place. I'm saying that if it happened, and it couldn't be disputed, we'd have known about it by now - and, he's never been charged previously. KS isn't the only person who could've yelled, screamed and stomped up 'n down to promote the pressing of charges for abuse. KS' family (witnesses to it?) could've intervened if there was a clear and present danger. And yah, it's possible EVERYONE was so fearful of DP; but somehow I doubt EVERYONE would've been fearful of this guy. He's JUST a cop. If KS' family truly felt she was threatened or in danger, they should've/would've intervened. Likewise, if they felt she was murdered, NOTHING should've stopped them from furthering the investigation at the time of her death. None of this happened. Why not? They let the whole thing slide because they were terrified of some cop dude? ONE member, at least, of KS' family should've made a 'federal' case out of her death at the time.) I'm NOT blaming them for not doing so ... I'm saying that they don't look credible today, being interviewed/relating their stories about the alleged abuse she suffered, when they didn't make HUGE waves when she died.)

If Stacy felt the need to flee for her safety (because of what she claimed to have known about the KS death/murder), she would be brilliant to have left her children behind, to assure her own safety - so that she would not be found during this time, so she could testify later.

I think the slope is slippery. As a mom, you'd have to walk the tightrope with gritted teeth and consider what is in the best interest of both your kids and your own safety, but primarily ... your kids. If Stacy fled, perhaps she did put her children first and her other family second.

Will we ever know?

 

[Taximom]

Hi Taximom,

I did read your earlier postings about the 'coding' in printers. (It's fascinating and cool stuff!) I may have misread it, but I understood it to pertain to color printers only. Yes? No? Do you know? Thanks!

I don't remember exactly, but I do remember it was only certain printers at the time. I'll have to go back and read it again sometime.

I just think it's neat that the technology is out there, and hardly anyone is aware of it. I like that it's available as a possible crime-solving tool, but I'm not so keen on Big Brother (ha) knowing everything I do!

 

[Leila]

Just a thought.............if LE investigated and could confirm that DP was in Cincinnati on Dec. 28th/December 29th, and confirm the probability that DP authored and mailed the letter, this would also cast doubt on the first letter mailed from Peoria. It would show that DP was trying to imped the investigation with false leads.

 

[MaddyDecaf]

Just a thought.............if LE investigated and could confirm that DP was in Cincinnati on Dec. 28th/December 29th, and confirm the probability that DP authored and mailed the letter, this would also cast doubt on the first letter mailed from Peoria. It would show that DP was trying to imped the investigation with false leads.

Respectfully, I feel the phrase "confirm the probability" is an oxymoron. There is either confirmation of something (real) - or there is none.

 

[MaddyDecaf]

Just a thought.............if LE investigated and could confirm that DP was in Cincinnati on Dec. 28th/December 29th, and confirm the probability that DP authored and mailed the letter, this would also cast doubt on the first letter mailed from Peoria. It would show that DP was trying to imped the investigation with false leads.

Also .. there was doubt about the first letter, too, wasn't there? Did either 'side' give credence to the first 'sighting' of Stacy letter? I don't recall that happening.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Just a thought.............if LE investigated and could confirm that DP was in Cincinnati on Dec. 28th/December 29th, and confirm the probability that DP authored and mailed the letter, this would also cast doubt on the first letter mailed from Peoria. It would show that DP was trying to imped the investigation with false leads.

Problem is, all mail is taken to a Processing and Distribution Center. That letter may have been mailed far from Cincinnati but directed there. For instance, when I mail a letter here locally at my Post Office it goes to another City for sorting which is no where near where I live and the postmark reflects that City not mine.

 

[MaddyDecaf]

I don't remember exactly, but I do remember it was only certain printers at the time. I'll have to go back and read it again sometime.

I just think it's neat that the technology is out there, and hardly anyone is aware of it. I like that it's available as a possible crime-solving tool, but I'm not so keen on Big Brother (ha) knowing everything I do!

I'm always happy to throw another log in the imaginary fire. That said, I just bought a new (old) printer on eBay, identical to the printer I bought 10 years ago. (I love this printer, but they don't make them anymore and I have an excess of toner cartridges, which were expensive.)

POINT? Someone buys a used printer on eBay from a seller who acquired the printer from ................ who the frack knows -- could be a printer acquired from someone's friend of a friend, a garage sale, an office liquidation, etc. ... right? The original buyer/owner cannot be traced.

I think there's a valid reason that LE doesn't follow up and spend time and cash on leads that they feel won't add up to much. The latest letter doesn't make sense to me and likely didn't make sense to LE either. It surely didn't make sense to Pam Bosco.... but, I digress.
:crazy:

 

[Taximom]

We have enough real fires around here, IMO. LOL

 

[MaddyDecaf]

We have enough real fires around here, IMO. LOL

I agree! I wasn't attempting to start one which wasn't already burning ... just keeping the dialogue going.

 

[Taximom]

I know, MaddyDecaf! lol

 

[MaddyDecaf]

I know, MaddyDecaf! lol

........ :HappyBday

 

[MaddyDecaf]

Problem is, all mail is taken to a Processing and Distribution Center. That letter may have been mailed far from Cincinnati but directed there. For instance, when I mail a letter here locally at my Post Office it goes to another City for sorting which is no where near where I live and the postmark reflects that City not mine.

If you want to discuss far-fetched theories (which I believe this is -- the entire 'anonymous letter' conversation) ... there are re-mailing services available whereby someone mails a letter to a re-mailing service and that service mails it from that (their) city.

Not just "IMO" -- but logically, common sensibly:

This letter is not a lead.
It's just bullshyte, written/sent by someone without a life of notoriety and who thought this would get them some notoriety; albeit, anonymously. This person is probably chugging down beers and having a grand old time this weekend because ........... we're actually discussing that letter.

as always,
imo, imo, imo

 

[MaddyDecaf]

dupe post ... server problems here, obviously... deleted dupe post.

 

[Littledeer]

First, if it's TaxiMom's birthday:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAAAAAAAAPY BIRTHDAY DEAR TAXI
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU

OK, enough of O/T.

Maddy, you bring up some really excellent points and I enjoy reading your posts. Keep them coming!

I also don't beleive that DP had anything to do with either mailing of the letters.

Do I beleive he had something to do with Kathleen's death and the disappearance of Stacy? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

The problem here is that there is not enough "concrete" evidence to indict him on either one. More circumstantial evidence than anything. LE and the Prosecutor in no way want to arrest DP and try this case with out more "concrete" evidence. Brodsky, as stupid as he is, has enough to bring forward to a jury of "reasonable doubt" with all the media statements, and unfortunately, even from Stacy's own family.

I have lots more to say, but I'll quit for now.

All of the above, is IMHO only.

 

[Taximom]

I wasn't exactly sure what that meant...but my birthday is on 9/11! I went to check the birthday list on WS's front page just to make sure I wasn't listed. LOL Please, at my age I only want one birthday per year! LOL

Thanks anyway, Littledeer and Maddy.

 

[Littledeer]

Taxi:

Ok, then I'll unhappy birthday you so now your a year younger! LOL

 

[Taximom]

:woohoo: I'm feeling younger already.


Soooo, has JoelB been on NG after that 1st appearance with her? I know she's been covering other cases, but I haven't seen all of her shows since then.

 

[Leila]

I watched Nancy Grace tonight, and she devoted the entire hour to the pregnant Marine, who's body was found today, burned and buried inthe backyard of the suspect's house.

But in the promo for Nancy Grace's show, they've included her confrontation with JB.

 

[mysteriew]

I also don't beleive that DP had anything to do with either mailing of the letters.

Do I beleive he had something to do with Kathleen's death and the disappearance of Stacy? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

The problem here is that there is not enough "concrete" evidence to indict him on either one. More circumstantial evidence than anything. LE and the Prosecutor in no way want to arrest DP and try this case with out more "concrete" evidence. Brodsky, as stupid as he is, has enough to bring forward to a jury of "reasonable doubt" with all the media statements, and unfortunately, even from Stacy's own family.

I have lots more to say, but I'll quit for now.

All of the above, is IMHO only.

We keep thinking no evidence, but really we don't know how much evidence there is. LE isn't talking. They aren't saying if they found blood or signs of a struggle or cleanup in the bedroom or if TM actually saw Stacy's body- but something led them to say the case was a homicide. We don't know if they found a possible weapon with bloody fingerprints on it- but we do know they felt they had enough evidence to publically name DrewP a suspect- something they don't do unless they feel they have evidence. We don't know if they have a witness who heard or saw something. Whatever they have found though, they evidently felt was strong enough to take to a GJ, even without a body. Something else they don't do without evidence.

So I don't know what evidence they have or don't have. But I feel pretty strongly that they do have evidence.

As far as the letter, the timing on it strikes me as a bit strange and makes me think of someone else who might have a motive for the letter. DrewP and JAB both made frequent complaints about the media while they were all covering it every day. But that has stopped. And DrewP has quit granting interviews. Very little is coming out in the media now.

Yet JAB shows up on NG and a letter shows up at DrewP's home right after the Christmas holidays. Who took the letter to the media instead of LE? Who's name gets the publicity? Why was it that we thought that JAB took the case in the first place?

JMO

 

[Pharlap]

If you want to discuss far-fetched theories (which I believe this is -- the entire 'anonymous letter' conversation) ... there are re-mailing services available whereby someone mails a letter to a re-mailing service and that service mails it from that (their) city.

Not just "IMO" -- but logically, common sensibly:

This letter is not a lead.
It's just bullshyte, written/sent by someone without a life of notoriety and who thought this would get them some notoriety; albeit, anonymously. This person is probably :laugh:chugging down beers and having a grand old time this weekend because ..........:laugh:. we're actually discussing that letter.

as always,
imo, imo, imo

you go girl